quitting= let game die

[Lostpacket]

Ya i hear all the MA's crying about being nerfed and ya its been a bit harsh, but quit cause u not the top of foodchain is like saying u really sucked and only were good at pvp when yer profession was unbalanced.

You dont have it as bad as other proffesions have it now or had in the past - I see non-GA fixers, MP's and other gimps still playing even tho they dont "pwn" anyone.

Get out there - lose yer title + get owned for a few months + wait for yer fix to come like the rest of us did/doing.

Or roll a trader. It appears they will never be nerfed.

[wamma]

If its your way of having fun. But right now i doupt any ma is having any fun pvping.And with NW its all about pvp.
So my point is if i'm not having fun at all in pvp there is simply noway i'll buy NW.
And no i wont pay for the joy of waiting like 6month for fix like many did,i prefere cancelling my account and wait for the eventual fix without paying every month.

[Shiftyr]

Originally posted by Lostpacket
Ya i hear all the MA's crying about being nerfed and ya its been a bit harsh, but quit cause u not the top of foodchain is like saying u really sucked and only were good at pvp when yer profession was unbalanced.


Me: First off MAs never been at the top of the food chain they're just extremely lower on it now.


You dont have it as bad as other proffesions have it now or had in the past - I see non-GA fixers, MP's and other gimps still playing even tho they dont "pwn" anyone.


Me: Second off non-GA fixers still own.

Get out there - lose yer title + get owned for a few months + wait for yer fix to come like the rest of us did/doing.

Or roll a trader. It appears they will never be nerfed.

[celestiness]

<~~~~ex pvp MA...least i retired with Novice..

but seriously..its is NOT fun to pvp as an MA anymore. since 14.6 i have died 12 times.and not won 1 fight..

MA was never the top of the pvp food chain...i would see we were at the upper middle..lower top. I couldnt kill fixers, i couldnt kill docs, i couldnt kill traders (who can)..i was even with soldiers/enforcers and a good NT (gunnandahalf) could take me down w/out me doing 1 point of dmg to him...

if an agent was in fp soldier form..i was toast..if in fp trader form..i was maybe 40/60 to kill him.

in mass pvp i was super susceptable to roots, snares and debuffs and alphas (like everyone).

but it was fun..i won more then i lost..but i did lose..if not..after over a year of pvp..why am i still novice?

i worked hard on that novice...1 on 1 vs omni...mas pvp vs omni....zoning..standing ground...killing..dying..running...chasing..i did it all. and i stayed near the top...

its a long long fall from having fun and being decent at pvp to go to near the bottom at pvp.

i put up with min dmg bug for 6 months...put up with inta kills for 4 months...put up with poor dmg cept crits...still do...put up with no bow buffs..still do, put up with no decent way to deal with roots..still do and now its worse...

but i worked around all that..but there is no work-a-round on these pvp nerfs to the MA proffession. If i had any IPR points left..i would maybe go all manex and brawl/dimach only or something along those lines..or go SG..just to maybe have fun again..

but when an enf, trader, agent, nt, doc, mp, soldier who is 20-40 lvls below me.can kill me now...its time to retire and play something else that is fun.

[____________Infamine]

Not that i dont like MAs, not that i like the crit nerf but when you say your even with a soldier/NT/Enf theres a problem, they suppose to be at the top of the food chain but ... well nm ima gonna go back to UT were its about skill not balance

[Razzitazz]

MA's were so damn overpowered Im so glad they got cut down to size.

However, its silly that I can easily choose to fight a MA over an enforcer because the MA is far less of a challenge.

The answer is not in the crits, lowering crits was a great idea. Maybe shortening the recharge on heals some or some other idea. A martial artist should be a very, very, very deadly foe in head to head combat at high levels. Even more then enforcers IMHO.

[Sealdy]

Originally posted by Piercingevil
MA's were so damn overpowered Im so glad they got cut down to size.

What crack were you just now smoking PEvil? On my NT I owned most MA's. Crown frost took away any 170 or below MA's Enlightened Healing Aura. My constant chain roots would keep them in place. I could nulity/recast absorb several times and most MA's could barely touch me. I fought on FULL deff (like you know to) and hardly took any damage. Only time an MA would begin to hurt me was when he'd crit.... and that wasn't often enough.

Now playing on the Enf. I'd own MA's. Mongo is a better heal than anything the MA has (excluding FoL since it can only be used once). Simply put, I'd pound the ever love'n piss out of the MA faster than he could crit me/heal himself.

Now on my Trader. Pfft. Land 2 Deprives... good night sweetheart. (you know this personally )

and the list goes on and on....

People who say MA's were too overpowered ARE NOT in the top % of pvp'ers out there. Crits got nerf'd, hurt everybody. I'm happy with it actually. I'd like to see our fist damage improve.

Make Soldiers/Enfs the top dogs, give MA's at least better fist damage, and may the NT's furry rip all GA Fixers a new arsh.

*huggles*

[Sunraven]

Piercing how can you say MA were overpowered in PvP ROFLOL. Only way I can see is those using River 6 and an ELLTS.

Funny how some people hate MA's so much. Bet you hated us when we always did minimum damage too. Guess you thought we shouldn't have gotten any love at all. Seeing some peoples glee at how nerfed MA's are now makes me sick. How would you like it if NT's nukes were made to always do 200 damage, roots didn't work at all, and NS was removed from the game. Would you be happy or would you complain like the MA's are doing now?

[Razzitazz]

No no, I don't hate MA's. And I think they are hurting really badly now.

However, before all the recent patches that gave love to soldiers, and the love was given to MA's, they were uber as hell in pvp. Beating soliders, beating enforcers, traders, you name it.

Now they are severly ****ed. I never, ever wanted anything changed about a MA. MA should be devestating in PvP at high levels, why dont' you go read my others posts about how I think they were hurt real bad.

MA's, at one time, were very very uber in PvP. I never asked once to get them nerfed, because all they did was dish out damage. They never crippled other people like traders did.

Don't start telling me that I hated MA's. MA's are a perfect example of how a nerf can truely hurt a profession. But also a perfect example of how people get sick of an overpowered one.

[Sealdy]

Originally posted by Piercingevil
No no, I don't hate MA's. And I think they are hurting really badly now.

However, before all the recent patches that gave love to soldiers, and the love was given to MA's, they were uber as hell in pvp. Beating soliders, beating enforcers, traders, you name it.

Once again, where are you getting this Pevil? Because Johiyat ownz half of Rubika, you say we owned all those profs? *LAUGH*

Most MA's were inept, and now are even worse. Now even skilled Joh cant even duel, thats how bad it is.

Originally posted by Piercingevil
MA's were so damn overpowered Im so glad they got cut down to size.

You got what you wished for. NOW NERF NT'S CUZ GUNN'S TOO UBA!

*huggles*

[_________Trader Doug]

Seems like piercing evil just wants to nerf eveyone else who has ever killed him.

[Razzitazz]

Originally posted by Trader Doug
Seems like piercing evil just wants to nerf eveyone else who has ever killed him.

First of all, I'll duel you any time you want. I never run, ill duel anyone, and I don't care about dying. Ask anyone who knows me and they will agree.

And no, its about balance. I think the fact that the new NT nukes that kill fixers are complete bull****. All I am saying is after some patch, don't remember which, everyone rolled a MA, cause they were very uber in pvp.

Now, however, they are gimped. They need love. Hell give them love before NT's get love, I don't care.

Balance this game out, I don't want nerfs, unless they are necessary. A lvl 60 engy with a lvl 200 bot. Unbalanced. A lvl 120 trader owning a lvl 200 soldier. Unbalanced. A lvl 120 doc killing a lvl 200 enforcer when crits were 100%. Unbalanced.

[Sealdy]

Originally posted by Piercingevil
First of all, I'll duel you any time you want. I never run, ill duel anyone, and I don't care about dying. Ask anyone who knows me and they will agree.

Pevil's right. She NEVER runs. well at least against me she's never had a reason to

Originally posted by Piercingevil
Balance this game out, I don't want nerfs, unless they are necessary. A lvl 60 engy with a lvl 200 bot. Unbalanced. A lvl 120 trader owning a lvl 200 soldier. Unbalanced. A lvl 120 doc killing a lvl 200 enforcer when crits were 100%. Unbalanced.

Amen brother Pevil, preech on! hear ye!

Thats the one thing FC doesn't understand, fix... dont nerf.

[Razzitazz]

Its funny too, in beta I played a MA up to the big level of 50 or so. I played her because i thought it would be hard but at high levels who the hell can beat a well trained MA. Then I rolled pierce thinking at high levels who can beat a well trained mage.

I guess I was wrong on both counts.

[Shadelore]

MA was never too good, they was just ok fun to play, and even opponets for us in the middle of the tree, dunno about the demigod proffs, since I never played one of those....

But nerfing MA was totally uncalled for..

[Razzitazz]

Like I said, MA's had gotten something, either when their damage was upped or whatever, that made everyone roll a MA. Tons of Novice MA's came about, then they started upping other professions. But this was before the EQB and the Hellspinner and the new this and that. But when half of the game rolls a profession to be uber in PvP, I'm glad to see them cut down to size, not blow size, not nerfed to unplayability, but down to the size of everyone else.

[bbar]

Originally posted by Wren "Stongrel" Warren


>> and may the NT's furry rip all GA Fixers a new arsh.

hahahahaha
love that statement

-bb

[______________Zindel]

Incase you were confused or didn't know

Go make an MA and read the charater description.

DEALS THE MOST RAW DAMAGE

I'm just waiting for Funcom to fix us like they normaly fix everything else......change the description :P

[Razzitazz]

Don't believe that:

Hows this for BS

The Nano-Technician is a highly specialised profession focused on one thing; dealing the most amount of damage to the target in the shortest amount of time

[Sealdy]

Originally posted by Piercingevil
Like I said, MA's had gotten something, either when their damage was upped or whatever, that made everyone roll a MA.

Ok class, pull out your "Bibles of PvP" and open to Kung-fu 3:13. MA's did not get a god damn thing. Where in god's name did you get this crap? No offense Pevil, you know I love you, but I hear more bullsh*t in these forums than a Televanglist on Sunday morning public TV. DAMAGE GOT CUT IN HALF 50%. CRITS DID NOT. Thus slightly, and I mean slightly, making MA's have an advantage due to the fact they're the most crit reliant proffession.

Not all MA's were "uber" by any means. I even explained to you in tells how certain MA's were ruling the pvp scene. UVC, Kali, Scope, GoC (on some MA's) = some MA's crit'ing over half the hits.

Instead of NERF'n MA's, Funcom should have:
1) Make scopes non-melee. (I would even accept a "can not be MA" tag)
2) UVC, Kali self only. (WOW Funcom actually got this right)
3) Up fist damage. (nerf crits is fine by me, hurts everyone, but when you dont compensate our fist damage, you make us about as pvp viable as a wad of toilet paper)
4) Give MA's a bow they can actually equip, and none of this max ql of 181 crap. I'm fine with roots, but give MA's a chance, a CHANCE.

Originally posted by Piercingevil
I'm glad to see them cut down to size, not blow size, not nerfed to unplayability, but down to the size of everyone else.

Not even engi's will wipe their own arshes with us MA's.