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Thread: Helpbot needs your help for /tell helpbot level 151

  1. #1

    Helpbot needs your help for /tell helpbot level 151

    Heya, your friendly Helpbot author here.

    Anyone know the limits for PvP now? I want to accurately update Helpbot's /level answers, but I need y'all's help.

    I know there is a new 150 level cap, but does that mean that a L 151 cannot attack a L149?

    Anyone know the new rules?

    I'll update Helpbot asap.

    Post here or do
    /tell helpbot feedback <full message>

    thanks
    original author of Helpbot

  2. #2
    /me bows and prostrates to the author of helpbot

    /me looks ignorantly at his question

    /me continues to bow and prostrate
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  3. #3
    Something like you cant attack ppl that are grey or red to you.

  4. #4
    At level 166 I was able to attack someone who was in their 130s, I think. But it was at a tower battle, and they might have been teamed with someone higher level - that puts all the bets off.
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  5. #5
    Get an ark to explain it to you, i think you will be supprised by what they have to say

  6. #6
    lol Yazule

    Tiggy: I already tried that. They said "we can't give out formulas" What did the ARK you spoke with tell you?

    Jynne: thanks, I need more feedback with examples and data like yours
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  7. #7
    Yo Doc

    Works on the same principle as it did for <75. You can only attack people in your range. I think the lowest I could attack at 158 was 133ish. The cap doesn't make a difference really. Only that level 200's can't gank level 75's.

  8. #8
    first of all i would like to say FC should pay for all of your accounts

    you provide a service that they should have implemented

    now on too your question i can not attack bright greens

    not always sure what the levels are but i know one was 141 and i am 185 anmd i coulod not attack him.
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  9. #9
    Poor Helpbot author... SHAME ON YOU FC!

  10. #10
    Originally posted by besheba
    first of all i would like to say FC should pay for all of your accounts

    you provide a service that they should have implemented
    BUMPAGE!

    Seriously if ur not a ark and having ur account paid for anyway I think it's FCs duty!
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  11. #11
    DOCMAX IS GOD!
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  12. #12
    Originally posted by Tiggy
    Get an ark to explain it to you, i think you will be supprised by what they have to say
    "Sorry that's spoiler information"?

  13. #13
    Originally posted by TheDeacon/Xcelsius
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    Damn, I read your signature while I was eating. You are a bad man.

  14. #14
    Originally posted by TheDeacon/Xcelsius
    DOCMAX IS GOD!
    Just have to bump that one bumpii

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  15. #15
    /me casts +40 bowing and prostrating buff on Yazule
    Heals - they're not just for tradeskills anymore
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  16. #16
    Someone posted a complete table on this in the temporary forum in one of the rooted threads announcing this change.

    Unfortunately that forum has just been removed.

    A L151 can however attack a wide range of players
    From my head it would be somewhere like L120-200
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  17. #17
    lol, you guys are nuts, but thanks for the compliments

    That was me that posted the table in the sticky thread, but I was going on the assumption that it was the same as the 75 level limit.

    I'll alter Helpbot tonight to be like the 75 limit but with a L 150.

    If anyone finds any exceptions to this table, do /tell helpbot feedback <full message> and I'll correct it.




    Based on this assumptive formula:

    PHP Code:
    for ($level=1;$level<=200;$level++)
    {
            
    $low $level/1.3+1;
            
    $high $level*1.3-1;

            if (
    $level<150)     $high $level*1.3-1;
            if (
    $high>200)      $high=200;
            if (
    $high<$level)   $high=$level;
            if (
    $low<1)         $low=1;
            if (
    $low>$level)    $low=$level;
                
            if (
    $level>150 && $low>150)  $low=150;
                
            echo 
    sprintf("L%s: pvp %0.0f-%0.0f\n",$level,$low,$high);

    this is what I'll put into Helpbot as a guestimate:

    Code:
    L1: pvp 1-1
    L2: pvp 2-2
    L3: pvp 3-3
    L4: pvp 4-4
    L5: pvp 5-6
    L6: pvp 6-7
    L7: pvp 6-8
    L8: pvp 7-9
    L9: pvp 8-11
    L10: pvp 9-12
    L11: pvp 9-13
    L12: pvp 10-15
    L13: pvp 11-16
    L14: pvp 12-17
    L15: pvp 13-19
    L16: pvp 13-20
    L17: pvp 14-21
    L18: pvp 15-22
    L19: pvp 16-24
    L20: pvp 16-25
    L21: pvp 17-26
    L22: pvp 18-28
    L23: pvp 19-29
    L24: pvp 19-30
    L25: pvp 20-32
    L26: pvp 21-33
    L27: pvp 22-34
    L28: pvp 23-35
    L29: pvp 23-37
    L30: pvp 24-38
    L31: pvp 25-39
    L32: pvp 26-41
    L33: pvp 26-42
    L34: pvp 27-43
    L35: pvp 28-45
    L36: pvp 29-46
    L37: pvp 29-47
    L38: pvp 30-48
    L39: pvp 31-50
    L40: pvp 32-51
    L41: pvp 33-52
    L42: pvp 33-54
    L43: pvp 34-55
    L44: pvp 35-56
    L45: pvp 36-58
    L46: pvp 36-59
    L47: pvp 37-60
    L48: pvp 38-61
    L49: pvp 39-63
    L50: pvp 39-64
    L51: pvp 40-65
    L52: pvp 41-67
    L53: pvp 42-68
    L54: pvp 43-69
    L55: pvp 43-71
    L56: pvp 44-72
    L57: pvp 45-73
    L58: pvp 46-74
    L59: pvp 46-76
    L60: pvp 47-77
    L61: pvp 48-78
    L62: pvp 49-80
    L63: pvp 49-81
    L64: pvp 50-82
    L65: pvp 51-84
    L66: pvp 52-85
    L67: pvp 53-86
    L68: pvp 53-87
    L69: pvp 54-89
    L70: pvp 55-90
    L71: pvp 56-91
    L72: pvp 56-93
    L73: pvp 57-94
    L74: pvp 58-95
    L75: pvp 59-97
    L76: pvp 59-98
    L77: pvp 60-99
    L78: pvp 61-100
    L79: pvp 62-102
    L80: pvp 63-103
    L81: pvp 63-104
    L82: pvp 64-106
    L83: pvp 65-107
    L84: pvp 66-108
    L85: pvp 66-110
    L86: pvp 67-111
    L87: pvp 68-112
    L88: pvp 69-113
    L89: pvp 69-115
    L90: pvp 70-116
    L91: pvp 71-117
    L92: pvp 72-119
    L93: pvp 73-120
    L94: pvp 73-121
    L95: pvp 74-123
    L96: pvp 75-124
    L97: pvp 76-125
    L98: pvp 76-126
    L99: pvp 77-128
    L100: pvp 78-129
    L101: pvp 79-130
    L102: pvp 79-132
    L103: pvp 80-133
    L104: pvp 81-134
    L105: pvp 82-136
    L106: pvp 83-137
    L107: pvp 83-138
    L108: pvp 84-139
    L109: pvp 85-141
    L110: pvp 86-142
    L111: pvp 86-143
    L112: pvp 87-145
    L113: pvp 88-146
    L114: pvp 89-147
    L115: pvp 89-149
    L116: pvp 90-150
    L117: pvp 91-151
    L118: pvp 92-152
    L119: pvp 93-154
    L120: pvp 93-155
    L121: pvp 94-156
    L122: pvp 95-158
    L123: pvp 96-159
    L124: pvp 96-160
    L125: pvp 97-162
    L126: pvp 98-163
    L127: pvp 99-164
    L128: pvp 99-165
    L129: pvp 100-167
    L130: pvp 101-168
    L131: pvp 102-169
    L132: pvp 103-171
    L133: pvp 103-172
    L134: pvp 104-173
    L135: pvp 105-175
    L136: pvp 106-176
    L137: pvp 106-177
    L138: pvp 107-178
    L139: pvp 108-180
    L140: pvp 109-181
    L141: pvp 109-182
    L142: pvp 110-184
    L143: pvp 111-185
    L144: pvp 112-186
    L145: pvp 113-188
    L146: pvp 113-189
    L147: pvp 114-190
    L148: pvp 115-191
    L149: pvp 116-193
    L150: pvp 116-194
    L151: pvp 117-195
    L152: pvp 118-197
    L153: pvp 119-198
    L154: pvp 119-199
    L155: pvp 120-200
    L156: pvp 121-200
    L157: pvp 122-200
    L158: pvp 123-200
    L159: pvp 123-200
    L160: pvp 124-200
    L161: pvp 125-200
    L162: pvp 126-200
    L163: pvp 126-200
    L164: pvp 127-200
    L165: pvp 128-200
    L166: pvp 129-200
    L167: pvp 129-200
    L168: pvp 130-200
    L169: pvp 131-200
    L170: pvp 132-200
    L171: pvp 133-200
    L172: pvp 133-200
    L173: pvp 134-200
    L174: pvp 135-200
    L175: pvp 136-200
    L176: pvp 136-200
    L177: pvp 137-200
    L178: pvp 138-200
    L179: pvp 139-200
    L180: pvp 139-200
    L181: pvp 140-200
    L182: pvp 141-200
    L183: pvp 142-200
    L184: pvp 143-200
    L185: pvp 143-200
    L186: pvp 144-200
    L187: pvp 145-200
    L188: pvp 146-200
    L189: pvp 146-200
    L190: pvp 147-200
    L191: pvp 148-200
    L192: pvp 149-200
    L193: pvp 149-200
    L194: pvp 150-200
    L195: pvp 150-200
    L196: pvp 150-200
    L197: pvp 150-200
    L198: pvp 150-200
    L199: pvp 150-200
    L200: pvp 150-200
    original author of Helpbot

  18. #18
    Your table doesnt work. Im as a lvl 184 cant attack 143. Thats sure. But my lvl 143 MA can attack 155 and vice versa.

    It looks like my lvl 184 limit is pretty close to the 150. I could do some tests in the arena to get the exact number.

    Stay tuned

    Edit:
    Ok, here we go - lvl 144 doesnt work, lvl 147 works with my lvl 184. Dont know it for 145-146, couldnt test that.
    Last edited by Zagareth; Dec 5th, 2002 at 23:08:25.
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  19. #19
    indeed not completely accurate.

    Code:
    L150: pvp 116-194
    L150 should be able to attack till L200
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    • Best custom skin: Notum DovveTech HUD upgrade (based on Dovve's AO Enhancements)

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  20. #20
    Have you tried contacting the funcom developers?

    Since they put up a commercial for helpbot in the Subway dungeon, they might want to help you with this getting the correct numbers.
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    • Check my QL200 Enforcer implant designs at Auno.org: 1HE 2HE 2HB
    • Best custom map: Raiko's Map (based on Dovve's AO Enhancements)
    • Best custom skin: Notum DovveTech HUD upgrade (based on Dovve's AO Enhancements)

    Omni-Tek is your friend!
    Elnertz: "I spend all my time making all the loot mine, all because there is no ****ing storyline!"

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