People seem to value pppe hard over soft.. why?

**Wobble** · Nov 20th, 2002, 12:28:25

Going by the exchange forum, it seems that people think the pppe hard is more valuable than the pppe soft, AFAIK hard is just for carbonum. Where as with soft you can make Bronto, dragon, flesh hood and metallic mantis.

Am I missing something?

the world is flooded with carbonum.

**dypfryst** · Nov 20th, 2002, 13:20:00

I think it may have something to do with the costumers...
it's way easyer to get hold of carbon plates than any of the other
armor types.
so therfore more that choose carbon.
and it has some okey stats also. except for rad/energy...

**Elbo** · Nov 20th, 2002, 15:28:52

Lets not forget. Carbon armor adds NCU's which is badly needed for MA's etc at lower levels. Also figuring the requirements to wear a certain level can be figured pretty exact. No extra IP wasted.

**Krabbus** · Nov 20th, 2002, 18:12:27

hmm, isn't Hard PPPE used for Large Patch of Hard Bronto hide etc? All hard parts?

**Elbo** · Nov 20th, 2002, 18:19:33

Nope. Hide's from animals = soft

**Sparkyd** · Nov 20th, 2002, 19:46:22

Shape Hard can also make CAS/Trader armour, as well as Notum Saturated Armour too..

**cold** · Nov 20th, 2002, 19:54:18

CAS/Barter armor needs no PPPE at all =)

**Elbo** · Nov 20th, 2002, 21:10:57

OK....

Saturated notum armor isnt found in the game yet is it?

Also CAS armor requires only chemistry and 2 notum chips and some graft/organic armor and some tube thingy..

No PPPE required.

**cold** · Nov 20th, 2002, 21:28:30

It also requires nanoprogramming for activating the nanobots, not sure what is needed for stabilizing, pharma tech ?

Saturated armor should be here soon, I've seen it on Notum Wars screenshots

**Krabbus** · Nov 20th, 2002, 21:35:46

no need for pharma when making CAS. Think the skills required is 1xQL in NP and 4.5xQL in Chem

**secondkenlon** · Nov 21st, 2002, 04:49:44

Soft PPE is used for the extremely sexy Thick Flesh Hood though.

Thick Flesh PWNS.

**cold** · Nov 21st, 2002, 09:20:49

4.5x chem is correct...but NPing is a bit more, something like 3.5x

**Krabbus** · Nov 21st, 2002, 10:35:36

Originally posted by cold
4.5x chem is correct...but NPing is a bit more, something like 3.5x

Hmm, it is 1xQL in NP when assembling it to the Organic/Graft armor.

But putting notums into the liquid nanobots can be 3.5xQL in NP

**__________THEDEACON!** · Nov 22nd, 2002, 01:15:59

Originally posted by Wobble
Going by the exchange forum, it seems that people think the pppe hard is more valuable than the pppe soft

Well it's---ahh, never mind. That joke is too obvious, even for me

**Sparkyd** · Nov 22nd, 2002, 07:03:18

PPPE Hard makes the Metallic Mantis Armour too I think

**Warlock** · Nov 22nd, 2002, 13:39:06

Because its harder than soft therefore it must be more uber :-)

**dypfryst** · Nov 22nd, 2002, 20:55:52

Originally posted by Sparkyd
PPPE Hard makes the Metallic Mantis Armour too I think

no that is Soft also...

the thing is.. when the PPPE first came the only thing you could
make was carbon and bronto...

since carbon was easyer to get, and the fact that nano init, max
nano and NCU got upped by it made ppl chose that istead of
bronto that had better AC but only maxed nano..

Most ppl that got bronto did it to use something that looked
a bit diffrent.. also the bronto chest as far as I know is still not ingame..

still carbon is popular by by low/mid lvl ppl... and that prolly
make it more wanted..

**Yakuza** · Nov 30th, 2002, 23:08:42

Originally posted by Elbo
Saturated notum armor isnt found in the game yet is it?

Notum saturated metaplast has been found, but only up to ql100. Drops in missions not sure if it's boss only, I think you can find in chests too.

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