NT only armor in 14.7.8

[______________Nediar]

I searched the 14.7.8 db and was upset to see that agents are getting agent only armor. Why not make Gloomfall Armor (Body) NT only, and change the stupid modifiers to +nano skills? It's not like agents would miss anything, they can still wear it (along with any other profession specific armor).

Give me one good reason why agents need AGENT ONLY armor. And while you're at it (devs), give me one good reason why NTs don't have any NT only armor (I don't consider notum saturated metaplast as being in existance). Give me one good reason why NTs keep getting overlooked, every patch. At least my enforcer will be getting a few new weapons to possibly play with.

No offense to agents, I'm not bashing you. I'm just in a foul mood.

[Xzeepo]

give me 1 good reason you posted?

[______________Nediar]

Just 1? Okay, let's see.. because I can?

[secondkenlon]

Give ME one good reason why *anyone* should have armor that is restricted by profession.

[Morthoseth]

Originally posted by Nediar
I searched the 14.7.8 db and was upset to see that agents are getting agent only armor. Why not make Gloomfall Armor (Body) NT only, and change the stupid modifiers to +nano skills? It's not like agents would miss anything, they can still wear it (along with any other profession specific armor).

Give me one good reason why agents need AGENT ONLY armor.
And while you're at it (devs), give me one good reason why NTs don't have any NT only armor (I don't consider notum saturated metaplast as being in existance). Give me one good reason why NTs keep getting overlooked, every patch. At least my enforcer will be getting a few new weapons to possibly play with.

No offense to agents, I'm not bashing you. I'm just in a foul mood.

As an agent, I understand your frustrations with FC.. but..

If you change it's reqs, then why would an agent wear it? It is
tailored to meet an agents needs, it's so very obvious isn't it?

Why don't you ask for your own (NT) profession only armor. You
know, instead of trying to take something away from another
profession? I don't mean to be confrontive, but that request is
just completely illogical. Agents shouldn't HAVE TO go AP/MP just
to get into decent armor, do you have any idea how much of a
pain in the ass it is, to do that everytime you come accross a
piece you want to use, but it belongs to another profession?
Agents *don't have any armor if their own*, and now they're
finally getting it. Oh... Don't even talk about that stupid black sock....

Should NT's get an NT only armor? Certainly.
Should we give them agent armor? Hell **** no, that's insanity.

Though trading nano init for ranged would be more benefitical.

Just because YOU don't have any doesn't mean you should get
Gloomfall, because you know what? Agents don't have any either
yet, and the main reason they want their own stuff is because
they won't have to go MP just to put good armor on. Not only
that, but NT's would probably want different wear reqs, than
agents. Other than the fact that the whole line is designed
around agent requests, I'd say you're onto something. Good enough?

Rifle/As/Ranged Init, obvious. HP, obvious. NCU... we're a heavy
buffing class, but even still it's really just a bonus. Additional base
damage, definitely for us - Our main complaint was our poor base
damage. And I think some add to evades, which we also lack...

This may actually be the planned armor for agents in Shadowland's.

Anyway, let's just be more realistic here. Want NT only armor,
Ned? Design it, and offer it to FC.. It's not hard to pick a mesh
and statistics and go with it. Now, what exactly do NT's want?

Here's an idea for a chest piece:

Nediar's Wacktastic Mechalogical Nano Armor!

To wear:
Self Psychic: 514
Self Intelligence: 498
Profession == Nanotech.

Modify Wearer ChemicalAC 975
Modify Wearer ColdAC 853
Modify Wearer EnergyAC 975
Modify Wearer FireAC 953
Modify Wearer MeleeAC 953
Modify Wearer PoisonAC 853
Modify Wearer ProjectileAC 975
Modify Wearer RadiationAC 853

Modify Wearer Nano Delta 50
Modify Wearer Nano Init 20
Modify Wearer MaxNCU 6
Modify Wearer MaxHealth 150
Modify Wearer NanoPool 150
Modify Wearer MattCrea 10
Modify Wearer Time&Space 10
Modify Wearer MatterMet 10
Modify Wearer SenseImp 8
Modify Wearer PsyMod 8
Modify Wearer NanoResist 50

Description:

This armor was made to keep agents and NT's from flaming each
other over something silly, that should have already been implemented.

No flames toward you, just trying to help. Don't know ya, but I
have your back on the NT's needing profession specific armor, but
using FP as an excuse to deny agents of things that are theirs is
just simply cruel, illogical, and isn't going to happen, for sure.

I hope that last part was enough to change your mind for the
better, because expecting what you propose to happen is only
setting you up for disappointment.. because it'll never happen.

Anyway, I'll BUMP to NT self only armor, but not taking Gloomfall from agents.

[Morthoseth]

Originally posted by Kenlon
Give ME one good reason why *anyone* should have armor that is restricted by profession.

We mean aside from grid armor, right? It's class defining.

Not that it's a reason, but certain armor is tailored around the
needs of a profession. Oddly enough, I don't see the logic either.
Weapons? Sometimes, yes. Nanos, yes. However, hmm...

Now if it IS something that is specifically geared around a
profession's skills, why not? It's nice to have something that is a
reward for you choosing the profession you have. That's just IMO..

[secondkenlon]

If it's geared to your skills, then why profession restrict it?

[Fingathing]

thing is.. most people will select "what's best".. and giving a NT armor that boosts nanoskills because it's what we do? well, alot of other professions have issues getting enough nanoskills, so they would too use it (or switch it on for buffs and take off, whatever)

I see the need.. and I want more of it

make them look unique

[Morthoseth]

Originally posted by Kenlon
If it's geared to your skills, then why profession restrict it?

If it's geared towards my skills, why would anyone else care? Seriously
though, I could actually care less if it were useable by all professions.

Thing is, it IS nice to have something of your own. Tell me, if you
were asked if you wanted items specifically for your profession
that could benefit it, would you say no? Would you say "Give it to
everyone else too?" I'm willing to say not. Because the said items
are intended to give the profession that uses the boosted skills a
little extra "something" over those who use the same skills but
aren't the focused profession that is supposed to be masters of
those skills. (I mean that particularly for agents, nothing else really.)

Rifle/AS.. which combat class uses that other than agents, who
readily wears sense/agility armor? None. No, nano casting
classes or pet classes, they don't count as weapon classes.

At best Soldiers, who would never use a Rifle anyway, and ADV's,
who have buffs for 1HE and Pistol, which makes that their class
specific skills now, though they are somewhat intended to be JoT's..

It is agent armor.

But, really, for it to be a SKILL based game, profession reqs are bad... I'll concede to that.

[_______________North]

Give ME one good reason why *anyone* should have armor that is restricted by profession.

I agree to this completely. Armors could however be base on breed.

Also rings/bracelets/etc could have profession requirement.

Mostly tho stuff in the game should be based on skill requirements...and high level stuff with level requirements (I know some don't agree with this point, but I think its all in goodness).