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Thread: Guide to 300 Symbs(Trox version)

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    Guide to 300 Symbs(Trox version)

    Well since I've been getting tonnes of requests for my equipment guide on 300 symbs I will post them here.

    This is for Trox since I play trox and I don't care bout anything non Trox :P

    Psychic 300 Psychic

    Sense 300 Sense

    Intelligence 300 Int

    300 Ear 300 Ear

    Have to be done in order that I have posted or Purple -> Green -> Blue

    All these equipments can be changed to be suited to whatever item you have/don't have.

    Using the exact equipment with the exception of the 300 Brain equip will land you over the requirements for abilities based on my own experience.

    Buffs you want to take note off

    Psychic/Intelligence : 20(NS) 12(Gen) 9(300 City) 2(Extruder) 3(ICRt) 20?(Contracts)

    Sense : 15(ES) 12(Gen) 9(300 City) 2(Extruder) 20?(Contracts)

    Treatment : 200(Clinic SFA Expertise) 33 (Contracts) 15(275 Tower) 60(TiTs)

    A website to take note of for trickle down. Do not underestimate trickle down : Do not UNDERESTIMATE TRICKLE DOWN HAXX

    And that's it . All the best to fellow Atrox twinkers.



    For Info : 300 Brain 300 Brain Needs 275 Treatment Tower. -> Corrected by 2 other Atrox twinkers : Requires exploit / lucky enough to get +10 and +11 Miy's Nano sleeve.
    Last edited by Noirhybrid; Jun 17th, 2008 at 08:17:44.
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    [QUOTE=Sense : 15(FG)[QUOTE]

    It's (ES)Enhanced Sense I suppose. Not (FG)

    Btw, Good post

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    lol indeed. Corrected. Thank you
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    I will add this one to the 300 symbs link in the sticky thread.
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    Hehe nice guide

    You can also just change color when you edit post in advanced.
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    lol okay. Looks fun :P Coloring time!
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    Very nice, first time I see a troxy with 300 brain on o.O
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    I especially like the tits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lupusceleri View Post
    Very nice, first time I see a troxy with 300 brain on o.O
    I didn't get the brain in. I was like 7 points short in intelligence and a bit of treatment when I twinked. I did not have 2x 300 RoC + I was too lazy to put up a 275 treatment tower. So it's perfectly doable
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    no it is not doable
    I did twink with contracts and tower and didnt put it in ( my 2 ring was two +24 and i was short of 6 pts intel)
    about your set up , for an enfo 2he withoup spending ip you cant equip this 2 sword of dusk ( laking of MM) spending ip in something we dont need isnot the goal

    the solution is to find 2 highter sleeves but i am not sure there is so hight one IG (mine was a +9 and a +10 and i think you need 2 +11)
    Last edited by Rugbymen; Jun 15th, 2008 at 19:56:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lupusceleri View Post
    Very nice, first time I see a troxy with 300 brain on o.O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugbymen View Post
    no it is not doable
    I did twink with contracts and tower and didnt put it in ( my 2 ring was two +24 and i was short of 6 pts intel)
    about your set up , for an enfo 2he withoup spending ip you cant equip this 2 sword of dusk ( laking of MM) spending ip in something we dont need isnot the goal

    the solution is to find 2 highter sleeves but i am not sure there is so hight one IG (mine was a +9 and a +10 and i think you need 2 +11)
    If ur 2 rings was +24 then 2x 300 ROC would add another 2 which means you would be 4 off. Dual sword of dusk would give that 4 don't you think ? Were you using em ?

    I still got like 800k IP left on Noir unused . lol

    Lemme do the Math again.
    Last edited by Noirhybrid; Jun 16th, 2008 at 07:36:18.
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    First Atrox Enforcer on Atlantean to put in Ql300 Symbs and 290 Brain symbiant.

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    Atrox base Intelligence : 600

    Equipment : 614

    Buffs : 20 + 12 + 2 + 3 + 20=/-1 +9 = 65/66

    Total Intelligence : 1280/1279.

    Treatment : 536

    Buffs : 200 + 60 + 33 + 15 = 308

    Trickle down : 122

    Atrox base Treatment : 1137(With trickle from maxed research according to Shimka and from what I seen)

    Total Treatment : 2103.

    Did you get something similar to this Rugby ? Need another trox Enf who has nearly everything in game to try this out. I'd retwink again if I wasn't leaving in July.

    Lets say if you were STILL short of Treatment . The setup is not using Implant in Legs/Waist. They can add quite a load of trickle since waist doesn't have Sense and leg does not have Agility.
    Last edited by Noirhybrid; Jun 16th, 2008 at 09:11:14.
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    First Atrox Enforcer on Atlantean to put in Ql300 Symbs and 290 Brain symbiant.

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    i did the math, and i got it to be doable aswell. I am gonna have a reset soon and see if i can do it rygby i promise you will be the first to know if i get it done.

    1 thing Noir. The Contracts add 20? thought it was 19...cant check it now, at work, but plz have a look Else you know i like your setup
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    Hmm yea Intelligence is 19. Psychic is the one that's 20.
    Last edited by Noirhybrid; Jun 16th, 2008 at 09:10:40.
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    Husband IG to Rachael ''Zorinthia'' Orion.

    First Atrox Enforcer on Atlantean to put in Ql300 Symbs and 290 Brain symbiant.

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    i hope someone will succed so i will do it

    http://auno.org/ao/equip.php?saveid=102259

    the set up i used + all buffs , contract 250 and tower 275

    i think in your buff calc your forget +1 for le calm from crat

    and are you sure you didnt put the abilities 2 time in your tickrate calc ?
    (i am at work atm i cant check exactly your calc) but people make this misstake often

    for the ip about MM , well i dont have so much i dont use ( may be because i use super nova for as or because i didnt reset nano pool )

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    base treatment on a trox enfo with anything else than abilities and treatment maxed ( no city bonus or stuff , anything ) has got 1103 on treatment , i think you are wrong here

    and 1114 with just research finished (LE70)
    Last edited by Rugbymen; Jun 16th, 2008 at 19:06:50.

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    1103 is correct. Using this setup [*updated setup after LoX works](most is the same but some more trickledown from imps) I came up with

    Intelligence
    • 600 base + IP
    • 110 perks
    • 9 HQ
    • 2 Extruder
    • 80 Research
    • 19 Contract Ql 250
    • 12 boost
    • 20 nt buff
    • 3 improved cut red tape
    • 421 equip
    => 1276 Intelligence

    Agility
    • 780 base +IP
    • 70 perks
    • 9 HQ
    • 2 Extruder
    • 19 Contract Ql 250
    • 12 boost
    • 25 agent buff
    • 243 equip
    => 1160 Agility

    Sense
    • 600 base +IP
    • 70 perks
    • 9 HQ
    • 2 Extruder
    • 20 Research
    • 22 QL250 Contract
    • 12 boost
    • 15 Agent buff
    • 243 equip
    => 993 Sense

    Treatment
    • 939 base +IP (maxxed Ablities and Treatment, Ability Trickledown deducted)
    • 164 Perks
    • 100 clinic
    • 13 QL 275 Tower
    • 33 QL250 contract
    • 20 Expertise
    • 80 superior first aid
    • 60 treatment transfer
    • 296 trickle down (0.5*1276+0.3*1160+0.2* 993)/4
    • 380 equip
    => 2085 Treatment


    Except for all the the contracts and tower (just had 250 tower, 175 int and 220 treat contract at the time) and some implants I didn't have as QL300's but only ~290's at the time that's what I checked back when I was twinking my symbs and it did exactly fit this math.

    So you would come up with 3 darn points of Treatment short... What's not maxxed in this setup:
    • +0.225 treat: Agility feet instead of symb


    so... afaik still not possible (not speaking of needing 4 QL250 contracts for this setup^^)
    Last edited by Darion; May 14th, 2009 at 04:21:43.
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    I retract my previous statement on the trickle. I checked it quite a few times and found the flaw. Trickle from Enhanced DNA + ASG10 was counted twice indeed. Thank you Rugby. Looks like the brain can only be done by anyone who got lucky enough to acquire 2x Ql 286-300 Miy's Nano Sleeve or exploited it . Updated the equip to any lucky enough.

    Playing around with Darion's Equip allows you to take off Jathos' boots for Augmented Biomech which will cover the lost in Treatment , then using 2 higher Miy's Sleeve to cover the 3 loss in intelligence.
    Last edited by Noirhybrid; Jun 17th, 2008 at 08:13:45.
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    First Atrox Enforcer on Atlantean to put in Ql300 Symbs and 290 Brain symbiant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darion View Post
    So you would come up with 7 Treatment short. What's not maxxed in this setup:
    • +0.25 treat: waist and leg imps - QL300 ones would give +1 agi/sense each for trickledown
    • +4 treat: Eye and rHand Imps instead of symbs would give +2 treatment each.
    • +0.225 treat: Agility feet instead of symb

    still darn 3 points short in treatment... and every of those symbs changed for imps makes it harder (impossible? didn't calc it, but wouldn't think) to equip the specific 300 symb after the brain.
    From here by using the 300 Brain instead of 300 Sense/Treatment Head implant would need to fall back on Shimka's setup when he did it Pre-DB bracer. So I guess its doable. Head symb has to be put in first. Which totally changes the order.
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    First Atrox Enforcer on Atlantean to put in Ql300 Symbs and 290 Brain symbiant.

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