CoA versus Sentinels

[_____________Kungwho]

Silverstone and the Sents have traditionally been extremists. Shooting neutrals in Tir that are unarmed, arriving alone, and killing them without a blink of the eye, is extreme and in accord with the Sentinel's history.

The CoA is a defensive arrangement among Clanners that had patrolled Tir prior to the arrival of the Sentinels. The CoA allowed free movement to Neutrals, and escorted Omni from the city without bloodshed (if cooperation was found).

Freedom loving Clanners and Neutrals are called upon to support the CoA.

To the Neutrals especially, I do not see how you can avoid making a choice now on this issue without ignoring reality, and the risks you take with your diverse ideals and your personal safety. This in no wise requires you to become a Clanner, but simply to state your support AS Neutrals for the CoA, against the extremism of the Sentinels. For the CoA needs your support--and your support as Neutrals.

[Fixerben]

Yes Kung, the CoA openly invites any Neutrals who wish to fight for the Freedom of Rubi-Ka from Corporate and Radicalist opression to join us. Remain neutral but voice your support for our cause. We dont ask for money, or for you to shed your blood for us. We only ask for anything you can give us to aid us in our task of defending the people from opressors that would enslave them.

Long live the Clans! Long live Freedom!

[Arila]

Originally posted by Benjacrat
Long live the Clans! Long live Freedom!

Long live the traitors, long live foolish dreams!

The clans, bah! Sentinels or CoA, its the same to me. Sentinels plain out attack the neutral ICC (neutral more or less) and take over Tir, the companies and OTs are gone, what are you crying for now? The CoA have several times attacked Omni-Tek directly, just as the sentinels have, and will do, and you claim to want peace. Well, then stop attacking peacefull OTs as well as Neutrals, ive been shot down several times by "peaceful" CoA members.

Thats the problem, a change happen and the clans cry out, even if its for tehir own advantage...

/me shakes her head

[Fixerben]

Yes Arila, we wanted a change. But we did not want to be murderes or terrorists. And where in the world you get off calling us traitors is beyond me.

And first of all, the last time CoA had attacked OmniTek directly was months ago, since then we have disbanded and reformed and are now on a new mission.

You are yet another uninformed drone, that has no clue why we are here. You think we dont want peace, meet me in game. I will show you who doesnt want peace. But until you have met my people, and know who we are and what we do. Dont judge us.

And I dont want to hear about all the press releases you read about how clan attacks Omni. Its all lies, OmniTek will do whatever it has to do to further its corporate goals. That is even in the mission statement of the OTSEC.

Here is the mission statement of the CoA yet again:

"The mission of the CoA is to protect the Clans until a time when a proper government is established. The CoA does not want to govern the clans in any form. Only to protect the common freedoms that we all share, and are threatened by OmniTek. At such a time that a new Clan Government is established and the CoA is ordered to disband, we will immediately comply. We are here to protect you and want nothing in return."

This change does not go along with anything the CoA stands for. And none of the clans wanted this change. We had no say in it. That makes the Sentinels just as bad as OmniTek for attacking and seizing control of Tir. The Sentinels have become the embodiment of everything we are not, they are Militant, tyrannical, and radical. All things the CoA is not.

[Kithraks]

Originally posted by Benjacrat
You are yet another uninformed drone, that has no clue why we are here. You think we dont want peace, meet me in game. I will show you who doesnt want peace. But until you have met my people, and know who we are and what we do. Dont judge us.

And I dont want to hear about all the press releases you read about how clan attacks Omni. Its all lies, OmniTek will do whatever it has to do to further its corporate goals. That is even in the mission statement of the OTSEC.

Here is the mission statement of the CoA yet again:

"The mission of the CoA is to protect the Clans until a time when a proper government is established. The CoA does not want to govern the clans in any form. Only to protect the common freedoms that we all share, and are threatened by OmniTek. At such a time that a new Clan Government is established and the CoA is ordered to disband, we will immediately comply. We are here to protect you and want nothing in return."

This change does not go along with anything the CoA stands for. And none of the clans wanted this change. We had no say in it. That makes the Sentinels just as bad as OmniTek for attacking and seizing control of Tir. The Sentinels have become the embodiment of everything we are not, they are Militant, tyrannical, and radical. All things the CoA is not.

Calling people drones, isn't that an attempt to imply a CoA member is somehow better than normal people? That you are above the law and can do as you say is correct? Do not judge others before asking others to not judge you.

Refuseing to hear the people out and saying OTSEC is furthering company goals also comes accross as flat. Don't the CoA further "clan" goals and have their own agenda? Yes, saying that the mission statment of the CoA is to defend the clans etc is all very nice from a legal standpoint, but up until recently, they have been against everything they claim to be fighting for now.

They were attempting to sieze control from the absent CoT, they instigated unprovoked attacks on Avalon, 4-Holes, 2-HO among other places causeing great loss of life and corporate property. The only threats you claim to defend against were caused by the CoA's own actions.

Propaganda works both ways. You are worse than what the CoA used to be. At least then, they had the decency of not saying what amounts to "Don't listen to Omni-Tek, they put out propaganda. But wait, listen to ours'."

[________________Necc]

Originally posted by Kungwho
Silverstone and the Sents have traditionally been extremists. Shooting neutrals in Tir that are unarmed, arriving alone, and killing them without a blink of the eye, is extreme and in accord with the Sentinel's history.

The CoA is a defensive arrangement among Clanners that had patrolled Tir prior to the arrival of the Sentinels. The CoA allowed free movement to Neutrals, and escorted Omni from the city without bloodshed (if cooperation was found).

Freedom loving Clanners and Neutrals are called upon to support the CoA.

To the Neutrals especially, I do not see how you can avoid making a choice now on this issue without ignoring reality, and the risks you take with your diverse ideals and your personal safety. This in no wise requires you to become a Clanner, but simply to state your support AS Neutrals for the CoA, against the extremism of the Sentinels. For the CoA needs your support--and your support as Neutrals.

No thanks. I prefer to stay neutral to your conflict. I defend myself, not your ideals.

Supporting your cause would in fact make me a clanner, which I have no intention of becoming.

Though I do appreciate CoA's intention not to shoot me or any other neutral on sight.

To all those who kill neutrals on sight I would only like to say one thing. Cowards all of you! To scared to fight the real fight are ya? Instead you pick on the ones that aren't involved and less likely to hurt you. Everytime me or a friend of mine gets shot, you turn me one more step away from ever sympatising with you.


(edited for spelling)

[Bionitrous]

We're defending ourselves as Neutrals. Kind of weird to side with Clanners to kill Clanners. But, that should show you what Neutrality is all about.

We plan on a gift for Silverstone that he won't like come Friday.

[Fixerben]

Kithrak, it seems you interpret my words too deeply. Calling one person an uninformed drone is not equal to me implying that CoA is better than any one else, and above any laws. As far as I know there are no more laws since the Tir accord has been nullified.

Furthermore the only goal the CoA has is to aid any clans that are in need of defense. This is not a cause that can be furthered. Certainly the more clans that ask us for our aid the bigger we grow. But we ask nothing in return. So there is no gain, or agenda in this for us except a peaceful coexistence. And you will not ever see me posting propaganda. I am not a liar, or one of the type that likes to conjure things up out of thin air. I get by on my honesty and good character as hard as it may be to beleive for you.

And Kithrak as I said when I met you in Tir that day. And you watched me "peacefully" remove Omni Patroller. I understand that the CoA does have a bad history. But I am striving to change that image every day. The only people that dont seem to be getting the point are Omni.

Many clans that were strongly against us now dont officially support us, but they do not officially oppose us. Our goals and members have matured to a more moderate stand point. And if you can not see it, I can not force you to. Once again Kithrak all I ask is a chance.

[Arila]

You want a chance? Good, here it is, surrender your weapons and stay whithin the clan areas, even tho they aint "clan" more, if you ask Boss Ross that is

You ahd your areas, own freedom, goverment, and law. And yet again, you wanted more. The clans is not diffrent from Omni-tek. You cant seem to get enough, always want another bite of the cake. Well, here the news for you, there aint anymore cake on the plate, so you try to steal another persons.

[Fixerben]

"You want a chance? Good, here it is, surrender your weapons and stay whithin the clan areas"

First of all, we will not surrender our weapons, we need them to defend ourselves just as OT citizens do. We dont ask you to drop your weapons, so dont ask us to.

Second, The CoA has only come into Omni areas such as PvP zones when provoked to attack, or for peace talks. Our latest attempt at peace talks was foiled by OTSEC Representatives immediately opening fure upon our representatives. It seems they didnt want to talk...

"You had your areas, own freedom, goverment, and law. And yet again, you wanted more."

We did not have our own freedom. What we had was a temporary ceasefire, and a long stretch of compromises. We were no longer happy with just compromises. We wanted the one thing that is a right of all people, no matter their alignment, race, or origins. That right is "Freedom". Freedom to go where you want, and talk to who you want. Certainly within certain boundaries, but you know what I mean.

[Kithraks]

How about the freedom for me to protect my way of life? As an Omni-Tek employee what you are suggesting sounds like you wish to destroy and eradicate everything I have known and cared for. The company is far bigger than the clans. They own entire solar systems. For them to "share" in the republician vision would be for a only branch of this large company to somehow be subservient to your higher authority.

[Fixerben]

Kithrak, I claim no higher authority. I only make a suggestion for peace. If your ways and our ways conflicting causes conflict then both our ways should be changed not just yours. I am willing to change things for the good of the people of Rubi-Ka. Are you?

[Arila]

Originally posted by Benjacrat
[ We wanted the one thing that is a right of all people, no matter their alignment, race, or origins. [/B]

All races, but the Solitus is coming from omni-tek labs to correct you.

And whats that about the "people on Rubi-ka"?? This is a leased planet, and it will always be like that, until the notum runs out. Nor you, or i can prevent that. If it aint Omni-Tek, then its another company. And im sure that Sol "Spanking" is eager to take over. they dont care about your ..."freedom" nor the compromises you have with omni-tek.

in short, be glad for what you have, cause you risk to lose everything if you aim to high.

As for your peace idea... well, nothing would be more welcome to me then a lasting peace, but i doubt that will ever happen as long as there are extremists..... on both sides.

[_________shaquaneeva]

no one neut can speak for the sum of us all. asking us to come together as neutrals to support you sounds outlandish at best.

why would we support clanners? if we wanted to do that we could simply buy an application form.

while your support is appreciated, it shows good intentions and is a credit to the CoA, do not act like it was asked for and do not expect us to gather under Your wings. i would rather ask for more support from the ICC. there is a reason we are neutral. if you have a problem with silverstone then take it up with the sentinals. do what you have to to take him out of Tir. CoA ? Council of Ares ? isent Ares the greek god of War ? wasent support for your council taken in the days that many clanners thought that the peace seeking policies of the CoT were not represenitive of the true clan sprit and sought a more aggressive means of getting what they wanted from OT ?

no, speaking for myself, as only a true neutral does in these matters, you do what you want to accomplish your goals. we neuts will do what we have to to protect our autonomy and our way of life.
look at the bickering going on between CoA and omni even when they would both want simon out of Tir.you would think that for once, just once, that this atrocity agienst clan and omni alike would bind you together to restore peace, even in the absence of the CoT. all we want is the ablity to live our lives and travel in peace,and when i look at any party involved here, it boggles my mind to think that anyone would think that i would want to join them in these matters.

[_____________Kungwho]

My dear Shaq:

You want to travel in peace? Then travel presently to Tir with your family. At your peril. For you will die. For the Sentinels do not allow you to travel in peace.

The CoA allows you to travel in peace. Why? Cause you are a neutral whom we respect, and will protect you in our cities if your presence there is peaceable.

Do we ask you to become Clan? No. We ask for your support as Neutrals. Do we ask you to take up arms with us? No. We are asking for your MORAL support.

The real problem here lies in whether you can throw your support behind an Org--labelled a Clanner Org--that you can trust will protect a diversity of lifestyles, including you own. Or whether your support will just empower another oppressive regime.

But you do not inquire into the real problem, which leads me to wonder whether your idealism is leading you to a reckless disregard of a practical means for securing a viable future for your lifestyle and that of your family.

[_________Silver Girl]

Any support that is given changes one from neutrol to the side they give support to. I am now and ever more an omni tek emplyee. I,like many of my fellows feel that being neutrol is just one step better then betraying the contract that we all signed when comeing here,by carrying arms against omni-tek. But unlike many of my fellows, I understand the need for the neutrols to be left to be neutrol, for only through these same neutrols, who follow no study but there own, are the true marvels created. As long as there is war on Rubi ka,neutrols must remain just that...neutrol. If some do not stand by and seek to heal what others destroy, to perserve some part of the whole.... then we will all learn what destruction can cause. Think on this my family,warring and at peace alike,we are family. Think of a legion of Nano techs turning the very air around a city into flames,with no unattacked towns who arent part of the struggle to rebuild. Think of legions of traders, of soilders destroying swaths of ourn battered world in a struggle that cant end in peace, becouse the vary world lets us be reborn. Some small part of our world MUST, remain neutrol, or we will destroy it all, useing the vary powers our world has given us. On many worlds we would be called Gods for the very powers we use on a whim, on This world we are destroyers. I say again, for our own sake, for the sake of our world, this world that is so terrible, yet that we love so much, the neutrols must remain free of any side, least they become what I, and the intelligent of both sides, fear. The hammer that will destroy Rubi-ka forever. I wish to see my children grow up this terribley beautiful world. I want to fear for them,not from rebels but from the evils of the world. I beg you,as i have never begged anyone before, do not do this thing that each of our sides asks of you, embrace the terrible heart of winter that is being neutrol and keep our world alive for our children!

[Daimoness]

Face facts: Rubi-Ka is leased by Omni-Tek. Most people that came here came courtesy to the same Omni-Tek. so much is true. But from this point, the road goes down for a long, long time. Omni-Tek took the "contracts" for a permission to enslave, oppress and abuse the people that came here. Go out of you walled cities. Take a look at the abominations that roam the wilderness. Don't many of them look way too human for it to be simply a caprice of nature? Most of them are escaped 'experminents' by Omni-Tek laboratories, mishaps on the road to the semi-godly powers of creating life, creating a new human. and while all this happend, the more fortunate were working in the notum mines under conditions that would best be described as 'slavery' or 'boot camp'.

Omni-Tek has disregarded the human rights - rights that no contract and no authority can deny - and thus forfeited the right to exclusively own this planet. We, then clans, are descendants of those that have denied to work for a corporation that abused its power. We have made this planet our home and we will fight for it if need be.

We recognize that Omni-Tek has changed long since, they treat their people better and they have cut down their experiments. 'Cut down' does however not mean 'stopped', anyone who wants to see is invited to visit Biomare labs, they are hidden behind a door labelled 'Foreman' in the Omni mines in The Longest Road. Once you see the huge tanks with human bodies growing inside will recognize that Omni-Tek still has not stopped to mess with humans.

It is right that the clans have a history that's written in blood. But else, we would not be free today. We would never have gained our rights if not by using force. As of today, we have the right to be free, and we have a right to our land. Omni-Tek however, in it's greed, wants to take away this land, but you should understand that by doing this, you mean 'war'. A war that you know you can't win. You have tried three times and failed, and each time we grew stronger.

You can wave the lease contract for as long as you want, and you can show us our contracts. They do not mean anything to us. My parents died due to Omni-Tek's protection ("Omni-Tek protects") and they were Omni-Tek's employees. I was, too, until that very day, then I choose to rather live free, even if that meant that I would have to cancel my contract. But then again, I'm native here. I was born on this planet and thus you have no right to turn me away even if I'm not your owned property - and that's what you call your employees.

Towards the goal of freedom we had to use force. We had to spill blood and many that died were 'collateral damage', innocent bystanders, civilians. But in war, humanity ecplises, and the devil shows his face. Throughout history, it has always been the normal people that endured most pain and suffering. And some people still believe there is no other way. Simon Silverstone is one of them. The Mercury Dragons shared this belief, too, but we have seen that violence often leads to more violence. The wounds of the past close slowly, but with the hope of a better future we can proceed. By turning back and seeing only the past we won't be able to take a step ahead. I hope very much that the Sentinels will see the truth one day, but for now, they are pouring more oil into the fire.

The neutrals are no problem to me. They chose to not be a part of this conflict which is a denial of the truth, but for now they will be able to continue as they wish. But I must remind you: War does not know neutrals, there is only friend or foe. One day, you will have to choose a side or you will be crushed in the middle. Face reality: Your land devides the territory of the clans and the property of Omni-Tek. Do you really think that everyone will take great care to avoid your land in the coming war? And, by the way, Omni-Tek recognizes only Newland city as 'neutral', so according to their reading, Borealis and Stret West Bank are all theirs. Remember Boss Ross saying that you're 'employees' that need to be 'brought back'? Does it ring a bell?

Don't misunderstand me. I do not want any of you to run to a store, pick a clan application form and join us. I'm only trying to warn you - one day, a friendly Omni-Tek official will knock at your door and hand you an application form for the corporation and he will have a rather ugly gun in the other hand which will help you towards the 'right' decision. Unless, well, unless you are ready to fight. Face facts: Omni-Tek is your enemy, the clans are not. The clans want freedom which includes your freedom. We do not take your homes, we do not want your land, we do not want to 'bring you back into the family'.

The choice, however, is yours. Neutral or not, one day you'll have to choose on which side you stand. If war comes like I fear it will, your only option to avoid war is to move off planet. And time is running out. Omni-Tek has no more to offer - their vision for the future is total control, including all sentient beings on this planet. Choose your life, choose freedom, or choose to live with an invisible chain around your neck in an invisible prison, always guarded and always watched. Or choose to stick your head into the sand and pretend that you're neutral and thus no one will harm you.