Idiots are just like slinkies. It makes you smile when you push them down a flight of stairs.
[Zacyx]: i will perma bann u from MR
It won't be made any more plausible if the focus is shifted up to TL7. Yet again. There is already plenty of that around. If anything we should be going in the opposite direction to balance things out.
:E
I know this may not be popular, but in the last 5 times we've done Inf key bosses we've not needed an MP AT ALL. The nukes aren't as bad as people are making out and are EASILY outhealed... Infact, i'd be hard pushed to think of ANY boss at endgame where NSD is actually 'needed' in any form whatsoever....
Just thought i'd throw that out there...
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Idiots are just like slinkies. It makes you smile when you push them down a flight of stairs.
[Zacyx]: i will perma bann u from MR
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To devs: You failed redesigning MPs as NTs with pets. I want my debuffer back.
Dreamer: Basically - I wish THIS much effort was put in to ALL profs rebalance docs.
Kintaii: Genele is more hardcore than you, your guildmates, and anyone else you've ever played with
Anarrina: Trust me, I'm not that scary in real life.
Note that you're wrong, we've done many raids for Sanct keys in Org and still didn't need NSD :/
From my perspective of my MP being my first 220, i'd truly like to have a reason to play her rather than her just taking up an account slot for posterity. I'm just not convinced NSD is that important to be worrying over except in a pvp sense /shrug
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Crataiken 220/30/70 General - Primal Evolution - 3rd AI 30 'Crat on RK 1 Setup
Calms 220/30/70 General - Primal Evolution
Medicaiken 220/30/70 General - Primal Evolution Setup
Newen 220/30/70 President - The Galactic Milieu
Mettagirl 220/20/** General - Primal Evolution
Krataiken 150/18/40 General - Primal Evolution Setup
the OP does not make any sense. PVM is stupidly easy in this game for paid players even a significant nerf wont change that much. Also... any mob worth NSDing has NSD resist already. The argument is weak
ps: i dont hate MPs neither hate NSD. just wanted to point out a fallacy because that is what a nice guy i am
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Traderbr - 180/0/0 Trader Nanomage - / Kaoru - 60/0/0 Meta-Physicist Nanomage - totw semitwink
Proud veteran of Spartans
To devs: You failed redesigning MPs as NTs with pets. I want my debuffer back.
Dreamer: Basically - I wish THIS much effort was put in to ALL profs rebalance docs.
Kintaii: Genele is more hardcore than you, your guildmates, and anyone else you've ever played with
Anarrina: Trust me, I'm not that scary in real life.
PVE change, part of PVE rebalance.
Just to be clear I am going to post this in bold so I hope people pay attention.
PVP changes will be taking place LAST, any changes you see now are primarily focused on PVE. Stop blaming PVPers the minute something changes because it is rarely the case that toolset changes occur for the benefit of PVP.
I mean, seriously, are there even any threads asking for massive nerfs or changes to NSD for PVP? It's like people just want to blame others because of their own prejudices rather than thinking things through. If FC was going to make changes that PVPers have been begging and crying for in the past several years it would be nerfs to LE nukes, rage, mongo rage, AS pistol, blockers, doctor healing, DoF, snares, roots, stuns, etc etc etc etc etc...not NSD...
Last edited by Gatester; Jun 27th, 2013 at 00:02:46.
NSD have not in years been a "powerful" debuff in PvP. My MP is fully nanoskill based and i land it on ocations on a doc or 3, and agent's. And it never kills em. my pets is usually rooted or calmed somewhere, or just plain stuck so i "try" kill em with my Shield of Zset
I stopped playing my MP, even if i played her since 2002. MP has been gimped to oblivion since FC decided to use nerfstick on our SL pets. and from there, even with shield, bow and SS effords FC still failed to ungimp us.
All of the sudden they do the oposite that we would like them to do with our NSD. make it more useful in pvp and pvm. A trader's drains lands like....all the time. NSD (regular one) lands 3 out of 10 times on a caster prof. (not counting NT's here)
as for PvM.....well. Give us a green weaponskill with the obvious 120+ buff that all other profs have. I dont care if that is 1hb, 2hb, pistol or bow. This is the main problem with MP. U are free to nerf NSD to oblivion then, FC. We have no selected weaponline at all that will get our AR high. All weapons we choose is now semi-medicore in AR. Our pets is still a joke. bad pathing, etc. yes we can survive, but we use ages compaired to others to kill a 250 dyna. (that is compaired to docs as well)
PS, I take it FC will give us 2hb users (now that u plan on changing our primary weapon to 1hb from 2hb) a free IPR, and posibility to IPR without remolving Alpha's? since u kinda changed our "main" weaponline countless of times since i started playing.
/Sovieta
Last edited by Vickie; Jun 27th, 2013 at 09:20:53.
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If you STILL need NSD to do endgame stuff in SL at this point in AO .... well, this nerf is the least of your worries.
This is simply a consequence of game changes over many patches instead of one big one for every class all at once. Frankly NSD is a ridiculous tool anyways. Complaining about its nerf is rather shortsighted.
Last edited by Obtena; Jul 7th, 2013 at 22:14:59.
Awwww muffin, need a tissue?
NSD is ridiculous, no matter what the TL. For some profs, it's akin to taking away their weapon or buffs.
Last edited by Obtena; Jul 8th, 2013 at 21:42:09.
Awwww muffin, need a tissue?
Because all of the people in that range are either alts of tl7's that wouldn't bother, wearing medsuits/xp pistols and missing most of their nano toolset, or simply not interested in doing it because they're too busy trying to farm money in RK missions for implants and upgrades (with inferno key being the least of their problems).
I know that's not where you were going with it but feeling a little jaded atm
I'm not sure what you mean by this unless you're referring to PvP. I think the concern is that NSD is being removed and affecting PvM.
Anyway...
About the inferno key.. if someone is 220 and doesn't already have the inferno key, I'm not sure why they're even bothering with it (unless for the treatment buff?). The most useful time to have an inferno key is 160-200 when you can't use the Xan hub to get to the mission area via the pande portal. I therefore agree with whoever stated that the NSD change is an un-needed nerf. If they are going to make this change then it should happen at the same time that mob invulnerability to NSD is adjusted.
Last edited by Traderjill; Jul 9th, 2013 at 00:33:31.