Max possible tradeskills

[muha]

I found myself bored in a place where I had only web access, but no game access, so I started working on calculating the absolutely maximum possible for each tradeskill. The items are based on the tradeskill items thread. All the rest is my personal experience.

Items I included include all symbs, imps, QL300 towers, ql250 Universal Advantages and any item I thought was remotely possible to equip. I didn't include items I thought were not even remotely possible, e.g. Mystery of Pisces.

Please only comment in an informational way - things I did wrong or forgot. As this is a guide/sticky thread I will remove all other posts.

The information below is for a 220 nanomage engi, but I also added maximum across breeds.

ME (50% agi 50% int):

Base:
ME 1099
Agi 664
Int 912

Setup:
ME 1631
Agi 330
Int 467

ME Buffs:
ME Mastery: +125
ME Expertise: +20
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Mechanical Engineering Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Mechanics: +33
Total: 438

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Agi Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Feline Grace +25
ql250 Universal Advantage - Muscular Elasticity +19
Total: 67

Grand Total:
ME 3188
Agi 1061 = 132 ME
Int 1444 = 180 ME

Final Max: 3500

Across breeds: Opifex. -172 int, +304 agi ==> Agi 1365 = 170 ME, Int 1272 = 159 ME. Max Across Breeds: 3517

EE (30% agi 20% sta 50% int):

Base:
EE 1099
Agi 664
Sta 748
Int 912

Setup:
EE 1498
Agi 330
Sta 272
Int 422

EE Buffs:
EE Mastery: +125
EE Expertise: +20
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Electrical Engineering Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Power: +33
Total: 438

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Agi Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Feline Grace +25
ql250 Universal Advantage - Muscular Elasticity +19
Total: 67


Stamina Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Essence of Behemoth +27
Iron Circle +20
ql250 Universal Advantage - Heart Pump Boost +19
Total: 83


Grand Total:
EE 3035
Agi 1061 = 79 EE
Sta 1103 = 55 EE
Int 1399 = 174 EE

Final Max: 3343 . Max Across Breeds: 3343

WS (50% str 50% int):

Base:
WS 1099
Str 664
Int 912

Setup:
WS 1568
Str 315
Int 453

WS Buffs:
WS Mastery: +125
WS Expertise: +20
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Weapon Smithing Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Mechanics: +33
Total: 438

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Str Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Essence of Behemoth +27
Prodigious Strength +40
ql250 Universal Advantage - Muscular Compactness +17
Total: 107

Grand Total:
WS 3105
Str 1086 = 135 WS
Int 1430 = 178 WS

Final Max: 3418 . Max Across Breeds: 3418

QFT (50% psy 50% int):

Base:
QFT 1099
Psy 912
Int 912

Setup:
QFT 1439
Psy 400
Int 467

QFT Buffs:
QFT Mastery: +125
QFT Expertise: +20
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Field Quantum Physics Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Power +33
Total: 438

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Psy Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
ql250 Universal Advantage - Harmony +22
Total: 65

Grand Total:
QFT 2976
Psy 1377 = 172 QFT
Int 1444 = 180 QFT

Final Max: 3328 . Max Across Breeds: 3328

Pharma (20% agi 80% int):

Base:
Pharma 939
Agi 664
Int 912

Setup:
Pharma 1325
Agi 295
Int 438

Pharma Buffs:
Pharma Mastery: +125
Pharma Expertise: +20
Philosopher's Stone: +62
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Pharma Tech Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Power +33
Total: 500

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Agi Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Feline Grace +25
ql250 Universal Advantage - Muscular Elasticity +19
Total: 67

Grand Total:
Pharma 2714
Agi 1026 = 51 Pharma
Int 1415 = 283 Pharma

Final Max: 3098 . Max Across Breeds: 3098

NP (100% int):

Base:
NP 1099
Int 912

Setup:
NP 1271
Int 469

NP Buffs:
NP Expertise: +20
Advanced Symbol Manipulation: +92
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Nano Programming Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Nano Manipulation: +33
Total: 345

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Grand Total:
NP 2715
Int 1446 = 361 NP

Final Max: 3076 . Max Across Breeds: 3076

CL (100% int):

Base:
CL 1099
Int 912

Setup:
CL 938
Int 424

CL Buffs:
CL Expertise: +20
Computer Literacy Tutoring Device: +50
Total: 70

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Grand Total:
CL 2107
Int 1401 = 350 CL

Final Max: 2457 . Max Across Breeds: 2457

Psych (50% sen 50% int):

Base:
Psych 939
Sen 780
Int 912

Setup:
Psych 880
Sen 319
Int 365

Psych Buffs:
Psych Expertise: +20
Authority Figure +50
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Psych Tech Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Espionage +33
Total: 363

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Sen Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Enhanced Senses +15
ql250 Universal Advantage - Concentration +22
Total: 60

Grand Total:
Psych 2182
Sen 1159 = 144 Psych
Int 1342 = 167 Psych

Final Max: 2493 . Max Across Breeds: 2493

Chem (50% sta 50% int):

Base:
Chem 1099
Sta 748
Int 912

Setup:
Chem 1325
Sta 290
Int 446

Chem Buffs:
Philosopher's Stone: +62
Chem Expertise: +20
Quantum Physics Laboratory: +160
Guardian Conductor of Focus: +50
Chemistry Tutoring Device: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Chemicals: +33
Total: 375

Int Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
Improved Cut Red Tape +3
ql250 Universal Advantage - Logic +19
Total: 65

Stamina Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Essence of Behemoth +27
Iron Circle +20
ql250 Universal Advantage - Heart Pump Boost +19
Total: 83


Grand Total:
Chem 2799
Sta 1121 = 140 Chem
Int 1423 = 177 Chem

Final Max: 3116 . Max Across Breeds: 3116

BE (40% agi 30% sen 30% psy):

Base:
BE 939
Agi 664
Sen 780
Psy 912

Setup:
BE 722
Agi 350
Sen 385
Psy 381

BE Buffs:
Karma Harvest: +130
Crowbar Subtlety: +32
BE Expertise: +20
X-11 Ejector Turret: +50
ql250 Universal Advantage - Access: +33
Total: 265

Agi Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Feline Grace +25
ql250 Universal Advantage - Muscular Elasticity +19
Total: 67

Sen Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Enhanced Senses +15
ql250 Universal Advantage - Concentration +22
Total: 60

Psy Buffs:
HQ +9
Extruder Nutrition Bar +2
Expertise +12
Neuronal Stimulator +20
ql250 Universal Advantage - Harmony +22
Total: 65

Grand Total:
BE 1926
Agi 1090 = 109 BE
Sen 1225 = 91 BE
Psy 1358 = 101 BE

Final Max: 2227

Across breeds: Opifex. -172 Psy, +304 agi, +156 sen ==> Agi 1394 = 139 BE, Sen 1381 = 103 BE, Psy 1186 = 88 BE. Max Across Breeds: 2256

To decide which breed has the best maximum, consider the max ability+racial genome.

Nanomage:
Int 912+48=960
Psy 912+48=960
Agi 664+24=688
Sta 748+24=772
Sen 780+24=804
Str 664+24=688

Solitus:
Int 780+34=814
Psy 780+34=814
Agi 780+34=814
Sta 780+34=814
Sen 780+34=814
Str 772+34=806

Opifex:
Int 764+24=788
Psy 748+24=772
Agi 944+48=992
Sta 680+24=704
Sen 912+48=960
Str 764+24=788

Atrox:
Int 600+25=625
Psy 600+25=625
Agi 780+25=805
Sta 912+49=961
Sen 600+25=625
Str 912+49=961

[rubera]

"Grand Gotal" other than that it looks like you have everything. But won't using a ql250+ brain/eye symb give more ME since you also have intelligence in it?

Edit: on second thought its probably about the same.

[muha]

"Grand Gotal" other than that it looks like you have everything. But won't using a ql250+ brain/eye symb give more ME since you also have intelligence in it?

Edit: on second thought its probably about the same.

You are right, a ql300 symb does better. I'm not aware of a way a nanomage engi can equip a ql300 brain symb (I know how to equip a 300 eye), but on the other hand, I also don't know how to find ql300 tradeskill ring. So just for the sake of the "best setup" I will use ql300 symbs when it is possible.

[muha]

Added Mystery of Pisces to the setup, as it gives some agility. I seriously doubt 1500 dimach is possible as engi, but who knows.

[Mostadio]

Mortar adds 120 ME and 50 int, as well.

[muha]

Mortar adds 120 ME and 50 int, as well.

Yes, and it's in the setup.

[Octopuss]

Muha, did you count engi dildo and various items to the base skill? Full arith?


You know, I have about 95% buffing stuff available and couldn't get past 2750. Let's say 2800. What you list is 400 more.

[Mostadio]

Yes, and it's in the setup.

Didn't notice that was a link, I haven't had my coffee yet.

[muha]

Muha, did you count engi dildo and various items to the base skill? Full arith?


You know, I have about 95% buffing stuff available and couldn't get past 2750. Let's say 2800. What you list is 400 more.

Click the "setup" link. It includes all items I am aware of. Of course I might have forgotten something. It also includes all perks.

[IHaveHugeNick]

If we want to talk about the MAX possible, neuts have this uber neck item droping from HI... Profiteer's Helper

[Octopuss]

Click the "setup" link. It includes all items I am aware of. Of course I might have forgotten something. It also includes all perks.

Oh yea. I see. ql300 symbs tho... Explains. And the ring... and one perkline I dont have (+100).


Damn, I still bet I am one of the few (max 5) engis on rk1 to have a LOT of tradeskills

[Mostadio]

I think you pretty much covered it. That'd be insane twinking

[rubera]

If we want to talk about the MAX possible, neuts have this uber neck item droping from HI... Profiteer's Helper

Yes but if we're just talking ME it evens out since neutrals can't use the chosen/faithful helper. (which adds 60ME). Unless you equip it and then pick a side ;p

Edit: nevermind it has a playshift req

[muha]

Yes but if we're just talking ME it evens out since neutrals can't use the chosen/faithful helper. (which adds 60ME). Unless you equip it and then pick a side ;p

That's a good point. Indeed when I do the setups for abilities for which the tier armor gives less than Profiteer's Helper, I will mention it.

[muha]

I added EE, and maximum across breeds for ME and EE. Will add the other next week if I have time.

[muha]

I added the WS setup

[Zengineer]

I have a sneaking su****ion that Muha is beta testing LE while doing perk resets, and that the devs are asking him what kind of tradeskill requirements would be appropriate for LE crafting.

Conspiracy theories ftw. I guess the real test is to see if this post stays or not.

[BlckKnight]

just a little remark the POM in you use in your setup for WS is at ql 1. It will do 5 @ ql 300. Why dont you use a First Creation of the Sagittarius which is 10 points of intel?

Also why are you using the Control Unit Chest Plate which doenst add WS. I recommend Dirty Bioplast Overall

Also for one of my fingers i would use Custom-Made Engineer Ring of Tinkering(dont know if this one is ingame though)

would come down to
with ring
WS:1428
INT:383
STR:235

w/o ring
WS: 1414
INT: 388
STR: 235

[Zengineer]

I've heard that the custom-made rings are given out by GMs at events. So they are ingame, but very rare. And you probably have to role-play a lot to get one. The rumor I'm basing this on is at
http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=163679

[muha]

just a little remark the POM in you use in your setup for WS is at ql 1. It will do 5 @ ql 300. Why dont you use a First Creation of the Sagittarius which is 10 points of intel?

Also why are you using the Control Unit Chest Plate which doenst add WS. I recommend Dirty Bioplast Overall

Also for one of my fingers i would use Custom-Made Engineer Ring of Tinkering(dont know if this one is ingame though)

would come down to
with ring
WS:1428
INT:383
STR:235

w/o ring
WS: 1414
INT: 388
STR: 235

Regarding the First Creation - you are right, I forgot it exists. I also just noticed I used ql1 PoM, which makes the difference even bigger.
You are also right about the Chest Plate.
As for the Custom ring, I don't consider items that are GM spawned "in game". If I did, a GM can also spawn you a stat buffer or buff you ToM.
Anyway, thanks for the input, and I updated the EE and WS setups.