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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Misat0 View Post
    Type %LOCALAPPDATA% in the Explorer address bar at the top and press enter, it will then change to that directory and show its path in the address bar.
    Once I found the App Data folder (I typed c:\%appdata%) I was able to follow your instructions in your post #3 above ... it took me awhile to make sure I was in fact following them correctly, but it seems to have worked for the first toon I tried.

    Only problem I had was that I could not find the dockarea stings you mentioned in the last bullet item. Was I supposed to open each dockarea until I found one with "friends" inside?

    Thank you again

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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick View Post
    *snip*

    Only problem I had was that I could not find the dockarea stings you mentioned in the last bullet item. Was I supposed to open each dockarea until I found one with "friends" inside?
    Yep, do that or try a file content search in the Explorer while in the DockAreas directory. Might be the faster approach if you got many files in there.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    Why this change?
    Because it is the correct way to store user configuration data on Windows 2000, XP, Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8. The old way was OK in the Windows 9X/ME era where the filesystem was FAT32 and there were no security permissions. On Windows Vista and above, where you are not running with full admin rights until the UAC prompt pops up not doing things the correct way causes things to not work.

    Anyhoo, thanks to the devs for finally fixing this.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Glarawyn View Post
    Because it is the correct way to store user configuration data on Windows 2000, XP, Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.

    ...

    On Windows Vista and above, where you are not running with full admin rights until the UAC prompt pops up not doing things the correct way causes things to not work.
    Makes sense for individual prefs, and I'm glad for the change in that respect, but the whole GUI? Not so much. Custom GUIs are manually installed. As are custom maps. UAC has nothing to do or say about dropping files into a folder.


    On a side note, can we can get the save password function back now?
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by MajorOutage View Post
    Custom GUIs are manually installed. As are custom maps. UAC has nothing to do or say about dropping files into a folder.

    On a side note, can we can get the save password function back now?
    That doesn't have anything to do with, well, anything in this case.

    The problem stems from the practice of installing software (especially games) which may need to write files in their installation folder to the "Program Files" folder, where only the system and administrator level OS users have write permission. When an app is running in "normal" mode (as in, non-installation/update), it should only be reading data installed there, but not write any of it, so it doesn't need write permissions to begin with, thus all is well. Unless it works like AO and also stores dynamic data in its own installation folder which it needs to write too, not just read, which it normally couldn't, unless it's permanently run with admin priviledges.

    Moving all dynamic data out of the installation folder and to the proper place (where there is full access for the OS user account "owning" that dolder) remedies this issue for users who simply install everything into "Program Files", but it indeed just creates more inconvenience to those who know it's not the best idea to install games there to begin with.

    And storing the password also doesn't have anything to do with this. Since, by default, any and all OS user accounts (and processes running under them) have read perissions to almost everything (except the protected data folders of other OS users present on the system), malware that was designed to acquire the content of a certain file can still do it.

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  6. #26
    Grrr stay of my c: drive i try to avoid placing stuff there as much as possible.
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweede View Post
    Grrr stay of my c: drive i try to avoid placing stuff there as much as possible.
    Well, just change your system variables to point elsewhere
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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Vhab View Post
    The next build for TL has a convenient button in the Launcher's options to find the folder.
    I don't see any, i'm i blind or was this forgotten?
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  9. #29
    Go to settings in login-handler. (Where you set your video device etc.)
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  10. #30
    Ah ok, 3 settings.
    Got it, thanks!
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  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweede View Post
    Grrr stay of my c: drive i try to avoid placing stuff there as much as possible.
    Heh... Was my exact thought as well... :-)
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  12. #32
    Any easy way besides logging in to tell which folder goes to which character?
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  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Sweede View Post
    Grrr stay of my c: drive i try to avoid placing stuff there as much as possible.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    Heh... Was my exact thought as well... :-)


    Assuming you have an ssd your users folder shouldnt be on your ssd/C drive anyway as that can get huge and is written to a lot.

  14. #34
    This change is pretty laughable. The whole "appdata" folder thing annoys me (for all apps, not specifically AO)

    Every app should just throw itself neatly into one folder. Thanks.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkstaah View Post
    This change is pretty laughable. The whole "appdata" folder thing annoys me (for all apps, not specifically AO)

    Every app should just throw itself neatly into one folder. Thanks.

    This... Exactly this.... times 10^100
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  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by adeptall View Post
    Assuming you have an ssd your users folder shouldnt be on your ssd/C drive anyway as that can get huge and is written to a lot.
    That would only be an issue if I had a too small SSD.... A decently sized (for the purpose) SSD will have absolutely no issue with a "lot" of writes... It's not like it will be serving a huge web server database 24/7/365 or something like that
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  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkstaah View Post
    Every app should just throw itself neatly into one folder. Thanks.
    terrible idea for multi-user environments.
    get over windows98 and join the rest of us in the current millenia.

    truly windows has failed to make proper equivalent of /home where all user settings reside, but appdata is the best change for ages.
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  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkstaah View Post
    This change is pretty laughable. The whole "appdata" folder thing annoys me (for all apps, not specifically AO)

    Every app should just throw itself neatly into one folder. Thanks.
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  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Otansaanpas View Post
    terrible idea for multi-user environments.
    get over windows98 and join the rest of us in the current millenia.

    truly windows has failed to make proper equivalent of /home where all user settings reside, but appdata is the best change for ages.
    My PC is not a multi-user environment... An option to install for single or multi-user environment would be neat though.

    Single user: Everything neat and tidy in a single folder, located according to the users choice
    Multi-user: %appdata% + whatever...
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  20. #40
    Man... do none of you people use ANY other programs than AO? Quite amazing that this game has a collection of people who uses mainly Windows XP and earlier, as well as never play other games newer than AO as well as never using a single program of any kind newer than AO. Amazing.
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