Awesome update Means!
About the heads, they look sweet but please keep the opifex looking a bit elven if you could, and please, keep the evil looks of those soli heads that have facial tats and white eyes.
I can't wait for this update when it comes!
The art team has done an awesome job, that render looks great.
Make sure they get to the weapons and make them more width wise then the current ones. Also make sure the attachment points are correct so that a player isnt holding a 2hand gun in the wrong spot.
And like Klod said, make some idle animations.
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Hum i don't know why, but i think the old opifex face was a way hooter .
Can we at least get some info about the ranged advy situation?
Like why we don't get new Guns while mele got new sword and why our perk are so crappy for example?
A suggestion to remove ranged advy full auto problem : http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...d.php?t=529754
pistol are now for dot user , Ranged advy need revolver :
http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...6&postcount=21
QFT. It's some aged cute gnomey thing, not a sleek Opifex. I'm all for revamped heads but, uh, could they maybe look like the original and preserve the breed features such as slender opis with slightly pointed ears, rather than childlike pale solitus wannabes? Pretty please?
Other than that, smoother and less polygon-y character animations sound great.
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some good news...
however, any other news on Sync Issues? and how you intend to allow Melee profs to play premium content theyve paid for, ie - Battlestation !!!
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Yes! Let's just be thankful this is just a work in progress. Don't get me wrong, the level of detail and textures look great. But she is one ugly chick... and she definitely does NOT look like an Opifex.
List of things to please keep for opi:
1. thin, sleek head shape
2. pointy ears
3. narrow eyes
4. upturned nose
5. snobbish lip shape
6. more grey-ish lips
7. thinner, more pointy hair
8. overall elitist look of dissatisfaction
Character design is (going to be) a hot topic.
Any choices we can get would be greatly appreciated.
You find that you like one face, though the lipstick is too dark.
Another appears to have buck-teeth.
Other games have faces that appear surprised (botox!) or sleepy all the time.
AO's current faces don't have that so much, thankfully.
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Huge means. huge. That is a good sized step forward in the engine. Making sure a common graphics card can handle it is a very nice thing. Well done and keep us posted!I haven't spoken about the engine for awhile...as it is difficult to make code optimization interesting...I only listen in those meeting because I have to. The coders are working hard at optimizing the new engine..as currently it is an "all features on full" affair that provides all features...but poor framerate. Optimizations that were missing from "old" AO are being looked into..like mesh instancing (load that tree once with a single call...and populate it out at no real framerate loss) was one aspect of the coder work this week. They were very excited to have 500 Turbine mesh's on the screen at once without significant issues. I'm going to assume this is a good thing...I sometimes don't always get those "coder moments". At any rate, an effect system is now working and we can begin to start producing some new effects, everything is being rendered...now optimization and the grunt work of producing a great number of effects can begin. Both these are going to take time...but we'll keep at it.
There will of course be some graphical updates with the new engine...the full extent of which isn't fully decided. New trees to freshen up the outdoor environments are definitely coming. Character bodies are going to be "smoothed" and better optimized for animation to lose some of the nasty poly issues. One test in progress at the moment is new character heads...AO has a huge number of these...so we are currently working on a "work in progress" opifex female head as a test case for possible production of new heads. I imagine it is unlikely we will simply replace all the heads in game as all of us have some attatchment to these...but more likely offer a choice to move to a "new" head if we want...and remove the old ones from character creation so all new characters will get new heads. Like I said...this is in the early phases...and not final yet...but exciting so I wanted to share an image with you for this week.
Hopefully that head is just a bad example... while the details and textures are obviously much better (good job on that), it looks very common, doesnt have anything from the opifex characteristics left and mainly, it's not futuristic.
Please do not forget we are playing a sci-fi game, more futuristic faces/gear would be much more coherent, dont you think?
Last edited by Techna; Mar 13th, 2009 at 19:39:05.
If there will be new heads while also keeping the old ones, there will no longer be war between omni and clan. There will be a new war between "smoothskins" and "blockheads"
Edit: Btw, one small "tip" or whatever you want to call it. When I look at AO characters today I get the sense that one of the characteristics of AO is that our eyes are often a tad smaller than "normal". Or at least it looks that way. If you take a quick peek at most avatars then the eyes are quite narrow and small compared to the overall size of the face.
That new 3d model head seems to have Disney eyes in comparison. Make the eyes a tad smaller (they look ok for a normal face but not for a AO face!)
Last edited by Wrangeline; Mar 13th, 2009 at 19:51:01.
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Seriously, not having instancing as part of the current AO engine is a serious offense against any common gfx sense. I mean it was standard of OpenGL 10 years ago. But at least it explains a lot. I just hoe all the world building tool have instance information or the worldbuilders are in for some seriuose overtime rebuilding RK and SL.
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Remodelling the old heads will be a tough task. IMO the old heads are extremely well made considering their poly count. The face we saw here is promising, definitely, and i hope we see some breed varied visual attributes in the future. I bet atrox will be the hardest one.