IP CHANGE- Yes or NO, Clan Specific Armors

[____________Destroth]

Does anyone actually know if there is going to be an IP change. I keep hearing about it.

But most importantly I posted here to find if we clanners will ever get armor like omni pol armor. Sure we got the knights armor, but instead of just fixing it we got it took away from us. I would love to see something that will give us clanners an even chance against the omni pol series of armor.


I also don't think the flowers armor is a good excuse to say were even because everyone can use it.

[Megabio]

Well, as you said, you could use flowers.. And flowers is in fact better than Omni Pol Armor. Well; was before they added Stigma pois damage. (the only weapons that did poison damage were nukes) However, Stigma damage is so low, even at QL 200, that Flowers is still the best armor in the game. For example, Flamethrowers (often used against white Omnipol in PvP) do high damage that uses Fire ACs..
~Chris

[__________Lucid Flow]

Originally posted by Megabio
Well, as you said, you could use flowers.. And flowers is in fact better than Omni Pol Armor. Well; was before they added Stigma pois damage. (the only weapons that did poison damage were nukes) However, Stigma damage is so low, even at QL 200, that Flowers is still the best armor in the game. For example, Flamethrowers (often used against white Omnipol in PvP) do high damage that uses Fire ACs..
~Chris

Flowers is not better then Omni-Elite armor. It has better Chem AC yes, but far weaker poison and less overall AC. Don't get that confused.

[_______________Archu]

Omni elite isn't really that great. The white assault omni pol stuff or whatever it is called is the best armor in the game.

[Megabio]

Originally posted by Lucid Flow



Flowers is not better then Omni-Elite armor. It has better Chem AC yes, but far weaker poison and less overall AC. Don't get that confused.

Omni Elite SUCKS compared to Flowers. Omni Elite gives 1k to all ACs on body armor BUT Chem. Chem is one of the most common damage types other than 'The Big Three'. You have MCS, Toraque Swords, heck, you even have those ultra-light-pistol raiders. And yes; some people do use them and they are quite effective against Black O-Pol.

Fire/Cold AC are a little low as well; but that doesn't matter as only flamethrowers do Fire damage and they do not do all that much... and no weapon uses Cold and Nukes don't take into account ACs.

White Omni-pol is the best in the game; it's only 'true' weakness is fire (as stated above no weapon uses cold and nukes do not take into account ACs) which therefore means that only flamethrowers have any chance against it AC wise and throwers are not that grand in damage occording to AC.. Therefore; White O-Pol is the best in the game, and flowers is in second.
Amen.
~Chris

[__________WGMelchior]

There are weapons that uses cold damage, although they are not very commonly used.


And even if it's still in a purely visual sense, you got more to chose from.

[Megabio]

Originally posted by WGMelchior
There are weapons that uses cold damage, although they are not very commonly used.


And even if it's still in a purely visual sense, you got more to chose from.

Okay;I stand corrected. Weapons that anyone in their right mind would use.
~Chris

[Kinkstaah]

White OP sucks. Flowers beats it in *EVERY SINGLE CATAGORY*

How does that make it a worse armor?

[Megabio]

Originally posted by MiKEBoND
White OP sucks. Flowers beats it in *EVERY SINGLE CATAGORY*

How does that make it a worse armor?

Well, White OP has 1k ACs on a ql 200 body armor for all but Cold/Fire. No one uses cold; so fire is its only weakness. Flower's weakness is Poison; though it has slightly lower radiation, cold, fire, and chem AC I believe. So they are about equal; which is why I do not see why so many people complain. And black omni pol completely sucks with its low chem AC.
~Chris

[______Ripple of Soul]

Flower:

http://antiguardians.org/itemdb.php?&cmd=view&id=85660

White Omni Pol:

http://antiguardians.org/itemdb.php?&cmd=view&id=22064


So, in terms of defense they are pretty much identical.
except one is weak against flamthrower type weapons, one is weak against stigma.

If you take the ability to over equip into account though I believe white omni might have a slight advantage.

And really...pink armor, I mean it's PINK. you really want to wear that? =)

[Megabio]

Originally posted by Ripple of Soul

And really...pink armor, I mean it's PINK. you really want to wear that? =) [/B]

Well you have to wear a blue coat anyway. What does it matter?
~Chris

[_______________Archu]

Omni pol not only protects better against the most common damage types but it also has quite a bit lower reqs to wear.

[M@hdi]

To give a perspective on the original question (rpg wise):

Omni-Tek is a big, well funded corporation which has dedicated engineers working to improve their armor and weapons 24/7.

Us clanners are the "peasants" of rubi-ka carrying pitch forks for arms and badly woven cloth for armor (figure of speech )

Da thing is, when you play Omni and have that well funded organisation behind you, you have certain advantages. To name just 2 small ones, you get more money for loot at an Omni store (a thing us clanners are left without since the end of the amnesty) and the trade part of the shops have 2 levels (less running around for that implant or cluster). Things you would expect from a large company.

Us clanners have the council of tediousness. They have neither money, nor recourses (and the little they do have they squander in their precious little tower) so they will not develop any clan specific armor. They honestly couldn't be bothered, and if they did, Phillip has em on such a short leesh, they wouldn't dare.

In conclusion: I think the lack of clan specific items adds to the realism of the rpg part of AO, it might not be quite fair, but then again, what in life is?

GreetingZz

-Mah

PS: for those who want to compare numbers in armor check out this wicked armor review by Konril

[____________Ejeckted]

elite: ProjectileAC by 1000
omni-pol: ProjectileAC by 1000
flowers: ProjectileAC by 1000
waitt: ProjectileAC by 1000
nano: ProjectileAC by 875
graft: ProjectileAC by 825
obtru: ProjectileAC by 1000
primus: ProjectileAC by 1000

elite: MeleeAC by 1000
omni-pol: MeleeAC by 1000
flowers: MeleeAC by 1000
nano: MeleeAC by 1000
waitt: MeleeAC by 1000
graft: MeleeAC by 1000
obtru: MeleeAC by 875
primus: MeleeAC by 1000

elite: EnergyAC by 1000
omni-pol: EnergyAC by 1000
nano: EnergyAC by 1000
waitt: EnergyAC by 875
flowers: EnergyAC by 1000
graft: EnergyAC by 1000
obtru: EnergyAC by 1000
primus: EnergyAC by 1000

elite: ChemicalAC by 250
omni-pol: ChemicalAC by 875
nano: ChemicalAC by 250
waitt: ChemicalAC by 625
flowers: ChemicalAC by 875
graft: ChemicalAC by 750
obtru: ChemicalAC by 1000
primus: ChemicalAC by 625

elite: RadiationAC by 875
omni-pol: RadiationAC by 875
nano: RadiationAC by 875
waitt: RadiationAC by 750
flowers: RadiationAC by 1000
graft: RadiationAC by 625
obtru: RadiationAC by 250
primus: RadiationAC by 250

elite: PoisonAC by 875
omni-pol: PoisonAC by 750
nano: PoisonAC by 1000
waitt: PoisonAC by 250
flowers: PoisonAC by 250
graft: PoisonAC by 825
obtru: PoisonAC by 875
primus: PoisonAC by 875

elite: FireAC by 875
omni-pol: FireAC by 250
nano: FireAC by 875
waitt: FireAC by 875
flowers: FireAC by 750
graft: FireAC by 825
obtru: FireAC by 875
primus: FireAC by 875

elite: ColdAC by 875
omni-pol: ColdAC by 250
nano: ColdAC by 875
waitt: ColdAC by 875
flowers: ColdAC by 750
graft: ColdAC by 200
obtru: ColdAC by 875
primus: ColdAC by 875