Spawn a new wave as soon as all mobs from current wave are dead, fixed! Also apply to city / ship boss room as a bonus. Michi? :-)
Spawn a new wave as soon as all mobs from current wave are dead, fixed! Also apply to city / ship boss room as a bonus. Michi? :-)
Don't you just hate this kind of ppl
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/w...rouscranus.htm
As well i just did an old inf hard and compared to the new inf hards the old ones can give nearly double the sk per mob, plus theres more of them. And plus i do old inf hards in 25 minutes, the new ones take min 50 mins to an hour cause of the slow respawn. Which makes the new easies the only ones even remotely worth doing. For research instead of leveling its even worse.
As it stands old inf missions are still much better experience for the time invested. Really would like this fixed.
Side note: I understand the new loot is pretty nice but you cannot trade good loot for reduced experience in a made for leveling zone. Id easily trade in all of the loot for a leveling experience that is faster than the old ones, as well as more pleasant.
Last edited by Adeptall2; Nov 14th, 2014 at 10:19:40.
Yeah. It's not just about XP-rate so, but value of gameplay.
They should make missions for better level-ranges. Like this;
- Easy to 170-204,
- Medium to 205-214
- hard to 215-220.
This way it's more fun for us (even with hard mobs a 218 player will make it easy for a 205) and easier to make for FC.
Loot could be worked more cleverly on. Plz, high ql clusters, imps, stimulants, towers and midlevel-nanos.
Or, getting xp-part = fast and easy. Getting loot-reward = harder and more timeconsuming.
Shoulda just dropped symbs/imps/clusters.
But people are skipping content and just get DB-nanos/some essential rk-nanos anyway
There is already dailies tho. lol, too lazeh to make soloversions
Last edited by Cyberleet; Nov 14th, 2014 at 10:50:09.
Again, Cyberleet seems to have no concept of what that would really bring population-wise (no teams due no not enough people in most ranges).
Check my post in the other thread you've hijacked to suggest the exact same thing for why it most likely wouldn't work.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
So.. segregating level ranges and limiting the already scarce population's pool for teaming brings more teams? How?
EDIT: Some context:
I just logged on my 161 fixer and looked in LFT.
Current rules give me a total of 3 people I can team with.
Your rules give me a total of 1 person I can team with. (froob though, rk mishes only)
This is what's wrong with it.
Last edited by DigitalBath; Nov 14th, 2014 at 10:51:45.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
Why can't you team with people in your range in Ado or Pen? Maybe cause all go to inf and team with 220?
But...my rules are not implemented
U got 2 understand that nerfing something while offering a compensation will change playerbehaviour. I am not sure how it is in certain levelranges. Is it so that kitespots often are occupied? So it is enough 2 team with all the time?
Last edited by Cyberleet; Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:02:00.
You're not getting it.
Realistically, there are not enough people in your proposed level range. It doesn't matter where they are right now or if they're going to inf or staying in ado/pen. There are none! Your solution would make it harder for people to get teams!
LFT is global and I'm a neutral so I can team with anyone I want to. Your solution would make me unable to get more than 1 person (the froob I mentioned) instead of getting 4 people and just needing 2 more for a full team.
Yours is worse.
Please understand that.
Because there aren't enough people online in your proposed level range in most timezones for even 1 team. I am one of the old school idiots that still does adonis hecks until 180 if I find people doing it. But it's brutally rare. The best you usually get in ado is a 220 OST and his 1-2 alts.. and then you join in to help DD. I have had some exceptions to this lately but they're few and far between because there's just not enough people 140-180 to justify it.Originally Posted by Cyberleet
And I'm glad they're not likely to ever be implemented as they are bad for the current population / levels split.Originally Posted by Cyberleet
Last edited by DigitalBath; Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:03:16.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
I think it will be similar changes and it would be for the better.
And this is where we disagree. It would be enough 2 play with in my estimation.
I think it will make it easier for people to get teams within their range.
Wait to see lft after it is implemented. The change from how it was will improve I think.
No u.
The difference between us is that I back my statements with real-world data. I log in and check who's on and who's lft in several ranges.
You dream and make up estimations that won't be taken seriously (because they shouldn't).
This is the reason I'll stop arguing with you here. My point stands until you get any valid amount of data to back up your suggestion.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
I'm not predicting anything. I'm logging in and checking what would happen if your scenario was implemented. It's not the same thing.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
Agree with digital, cyber your ideas are horrible for the state of the game. Would be very detrimental.
There are NO people I could team with in your level range on LFT right now. Can't you get this? lol.
So.. nope... no waiting because I would be solo'ing (or duo'ing RK missions with the froob).
I should add that there are more active 220's than active levelers at any point in this game past 2006.
It's the nature of MMO's to have more active max level toons than levelers, it happens in all major titles from WoW to EQ to.. AO.
Last edited by DigitalBath; Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:18:25.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
Getting more content and more to play with within your own range would not be detrimental imo.
omfg...so it would be more 2 play with witin your range. Don't you get it?
Also:
if the kiteselling is a good buisness it is obviously enough 2 team with at other ranges aswell.
Last edited by Cyberleet; Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:19:55.
So the 1 froob I have to team with your rules with is more than the 4 people I have on the current rules?Originally Posted by Cyberleet
You might want to check that again.
EDIT: Kite selling is not that great business nowadays. You have a maximum of 12 people doing it at any point (in the main spot) and usually they are split between two of your proposed ranges so the lower one would likely not be able to team while the higher one would get 1 team and some spares. Guess what's gonna happen in the real world?
Btw, I have never leveled a character primarily through kiting and I'm around since 2003. I've kited spirits on my NT between 215 and 217 because back then the only alternative was inferno hecks (this was a really long time ago.. before spirit xp nerf, too) and I wanted a change of pace.. but it was a brief period.
Last edited by DigitalBath; Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:24:49.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie
have you checked what players within your your power-range are occupied with? We simply disagree. I don't think it would be a very noticable lack of players to team with even if the leveling-ranges was fixed. I think it would be slightly better infact and backed up my claims with facts. I also don't see anyone disagreing with how I think playing within your own range might produce a better gameplay-experience for most players. That is if they work a little more on loot-rewards tho.
They're occupied with being logged off. There aren't enough people 130-170 to form teams in most timezones. This was evident when the ely beach scene and ado heck scene started dying out, which came before inf missions were popular at 160. (back then a 160 in inf was uncommon and would rarely make it into a team, making the effort of getting there mostly wasted).
You're too close-minded to understand what's wrong with your suggestion. Gladly, I'm not the only one disagreeing here and you'll see, with time, how that suggestion will not be implemented.
Let's talk about it in a year.
Last edited by DigitalBath; Nov 14th, 2014 at 11:28:03.
Michizure is love, Michizure is life.
--
Dywas - 220/30/70 Neutral Nanomage Nano-Technician
Caramela - 220/30/70 Neutral Solitus Doctor
Desejos - 220/30/?? Neutral Atrox Enforcer
Gretchenross - 220/30/?? Neutral Opifex Shade
Bizzle - 220/30/70 Neutral Atrox Soldier
--<3 Professional love--
* Aiken pets Lazy on the head. Sure it is, you keep telling self that
<Aiken> such a cutesy clammer aren't you *cheekpinch*
<Lazy>
<Lazy> viva la revolucion
* Dywas decides to walk away from the soon-to-be sexytime
<Aiken> lol Dywas, Id make a man of him
<Lazy> Dywas, i'd go gay for aiken. no lie