I don't completely agree on froob version being a teaser. It is an entirely different experience compared to full expansions. Not having the expansions stuff makes the game much less linear and cookie cutter(excluding the stupid CoH weapons).
There is a reason why some stay froob and do stuff as froobs. Don't screw up the froob experience.
I started a froob it is great fun, i even have froobs that i still lvl when i am bored. They generate a lot of revenue for fc too ads and all. it is a challenge you gotta fight hard and long not sit down at kite hill and /afk dinner.
Completely possible does not equal "yes they do generate revenue". I have su****ions regarding the depths of greed pursued by FC management, but even so I doubt they want to charge two of their largest supporters for ad space. FC has a history of supporting game organizations and fan sites with free advertising.
Nope. Actually they pay nothing. By having both Gridstream activly doign radio andparties, and AO-universe having infomration, its better for Funcom to advertise them. Noone gets a red cent out of those deals.
Personally, when the Fr00bs started, I saw commercials for mt dew and other products. That would be paid advertisment (money to Funcom) from said companies. Now I dont se that so the excuse of "well fr00bs bring in money" seems weak.
I could be wrong, but It sure looks that way. Moot point since many other games now have free trial accounts (some time limited, some free to play) so kicking the Fr00bs out doesnt make sense. Increaseing their content?..... Mmmmm dunno if I would spend much time on that per se, but as more expansions come out (if any) or new content for paid people, nothign wrong with spliffing froobs a little more of the older paid content that is outdated.
if you want something shiney and new, and are a fr00b, then stop being one, participte in sending money to help fund this game, and invest like the rest of the paid players. Otherwise, enjoy what ye got right now.
Metalynx: 216..... 4 more levels and the server will shut down!
Metalynx: "I seriously hope all the stupid people in the world don't congrigate in one spot, for all the weight of this massive amount of raw idiodicy, might collapse upon itself, creating a Singularity of Ignorant Stupidity, unmatched in strength by any black hole in the universe"
ive been froob for how many years, had my paic acc 9 months, bought things for item store, still have my 15 tl5+ froobs that i leveled pre-dailies, with a lot of team mishes/effort
Froobs shouldnt be getting screwed in the rebalance, despite what ANY paid player says, i am a paying player, and for my payments, i would like ALL aspects of my gaming to be fun, not "oh shi* cant do froob only raids any more.
Being a froob got me into being paid in the first place, so id say the £500 FC have made from "a froob" is paying my way.
Personally, id agree that froobs shouldnt get perks/sl content etc, but SHOULD stay as they are now.
if froobs get screwed in this rebalance, im leaving the game, taking my next £500 with me, probably the same situation with a lot of people. and go back to playing another game, which is free, and fun. (Wolf:ET!) that isnt a whine, qq or whatnot, its generally whats going to happen, im guessing the "active" froob population of ao is around 35%, Sloobs about 10% and the fully paid are 55%
say the game has 100,000 players (just a figure to explain with, but seems that way atm) 80% of the froobs quit, along with there paid accounts, taking population down to a mere 50,000 (LOTS of froobs have paid accounts also)
literally half the revenue fc had before, leading to death of the game.
i DONT want that, i want FC to pull there finger out, longer it takes for rebalance/engine, more and more money they are losing.
one of the many reasons WoW has such a huge playerbase is because updates are on time, and not "rebalance coming soon!" meaning in about 1-10 years time. hell, it could be any time.
id love for funcom to give us a date of rebalance, and actually take into consideration what people say, rather than the greed of the business, because without the players, there will be no business in the first place. and if theres no froobs, no new people are gunna try the game to produce revenue for the company, so if your reading this post FC, take it under advisement, i love playing this game, but from what i said, i speak for the majority of the froob community, and from the side of a Paid player after falling in love with the game.
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If the rebalance messes too much with PvP Froobs will either walk as above or stick to PvM only. And that'll make all the perked up paid content players so happy as they'll only be fighting other paying players. And as we all know from the Forums PvP is the only reason to play at all. Exploring, experimenting, and having fun is utterly pointless. /joke
Last edited by Cogline; Sep 29th, 2011 at 00:12:06. Reason: No, really, I am joking. Sarcastically I'll admit but I'm not trolling.
I'm a Froob Neutral Trade Skilling Nanomage Engineer- by definition I hide round corners and let the bot do the fighting.
I'm sure froobs have some sort of benefit for FC, or they would have closed down the froob program a long time ago.
However, I think a part of the froob problem can be seen in this sentence:
I think this might be one of the reasons paid players hold a grudge against froobs. Because people play for free years on end and never ever contributes. This guy and some others went paid, however im sure many froobs will never contribute to keeping this game running, in any other way than actually boosting the amount of people that are online.
The in game store might lead to some extra froobs paying for themselves by buying stuff, but I still think the majority of the froobs will stay away from the in game store.
PS: This is not ment as an attack on anyone. As FC choses to have a free option, people must be allowed to use it without beeing looked down on.
I've used the store to buy the odd thing such as the Death Rider and mail access for my account. Stuff like that is ideal Froob Food: it isn't game breaking, it doesn't step on paid players' toes, but it makes my gaming experience better. And before anyone jumps in I'll point out that ATM I can only play over a few days a month so upgrading my account isn't practical (for now). So as a froob I PvM with lesser gear and no perks, and see that as completely fair.
I'm a Froob Neutral Trade Skilling Nanomage Engineer- by definition I hide round corners and let the bot do the fighting.
Level 200 Nanomage Nano-Technician on Rimor speaking... - Unit Commander of Knights of Ka
Toons:(*=froobs)Zzzzzzwap* (inofficial main),~ Founder of TL5+ - Rimor TL5+ froob raid force ~ || ~ My Tweet... ~
Krisplin* (main, but buff whore),
Theophrastus* (piercing doc - aka froob shade)
Kosminski (Shade - Yes, i went paid...)
Codeleet (s10 & pvp)
Manicmouse AR SMGs - 220/30 Clan Solitus Soldier - General of New Order
Lawmaker Pistols - 220/30 Clan Atrox Bureaucrat | Sellyoursoul Shotgun - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Trader
Adiee Pistols - 220/30 Clan Solitus Doctor | Boltcutter MA - 220/30 Clan Atrox Engineer | Anorexia - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Enforcer
Lazy: the caste system of ao today is clan > omni > wildlife > neuts.
Gatester: Crats have the best toolset for supporting a team in PVE.
Aramsunat: WRONG! The team supports the crat if the crat is unable to solo (which is rare)!
Hi,
i gave up after finding one post made by a forum mod (technically NOT FC's officials, but try to argue with her, and you will see ).
There were some similar posts from other ARK's/Mod's/FC's, but i can't be bothered to refine my searches every 30 sec (crap forum software ftl )
regards
/Z
Level 200 Nanomage Nano-Technician on Rimor speaking... - Unit Commander of Knights of Ka
Toons:(*=froobs)Zzzzzzwap* (inofficial main),~ Founder of TL5+ - Rimor TL5+ froob raid force ~ || ~ My Tweet... ~
Krisplin* (main, but buff whore),
Theophrastus* (piercing doc - aka froob shade)
Kosminski (Shade - Yes, i went paid...)
Codeleet (s10 & pvp)
So Anarrina says froobs are "determined to be a viable part of the game by the company" (meaningless!) and they are "part of the game both socially and functionally".
Froobs are obviously part of the game socially and functionally and that doesn't prove anything regarding lucrativeness!
But fair enough, you gave up searching, so I'll just consider your comment about how "the froob program turned out to be lucrative" as not proven
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Manicmouse AR SMGs - 220/30 Clan Solitus Soldier - General of New Order
Lawmaker Pistols - 220/30 Clan Atrox Bureaucrat | Sellyoursoul Shotgun - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Trader
Adiee Pistols - 220/30 Clan Solitus Doctor | Boltcutter MA - 220/30 Clan Atrox Engineer | Anorexia - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Enforcer
Lazy: the caste system of ao today is clan > omni > wildlife > neuts.
Gatester: Crats have the best toolset for supporting a team in PVE.
Aramsunat: WRONG! The team supports the crat if the crat is unable to solo (which is rare)!
ok, then find a post from FC saying froobs are actually costing them money ?
// Break time //
/\/\ Newcomers Alliance General and LMAA co-founder /\/\
Froob for 3 years :
Gridpain, Nfurter, Slayie, Forcedevente, Asafart, Theshrike, Whipingwillow, Malaucrane, Karmapolice.
Sloob since 2009 :
Coredumped,Needleworkr,Weepinwilljr,Gridpainjr,Bet amale,Lackwit,Dusttodust, Ouvreboite,Boohoohoo,Asafurt,Whatsthat,Aziraphale
220, 220, 200, 164, 150, 116, 110, 82, 70, 57, 40, 21 ...
Well I wasn't making claims that they were costing money
Maybe it's all in the balance?
It's all speculation by people who have no idea and FC won't comment!
Manicmouse AR SMGs - 220/30 Clan Solitus Soldier - General of New Order
Lawmaker Pistols - 220/30 Clan Atrox Bureaucrat | Sellyoursoul Shotgun - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Trader
Adiee Pistols - 220/30 Clan Solitus Doctor | Boltcutter MA - 220/30 Clan Atrox Engineer | Anorexia - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Enforcer
Lazy: the caste system of ao today is clan > omni > wildlife > neuts.
Gatester: Crats have the best toolset for supporting a team in PVE.
Aramsunat: WRONG! The team supports the crat if the crat is unable to solo (which is rare)!
Kintaii loves us...
Now, i know you wouldn't accept this either. Perhaps i can be bothered to stress the search function a bit more tomorrow
Level 200 Nanomage Nano-Technician on Rimor speaking... - Unit Commander of Knights of Ka
Toons:(*=froobs)Zzzzzzwap* (inofficial main),~ Founder of TL5+ - Rimor TL5+ froob raid force ~ || ~ My Tweet... ~
Krisplin* (main, but buff whore),
Theophrastus* (piercing doc - aka froob shade)
Kosminski (Shade - Yes, i went paid...)
Codeleet (s10 & pvp)
Not sure how reliable Wikipedia is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy..._subscriptions
"The income from the program—which had generated $1,000,000 by its second year—supplements revenue from paid accounts."
Manicmouse AR SMGs - 220/30 Clan Solitus Soldier - General of New Order
Lawmaker Pistols - 220/30 Clan Atrox Bureaucrat | Sellyoursoul Shotgun - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Trader
Adiee Pistols - 220/30 Clan Solitus Doctor | Boltcutter MA - 220/30 Clan Atrox Engineer | Anorexia - 220/30 Clan Nanomage Enforcer
Lazy: the caste system of ao today is clan > omni > wildlife > neuts.
Gatester: Crats have the best toolset for supporting a team in PVE.
Aramsunat: WRONG! The team supports the crat if the crat is unable to solo (which is rare)!