OTSEC Demand Council of Ares Surrender Military-Grade Weapons

[Jynne]

Originally posted by Alamexis
((I was wondering when you'd pop in here Blix...you made me edit this post just when I finished it...))

What I find most surprising at present is that we have yet to receive an official reaction from the other "interested parties" involved in this dispute. Even ancillary organizations such as Unity of the Rose and (reference to Desert Winds deleted) have yet to make an appearance to comment on this turn of events. So far, we've essentially heard only from OTRK personnel.

Unity of the Rose is not a member of the Council of Ares, nor are we their allies or supporters. Neither are we, obviously enough, allies or supporters of OTSEC.

Since this is a communication between OTSEC and the CoA, and is not addressed to independent Clans such as my own, I don't see any reason we should become officially involved at this point.

On a strictly personal level, I feel that this may be an unwise move by OTSEC for several reasons, but only time will tell.

[Metalynx]

Ahh thanks Bone...im glad to see that you still have a inability to post an answer that isnt insulting.


And hey Miester....try getting a few screenshots eh? A news article is awefully pretty...but a picture s worth a thousand words. And Fool can type up a nifty news article, apend it with a few references to peopel supposedly there and attempt at posting it as reality.

Me...im a cynic. I want pictures. Get some Pictures of these "Terrorist Raids". Might be interesting viewing, and if they were pupblished it might actually make the public want to get rid of terroists. Its not hard...just hit that little f12 key...

[Tax]

Umm I was there when it happened...and when i got there the jug went down 5 times.


Temp

And i dont have pics due to me having to reload AO ....damn stupid puter......

[Andross]

Hmm today we prevented CoA attacking Omni-1 and the Juggernaut in Lush Fields. The Juggernaut was simply evacuated from the outpost to a secure area and Omni-1 had all entrances secured with Omni-Pol forces, so entering was impossible. Afterwards we had a patrol in Tir, searching for "Hatchet" who was responsible for the whole attack today.. but alas.. we didnt find him and had to leave without any prisoners. Maybe next time we will get hold of him

[Windguaerd]

Hatchet and his organization is not in the CoA.

Try again Meister.

[Daimoness]

Alamexis, to quote some of your nonsense:

"But will sanity prevail? Will you comply with these demands (which are also, unfortunately, unwavering and entrenched, notwithstanding reason or logic), or will you resist and force us all into another civil war?"

Sanity has long yet faded from whatever is beneath your skull that you use instead of a brain. I am left with no other possibility to judge the "demands" you made and your complimentary comments on that.

"Although I wish I could say otherwise, undoubtedly you are sounding the calls to war."

The CoA has abstained from offensive actions roughly two weeks ago, so stop pushing this. All your demands beyond that point are laughable and will be considered just that. If you want to push us into war, don't blame us for that.

And as for you, Bonefish, "Omni-Tek are the legally bound leaseholders of this planet, Rubi-Ka. What does, or does not happen here, is the Corporation's business alone." This is true - but only for those areas you have been appointed to by the Tir Accords. What we do within the clan territory is solely at our own discretion. Stick your head into our affairs and we're going to punch it off.

If you want to argue on the line that the Tir Accord is void and null, I'd like to show you where this can end with the same logic: The Tir Accord also restricts us to our territory. Without it, we could claim the whole planet just as you do. How about we start massacring your population by the thousands? But we don't do that, because we believe that those poor people that are doomed to be commanded by people like you are punished enough with being alive. They will cheer on the day you and your bunch of corporate bootlickers are finally thrown off this planet.

Mr. Charles, you said about the CoA: "Suddenly claiming they will start behaveing and only look towards the future overnight isn't convinceing anyone either." As the politician you claim to be, you should know very well that there is a difference between an alliance comprised of a multitude of organizations and a single clan, even in terms of political action. If I were not able to distinguish that, I had never voiced anything about peace and had instead advocated the purging of this planet from your corporation's presence.

The past is filled with errors and wrongdoings on all parts. As long as we are constrained in the perpetual circle of mutual accusations, we won't make any progress. Only if we can decide to learn from past errors and really try to cooperate will we be able to achieve a peace on this planet. By pointing fingers you do your part so that peace is to be avoided, but that is sadly all too much in accordance with your past actions. While you seem to propagate peace, you try to incite a war in between the clans.

[____________Bonefish]

Daimoness,

The Tir Accord is invalid. However, let us assume for the sake of argument that it is not. I quote from the Tir Accord itself.

Interstellar Confederation of Corporations (ICC),
Dept. Of Colonial Affairs.

Summary of the Tir Accord Ceasefire Agreement on Rubi-Ka between the Omni-Tek Corporation (leaseholders of Rubi-Ka, and henceforth referred to as Omni-Tek) and the Council of Truth (governing body of the united, independent clans of Rubi-Ka, and henceforth referred to as the Council)

Fact Sheet Released by the Office of the Spokesperson, July 5th 29470

The Tir Accord talks culminated in a Framework Agreement for a ceasefire between the two disputing parties of Omni-Tek and the Council. Agents for the ICC initiated and witnessed the signing of the Accord.

You will note that the Tir Accord was a treaty between Omni-Tek and the Council of Truth. The Council of Truth no longer exists.

You are not the Council of Truth. You are the Council of Ares - an aggressive militant warlike coalition initially founded for all intended purposes to overthrow and bring down the Council of Truth.

If you want to argue on the line that the Tir Accord is void and null, I'd like to show you where this can end with the same logic: The Tir Accord also restricts us to our territory. Without it, we could claim the whole planet just as you do.

Except that you would be claiming it falsely - it is not yours to claim. You have no legal grounds.

How about we start massacring your population by the thousands?

How very clan. How very Council of Ares.

But we don't do that, because we believe that those poor people that are doomed to be commanded by people like you are punished enough with being alive. They will cheer on the day you and your bunch of corporate bootlickers are finally thrown off this planet.

I grow weary of repeating this.

Omni-Tek is a job. It is a career. It is a choice. It is not slavery. Omni-Tek is not a nationality.

If I chose to stop working for the corporation, it is my choice to do so. I would be expected to pack my belongings, leave my company-provided apartment, and leave the planet. I would do so. Then I would retire. If I were younger, I would seek employment on another planet, with another company.

What I would not do is say, "I do not wish to work for Omni-Tek anymore, and furthermore, this house is now mine, and this land is now mine. I do not care if it legally belongs to Omni-Tek, it is mine now, and if you attempt to take it away from me I will fight back. In-fact, I am going to start attacking you now, just in-case you try to take it back at some point in the future."

Because that is all lunacy.

Omni-Tek is a job. It is a career. It is a choice. It is not slavery. Omni-Tek is not a nationality.

If you do not wish to work for the corporation - you are free to leave. Everyone is. And some even do. There is no slavery, there is no jackboot. There is no forced labour. There is simply choice.

Choose to work for the corporation on it's legally leased and owned world - or leave. You are free to go at any time.

Oh... you do not want to? You will take up arms and forcefully attempt to take from others that which is not yours? Hmm?

I rest my case. You force our hand...


Omni-Tek protects.


Strength through unity.


Garret "Bonefish" Silvestrini
Director - SPARTA
Chairman of the Omni-Tek Security Council

Founding Member of the Omni-Tek Security Council (OTSEC)

The Omni-Tek Security Council is dedicated to ensuring the company’s security and interests against all threats, coordinating any action deemed necessary to protect corporate assets and personnel.

garret.silvestrini@ot-sparta.org | www.ot-sparta.org

[Daimoness]

It seems like OTSEC is in desperate need for an enemy to justify its very existence. As you grow weary of repeating things, so do I. That's why I consider every discussion with you futile. If you want to embark on war, so may it be. Don't try to push the blame on us if you and your men are attacking us like they did.

You consider the Tir Accord invalid. Legally, the CoT acted on our behalf, so as we are still here, the Tir Accord could still be used as a basis for peace. You don't seem to want that, so I must again presume you don't want to negotiate peace. You want your war, and so the wheel will turn once more. OTSEC, feel free to come and "reclaim" your territory. We have a bullet for each of you. Yes, you will reclaim ....

But you have a choice. Choose to stay on your ground, and we will stay on ours. That's what I could call peace. Come to take what's ours and you have war. Your war, not ours. We will not attack you, cause we would win nothing with it, as we are content with what we have.

"You are the Council of Ares - an aggressive militant warlike coalition initially founded for all intended purposes to overthrow and bring down the Council of Truth." Where do you live? Obviously not in this reality, else you would not blatantly spread lies as this one.

The Council of Truth pretty much disbanded itself. The old CoA had neither the intention nor the means to overthrow it. The demand was "action", nothing more. Now the CoA is here to provide means of military protection to the members and other clans that request our aid. Protection from people like OTSEC that think we clanners are just criminals that need to be pushed out of the territory you claim to be yours.

For me, this has proven fruitless. Instead of a future, I keep hearing from the past. As for now, I fail to hear anything from Omni-Tek about a possible future besides "reclaiming" and "demands". You demand a lot, what do you have to offer? Protection? If you have any serious offer, contact me, I won't waste my time here with discussions like these.

Lt. Corrine 'Daimoness' Wright
Mercury Dragons =CoA=

[Jynne]

Bonefish,

I'll remind you that Omni-Tek's inhuman and oppressive treatment of their own workers was what gave rise to the Clan movement. While working for Omni-Tek may be a choice for such people as you, in your office with a comm-link to Philip Ross, those miners had no such choice. As your employer so succinctly put it at the time, "They are only atrox."

When they wanted improved workplace safety and higher wages, armed soldiers were moved in instead, moved in with orders to take away their choices. Instead, they fought - and took their choices back.

We are their descendents, and while neither we ourselves nor the world the first Clans made for us are perfect, that world is no longer your exclusive property in anything but a technicality that even the ICC will not enforce.

Many Clanners do not support attacks on Omni-Tek interests. Many of us realize that such provocation will only drag the world into a Hell of fire and iron and blood, a place where no reasonable person wants to go.

But I warn you, we will defend our homes. Be wary of the ground where you are walking.

[_____________Hirunda]

Hirunda scanned the grid feeds, sighing.

Boney was at it again, but she detected a sincerity in the statement "I grow weary of repeating this." Something she remembered both Lt Daimoness and Colonel Sambika saying at various points.

What was it again?

1) The current COA is not the same organisation as the previous one of that name.

2) The COA is a military alliance formed to defend members of the Clans against Omni Tek in the face of them tearing up the Tir accord.

3) The COA does not want to take over leadership of the Clans.

4) The COA is willing to defend any Clanners that require aid.

She could only conclude that Boney actually believed what he was saying. She was amazed that OT was so able to hide things from other parts of itself. Individuality of parts was something normally associated with the Clans.

Those fleeing slavery or victims of unwilling experiments, they came among the Clans frequently, seeking shelter and aid.

Previously loyal security and medical staff who uncovered things they couldn't bear to know.... all this went on and more....

Yet still he could make his announcements and appeals with such confidence. Perhaps Sol Banking were not the only ones who liked to mess about with the minds of their employees...

Hirunda shuddered. A flashback of diving through a blackhole into a room of blinding white light and boundless pain tore along her nerves and was gone.

She looked around her dark rusted apartment enjoying pain free moments before glancing back at her screen.

Perhaps she was blinded by the obvious and he was just a very good liar?

Severely conditioned employees, careful information hiding or expert liars it made little practical difference to the expected content of most OT grid feed announcements.

Hirunda turned off the grid feed and went to lie down on her pallet, she needed to rest for a while.

[____________Bonefish]

Unsurprisingly, the Mercury Dragons simply don't want to listen to reason.

Originally posted by Bonefish, 13:30 November 11, 29476 RST
The time for talk is now over. The time for clan commanders such as Redruum and Windguaerd to act responsibly and have their forces stand down is at hand. Only Council of Ares commanders such as these can halt the escalation in violence that at least we want to avoid.

That is not, and has not happened.

Originally posted by Bonefish, 13:30 November 11, 29476 RST
6. These resolutions are unconditional and demand full and immediate compliance. Failure to do so will give the Security Council no reasonable option other than to disarm those Council of Ares clans forcefully, and without further warning.

Omni-Tek protects.

Strength through unity.


Garret "Bonefish" Silvestrini
Director - SPARTA
Chairman of the Omni-Tek Security Council

Founding Member of the Omni-Tek Security Council (OTSEC)

The Omni-Tek Security Council is dedicated to ensuring the company’s security and interests against all threats, coordinating any action deemed necessary to protect corporate assets and personnel.

garret.silvestrini@ot-sparta.org | www.ot-sparta.org

[Windguaerd]

In response to the "Omni-Tek Security Council Resolution OTSEC/R-001" issued November 11 in the year 29476 I Windguaerd Wagner, Commander and Clan Leader of Mercury Dragons Clan and member of The Council of Ares issue the following:

1. All Council of Ares clans and members will NOT surrender ANY weaponry. You DEMAND we surrender weapons we use in self defense and in defense of our people. If you believe we consider Omni-Tek as the only threat to the clans, you are mistaken. Mutants, Cyborgs and our recent declaration of war against Dust Brigade gives us more than enough reason to be armed at all times.

2. We will not report or register any weapons with the Security Council's investigative teams as per your second DEMAND. Any Clan Leader with common sense can see you're trying to asses our defenses, and I think it's not for our benefit you acquire such information.

3. All Council of Ares clans will remain on military readiness and continue their training to continue the protection of clan citizens and clan territory. CoA has already decided against striking against Omni-Tek Military and Mining Facilities with the exception that IF we are attacked first, we will counterstrike in any way we see fit. We will not target civilians unless they fire first.

4. All Council of Ares clans will NOT accept Security Council investigative teams in Clan territory. Any OTSEC teams found in Clan territory will be considered to be tresspasers and hostile. OTSEC teams will be escorted peacefully (if possible) to the borders of Omni-Tek territory.

Any attempts to disarm Council of Ares clans forcefully will be met with resistance.

I quote Mr. Silvestrini:

"The time for talk is now over."

Indeed the time for talk is over, with OTSEC making DEMANDS to disarm any clan they consider a threat to their Corporation's agenda to reclaim territory which centuries ago was their and that is now ours (paid with the blood of our people during 3 wars) there is little to no room to talk to them.

CoA is not political, we're not a goverment, we're not CoT or represent the clans as a whole like CoT did.

We're military, we're a Defense Force Coalition of Clans, and we shall defend ALL clans against any attacks or threats against them be it Cyborgs, Mutants, Dust Brigade or Omni-Tek.

So Mr. Chairman, sit on your chair in Omni-1, and stay in your nice office and stop making DEMANDS which you neither have the right to make, or the authority to enforce.

[Nevver]

This is quickly turning into a shoving match that neither side is going to win. It will be tit for tat with one side hitting then the other until it escalates into one big mess that nobody wants. OTSEC must realize that the COA needs to be armed against the other threats that it faces (Cyborgs, Dust Brigade, etc.). Threatening them and disarming them will only cause more bad feelings and leave them defenseless against their other enemies. There has to be a better way to resolve this.

[Andross]

The demands of the CoA being disarmed have been made after the CoA has attacked Omni-Tek on numerous occassions. Just like the Dust Brigade has attacked OT, Neutrals and Clan alike and are now armed against those who attack them, Omni-Tek might attack the CoA since the CoA attacked Omni-Tek. The one being on defense here is Omni-Tek against CoA, not the other way around.

That you might need to be armed against cyborgs, mutants or the Dust Brigade is understandable, yet your attacks on Omni-Tek prior to this are the sole reason this resolution was passed in the council and which we intend to enforce if neccessary. Thinking prior to acting is a good advice in many cases, such as this one. You attack Omni-Tek, Omni-Tek defends and if neccessary acts pre-emptive to avoid future attacks on corporate property.

If you fail to follow the demands set by OTSEC, you will be forced to follow them. For now you have the chance to do this without bloodshed. Should the need to force CoA to disarm themselves arise, blood will be shed and it will be you who is responsible for the lost lives - of Clan members and possibly Omni-Tek employees alike.

On a sidenote, the ICC is there to protect you in your cities. The Dust Brigade should be a concern of the ICC, not yours to defend against. If the Dust Brigade is a problem for the clans right now, complain to the ICC. If you want Omni-Tek to protect you, join the corporation - which will most certainly not happen.

[Cyberwrench]

Time to play Devil's Advocate, No pun intended.

First off, I don't much care for the CoA. I have seen far too many members of that group judging other Clans because they wish to do something other than fight. Including saying they're not clanners for not wanting to fight. CAS members being in the majority of the people in CoA and the majority of those talking bad of other clans, so it sure points me in the direction of believing the OTSEC claims of the CoA being something other than a defensive force are true.

Now on the other hand, I can also understand the CoA not wanting to give up their weapons. Omni-Tek has, in the past, used events similar to this to start a new Civil War. Now I damn sure wouldn't let anyone take my guns unless I wanted to see the past repeated.

Both sides are acting like children in a schoolyard though. Each is trying to make themselves out to be the best or biggest bully around. Now events in the past have happened that make each side look in the wrong, that should not be forgotten. What should happen is that each side to come to an agreement to hold of on any offensive actions against the other side. Now if Omni invade Tir in force and start harassing the citizens there and waving their guns around, all I have to say is duck and/or run for you lives cause I hope the CoA comes down on you like a horde of rabid leets. Now if members of the CoA started doing the same in Omni-1, I'd fully expect OTSEC to drop on them and not let up till they're greasy smears on a building or the ground.

Each side should fully expect that if they enter the others land they are on hostile ground, that if they show any hostility they are gonna get slapped around till they wake up at reclaim. They should not expect to walk into the others lands, yes I do accept the Clans claim to their lands for many reasons, and act like they own the place. Just plain stupid.

If both sides want to end the constant arguing and fighting between them they are going to have to drag their butts to a table and get talking.....You ain't gonna solve the problem by hurling demands at each other.

Diplomacy.

I am Omni, and I don't agree with everything the Corporation does, but I do still think the corporation has a right to conduct business here. I don't want the Clans or Omni-Tek gone. What I want is for people to knock some of the mud out their ears and cut back on the stims so they can deal with the problem like adults instead of children.

This planet is plenty big enough for Omni-Tek and The Clans to coexist and when each side figures that little part out, everyone will be happy, or not. Lots of folks would be upset cause they don't get to shoot people full of holes for no reason whatsoever.

[Razorbak133]

Well, I will say right off that I am not on CoA but I am clan. I don't care much for politics but I will defend myself. I will also defend any clanner who is attacked on clan territory. I can understand OTSEC and the frustration they feel about the attacks. I could also point out that Omni-Tek and various employees have instigated a number of hostilities, but I will not since we could be here all night finding excuses for each bit of hostility.
Instead, I suggest both sides try wiping the "who did what" talley board clean and start fresh. Try to come to an understanding and cooperate. Just cause Omni-Tek might have purchased the right to use the planet does not mean they have the right to use and abuse everyone there and treat them as slaves. We can see the results of what happened when they did. The Clans were born and we are here to stay. Just get use to the fact that we are here.

Oh, and if Omni -Tek desides it is easier to shoot then to talk, I got a shotgun and a whole lot of ammo waiting. I have no problems with shooting anyone or anything that tries to take our lands.


Long live the Clans! Long live the Fighters!

[Fixerben]

Well my misinformed friends. It seems once again I must reiterate the CoA's mission statement. Let me get it out of my recent documents folder, since I use it all the time as not a single person has a clue what we are all about except Hirunda. And Hirunda I thank you profusely for defending our position. In any case here is the CoA's mission statement:

The mission of the CoA is to protect the Clans until a time when a proper government is established. The CoA does not want to govern the clans in any form. Only to protect the common freedoms that we all share, and are threatened by OmniTek. At such a time that a new Clan Government is established and the CoA is ordered to disband, we will immediately comply. We are here to protect the clans and want nothing in return."

So scream we are terrorists as you may, we will not stoop to that level. We will remain vigilant(ooc: We will hunt robots lol). Try and try as you may, you can not discredit the CoA. We are here to instill pride in the hearts of the Clansmen. To be a light for them to follow in the dark times you bring upon us.

[Kithraks]

Dark times? I have yet to settle my insurance claims due to a past unprovoked attack by CAS attack on 4-holes. A member clan of the CoA.

Only three weeks ago, the CoA "was" and possibly might still be a terrorist organization at this time. Do not pretend you can just wave away your own recent actions by saying you have a new agenda now.

[Fixerben]

Kithrak, I am not waving any past actions, but as I said before I was not involved in them. The CoA is a totally new organization at the moment with a more moderate stand point. I would be glad to discuss this with you in game if you would like to send me a tell.

[Kithraks]

You effectively are waiveing any and all past actions. Not being present at the time do not make you responsible, but the organization, CoA still is. Going around publically trying to claim they are no longer responsible only because you weren't involved do not work the other way around.

Same old name, same management, same clans, BUT completely different and have nothing to do with the old name, recent actions, basically same management and clans. Small wonder you are having such a diffcult time convinceing everyone but yourselves that you are different.