AO Community: How would you regulate Multibox?

[paperjockey]

Lets regulate it by stop beating the horse.. Getting rid or regulating MB isnt going to bring back a thousand players and would probably kill alot of revenue. We are pretty lucky this game hasnt gone the way of SWG, Vanguard:SoH, and a number of mmo's which didnt even last 5 years. Much better things to focus dev time on than policing this crap. No one does tower wars except like 2 clan guilds and 1 or 2 OT and I highly doubt regulating MB would change any of that. Most people either duel in borealis or do BS. While poorly implemented, a instanced pvp domination type of encounter is much more in line with modern day mmo's and peoples time constraints.

[enfsatangirl]

Remove Towers and pvp then multiboxing will not be a problem.

Fc dont want to solve the problems that multiboxing are when it comes to pvp and Towers.


and paperjockey there would have been alot of players that would have comeback if they removed multibox garbage

[Saetos]

Remove Towers and pvp then multiboxing will not be a problem.

Fc dont want to solve the problems that multiboxing are when it comes to pvp and Towers.

Multiboxing won't be a problem, but then you wont' have a game at all, as there is no current PVM instance left that is at all challenging.

[Cratertina]

Multiboxing won't be a problem, but then you wont' have a game at all, as there is no current PVM instance left that is at all challenging.

Any instance is a very nice challange if you bring some newbez. Hohoho!

For veterans, DB3 is a challange mboxers cannot reliably do. Especially floor 2 and 4.

Maybe just introduce more of that in to the mix. So content is harder, or requires intelligent movement, that cannot be hotkeyed easily.

Offcorse towers are a snoozing borefast ideal for multiboxing. Especially small fights can be totaly dominated by Mbox.

[Veebz]

To restate what I've said before...

There is only ONE real fix for this: BAN automated tools (Like AOMH or any other tool that plays the game for you) from combat. BAN autoclickers, BAN key inputters, BAN action duplicators in COMBAT of ANY type (PVP OR PVE). Use petitions and HUMAN COMMON SENSE to weed out offenders and PUNISH them.

Do NOT ban multi-boxing accounts. 1 player should be allowed to play 6 accounts - as long as s/he does not let a program play the accounts for him/her!

FC, do the following:

Step 1) Make this your POLICY
Step 2) Change the EULA. It's 2015 - some companies update their licenses QUARTERLY. It's about time for AO's to get a refresh. No one is going to lose faith in you for teaching a very old dog a new trick.
Step 3) Plaster your decision all over the forums. Make sure people KNOW that BOTTING in COMBAT is BANNED, but dual logging (Multi-boxing) is allowed so long as BOTTING in COMBAT does NOT OCCUR.
Step 4) Encourage petitions on this issue. You WILL get some bad tips. But you'll also get some great ones.
Step 5) Cherry pick the highest profile, most obvious, most egregious violations of this policy - AND DOLE OUT SOME PUNISHMENT. 1 day bans, 7 day bans, perma bans. WHATEVER IT TAKES.
Step 6) Keep a body count and let us KNOW you are doing SOMETHING about this issue.
Step 7) Work toward developing a RAM scanner / automated tool that can DETECT botters WHILE they are cheating.

More than half of the cheaters will STOP cheating just because of an official prohibition. This will significantly lower the labor tax on FC alone! You can then focus on taking out the WORST offenders until cheaters begin to view botting as TOO risky to engage in. That's all!

[ByLogic]

Multiboxing = whine and cry Also i think is unfair that some have more gear than others..please fix, and 1 win button thx bye

[Raggy]

Multiboxing

1 win button thx bye

Got it in one.

[Badthing]

To restate what I've said before... There is only ONE real fix for this: BAN automated tools (Like AOMH or any other tool that plays the game for you) from combat. BAN autoclickers, BAN key inputters, BAN action duplicators in COMBAT of ANY type (PVP OR PVE). Use petitions and HUMAN COMMON SENSE to weed out offenders and PUNISH them. Do NOT ban multi-boxing accounts. 1 player should be allowed to play 6 accounts - as long as s/he does not let a program play the accounts for him/her! FC, do the following: Step 1) Make this your POLICY Step 2) Change the EULA. It's 2015 - some companies update their licenses QUARTERLY. It's about time for AO's to get a refresh. No one is going to lose faith in you for teaching a very old dog a new trick. Step 3) Plaster your decision all over the forums. Make sure people KNOW that BOTTING in COMBAT is BANNED, but dual logging (Multi-boxing) is allowed so long as BOTTING in COMBAT does NOT OCCUR. Step 4) Encourage petitions on this issue. You WILL get some bad tips. But you'll also get some great ones. Step 5) Cherry pick the highest profile, most obvious, most egregious violations of this policy - AND DOLE OUT SOME PUNISHMENT. 1 day bans, 7 day bans, perma bans. WHATEVER IT TAKES. Step 6) Keep a body count and let us KNOW you are doing SOMETHING about this issue. Step 7) Work toward developing a RAM scanner / automated tool that can DETECT botters WHILE they are cheating. More than half of the cheaters will STOP cheating just because of an official prohibition. This will significantly lower the labor tax on FC alone! You can then focus on taking out the WORST offenders until cheaters begin to view botting as TOO risky to engage in. That's all!

QFT wish this would be an official FC statement.

[Dollcet]

Keep a body count and let us KNOW you are doing SOMETHING about this issue.

This is something they should have been done in the past on various Cases of "Exploits " Item-Dupes " AOMH " Creative use of Features " ,and they should start doing it in the Future !
No Need to state Names but drop some raw Numbers so the Players know something is done . Good Way to warn potential Offenders , it has the added benefit that all others see that Funcom is actually doing something and People will be less likely to ragequit/ take a break .

[fakiiri]

Heh... appropriate actions should have been taken months ago. Bit too late now. Just give up and look for another mmorpg and do not look back. Best decision ever.

[Caloss2]

Heh... appropriate actions should have been taken months ago. Bit too late now. Just give up and look for another mmorpg and do not look back. Best decision ever.

Don't look back, but keep checking and posting on the forums about said game.

I love the irony

[Phatkeep]

He's giving ppl who quit over MB advice. Doesn't say much about his own decision, does he?

[haxi]

Simple question: Do MB accounts have a net benefit to the game, the bottom line, and the player base in general? Answer those questions and then make a decision with absolute disregard for what any former GD had to say about the matter.

[Tinypain]

Ah sorry, I forgot to mention that case. It will still be possible to pull the target data if a NPC being assisted. If this change does nothing but benefit cheaters, we do have alternate and additional options available...this is only the first stab.

Sounds like cheating to me..

[DarkerThanBlack]

Funny how when every other FC employee on this forum said MB is legit every hater was "well that's just their opinion" but when michi makes a vague reference that might or might not even include multiboxers suddenly it's the holy word. #doublestandards

[Alternity]

Because everything is set in stone rite

[Cratertina]

Lol, maybe we should have a bann counter
.. For every exploiter that gets banned.

[Esssch]

Funny how when every other FC employee on this forum said MB is legit every hater was "well that's just their opinion" but when michi makes a vague reference that might or might not even include multiboxers suddenly it's the holy word. #doublestandards

Funny how when an FC employee says multiboxing is okay it's the end-all-be-all answer and no way they possibly could have misinterpreted the circumstances, but when Michi calls multiboxers cheaters, suddenly it's "vague"

[Caloss2]

funny how when an fc employee says multiboxing is okay it's the end-all-be-all answer and no way they possibly could have misinterpreted the circumstances, but when michi calls multiboxers cheaters, suddenly it's "vague"

lol

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[Tsuniko]

ban it already, it can only go 2 ways:

1. AO dies because of lack of subs
2. AO gets better because people are motivated to do NW again

I would rather no. 1 than the slow death that we are heading to now.