Is there anyway to make nano rechargers? I know how to the the stim and the emergency treatment kits, but I can't find a way to do the nano rechargers.
If it is not in the game - then please please pleasde add it!
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Is there anyway to make nano rechargers? I know how to the the stim and the emergency treatment kits, but I can't find a way to do the nano rechargers.
If it is not in the game - then please please pleasde add it!
Been complaining about this for a while, no there is not a way. And if they do find a way NT's better be the only class able to make them, or make them cheaply.
They can't make like that, because NTs don't have any skills that are higher or skills that are otherwise ignored by other professions.
Make it reliant on Nano Init, Matter Creation, and Nano Programming.
wait ... that would mean MPs would STILL be better at it. Damn.
NTs and Docs should be able to make them :pQuote:
Originally posted by Rotamus
Been complaining about this for a while, no there is not a way. And if they do find a way NT's better be the only class able to make them, or make them cheaply.
Docs use just as many chargers, if not more..
NT's need help but not from giving them more tradeskills to make. Engineers and Traders are more suited in theme and skills for most tradeskills. Possibly Doctors as well because nano rechargers use treatment skill.
NTs are supposed to be the masters of nano damage, not nano everything. Personally, NTs being suited for implant creation tradeskill smells su****iously like a fluke. The process is more Insert Cluster A into Slot B than it is anything else.
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Originally posted by Krneki
They can't make like that, because NTs don't have any skills that are higher or skills that are otherwise ignored by other professions.
Actualy NTs have one thing. Sadly, one One thing - that that no other profession gets. A program that recharges nanos.
So, in that line, one would think that NT would have some way to divert that recharge into an item. Thier by makeing a "recharger".
Base it off of Matter Met, Mater Creation, Time&space.
Or just make it where once its all said and done. - HE has to be run on the "item" to finish it, and turn in into a nano - recharger Higher lvl HEs turn the item into a Higher QL recharger.
The NTs would likey need someone to do that actual "work" of putting the fram and such togeather, but the actual recharge would be done by an NT. (w/ HE or some item depended apons high lvls of Time/space, Matter Met. and Matter C. )
I figure the HE would be the key. but it might be to much codeing to allow it to target and run on an item.
jazger.
Must disagree a bit. Our profession is called - Nano Technician. not - Nano nuker. While nukeing and dmg dealing is part of our profession. By our very name we are defined as *technicians*.Quote:
Originally posted by Kuroshio
NT's need help but not from giving them more tradeskills to make. Engineers and Traders are more suited in theme and skills for most tradeskills. Possibly Doctors as well because nano rechargers use treatment skill.
NTs are supposed to be the masters of nano damage, not nano everything. Personally, NTs being suited for implant creation tradeskill smells su****iously like a fluke. The process is more Insert Cluster A into Slot B than it is anything else.
And as a technician, one does more then blow stuff up. One repairs, one fixes. By our name, one would believe that We are the "programers" The ones who while unable to use most profession spefic items. Does the codeing for said nanos.
the nano Tech, is the one to code the program, edit out the bugs and such.
By the discribtion, Nano tech, have a greater understsanding of Nano programs. We've learned/understand them so well, we can do things that look like "magic".
As such, when it comes to Nanos - the little itty bitty machines, We shoul dhave the leading edge. Our whole lives have been dedicated to the understanding and ultization of nanos.
now becuase of the violent nature of RK, NTs have devoted a lot of time to create dmg dealing nanos. Because it's what we know best. Nanos. Sure high lvl Nts use guns. But most low lvl folks are dieing for IP if they use anthing but Nano programs.
Dang shame thiers no Technical side of my chosen profession.
Jazger
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Steppenrazor 39 NT omni RK1
Fraid actually, you're mistakenQuote:
Originally posted by Jazger
Must disagree a bit. Our profession is called - Nano Technician. not - Nano nuker. While nukeing and dmg dealing is part of our profession. By our very name we are defined as *technicians*.
And as a technician, one does more then blow stuff up. One repairs, one fixes. By our name, one would believe that We are the "programers" The ones who while unable to use most profession spefic items. Does the codeing for said nanos.
the nano Tech, is the one to code the program, edit out the bugs and such.
By the discribtion, Nano tech, have a greater understsanding of Nano programs. We've learned/understand them so well, we can do things that look like "magic".
As such, when it comes to Nanos - the little itty bitty machines, We shoul dhave the leading edge. Our whole lives have been dedicated to the understanding and ultization of nanos.
now becuase of the violent nature of RK, NTs have devoted a lot of time to create dmg dealing nanos. Because it's what we know best. Nanos. Sure high lvl Nts use guns. But most low lvl folks are dieing for IP if they use anthing but Nano programs.
Dang shame thiers no Technical side of my chosen profession.
Jazger
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Steppenrazor 39 NT omni RK1
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"The power to turn something into a smoldering pile of ashes is a great power indeed. It's even better when that power is at the tips of your fingertips. Add to that a ranged weapon of choice, and you'll soon familiarise people with the functions of the reclaim terminal. Either that or sending people running like crazy to escape your wrath. All this and more is the destiny of the Nano-Technician. Our nano programs are able to cover the full range of damage types; from chemical to melee, cold to fire. We will always find a way to damage to our prey, no matter their armor or level of skill. Some people say mind over matter. Well I say mind creates matter. As well as hurling any conceivable type of damage towards an opponent, as a Nano-Technician you will be able blind, root an opponent on the spot, and even prevent them from attacking. By executing programs on youself, your ability in the uses of nano technology will be increased. Matter creates, matter destroys and it is at our disposal as a Nano-Technician."
I can deal with having to find an NT to program nanocrystals. But nanorechargers is too far afield. And I really think they should have nothing to do with implants at all. I'd never trust a C++ programmer to create an artifical heart for me :DQuote:
The Nano-Technician is a highly specialised profession focused on one thing; dealing the most amount of damage to the target in the shortest amount of time. He is all about nano programs, always holding a large variety of damaging nanos in his arsenal. The Nano-Technician also has access to extra programs that enhance the effectiveness of his attacks to a fine and deadly art.
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Originally posted by Kuroshio
I can deal with having to find an NT to program nanocrystals. But nanorechargers is too far afield. And I really think they should have nothing to do with implants at all. I'd never trust a C++ programmer to create an artifical heart for me :D
Good point. but Who do you think wrote the program that lets that hart WORK? It's not just pumps and weels. thier is codeing, that had to be programed, to allow that hart to know it should go
Beat pause Beat pause. ect. insted of Beat, Beat, Beat, pause, pasue, pasue, Beat, pasue. pasue.
someone built the hardware - But the programer was still needed to write the codeing to make it work.
it would be the same w/ rechargers, Other folks can create the hardware
But how are they going to force feed the nano juice into it? the NTs have learn how to pull energy out of thin air. The Nt s in a way a walking Nano recharger. (how ever slow it)
What is a trader going to do? an Eng? A Doc?
They have no reasonalbe way to justifi putting the nanos it the charger. The NT does. They can built the frame, they can create the hardware - But thier going to have to take it to a Nano Tech, to get the NT to tell the nanos - Go here, wait, till needed.
jazger
Heh, I think you're overcomplicating it. For example, an artificial heart is just pumps and valves. A pacemaker is little more than a microchip with very simplistic routines (ie: no beat = shock heart) ;). Tradeskill Stims that do restore nanopoints have nothing to do with nanoprogramming whatsoever. There's no programming what basically boils down to a complicated gas tank to me :DQuote:
Originally posted by Jazger
Good point. but Who do you think wrote the program that lets that hart WORK? It's not just pumps and weels. thier is codeing, that had to be programed, to allow that hart to know it should go
Beat pause Beat pause. ect. insted of Beat, Beat, Beat, pause, pasue, pasue, Beat, pasue. pasue.
someone built the hardware - But the programer was still needed to write the codeing to make it work.
it would be the same w/ rechargers, Other folks can create the hardware
But how are they going to force feed the nano juice into it? the NTs have learn how to pull energy out of thin air. The Nt s in a way a walking Nano recharger. (how ever slow it)
What is a trader going to do? an Eng? A Doc?
They have no reasonalbe way to justifi putting the nanos it the charger. The NT does. They can built the frame, they can create the hardware - But thier going to have to take it to a Nano Tech, to get the NT to tell the nanos - Go here, wait, till needed.
jazger
Every wrote a program for a pacemaker before? It's much more complicated than you describe. Older models weren't that effective. Newer ones are programmed so that the algorithms can be tweaked to match the person they are put into instead of having to re-code it for every person. They even have small magnetic storage on them. Unfortunately that means if you have a pacemaker and walk through a metal detector, your pacemaker's storage will be erased, meaning the program that runs it will be gone and the pacemaker will cease to function.Quote:
Originally posted by Kuroshio
Heh, I think you're overcomplicating it. For example, an artificial heart is just pumps and valves. A pacemaker is little more than a microchip with very simplistic routines (ie: no beat = shock heart) ;). Tradeskill Stims that do restore nanopoints have nothing to do with nanoprogramming whatsoever. There's no programming what basically boils down to a complicated gas tank to me :D