My thread just dissappeared from Life on Rubi Ka !
I GOT NO WARRNING, no private msg, nothing ....
I only shared my thoughts about possibility of GMI exploit and latest inflation etc.
Below I copy/paste one of my post from 9 years ago, and replies from different moderators and GD (his nick was Cz)
Sorry it is long but it shows how things can be done.
I may get a warning this time
Awikun
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Re: please restore my post
Thread restored.
And thanks for discussing it with the moderator first, as they have strict guidelines regarding threads discussing exploits, and will normally remove such threads unless I say they shouldn't.
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Awi wrote on January 21st, 2004 20:24:01:
Hi Cz,
I would like to ask you to restore my post "Better GIMP than CHEATER". I believe that it would be beneficial for AO community to see it and voice their oppinion.
I enclose copies of PM/e-mails that I exchanged with Genevra and Meesoon.
Regards
Awikun
Re: Exploits
Yes you can do that. If you get Cz to restore it, the other posters comments would also be restored.
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Awi wrote on January 21st, 2004 10:34:01:
Whatever is easier.
Should I explain that it was cleared with Genevra and you in the start of the thread?
I do not think I should bother Cz, but I'll do whatever you think is better.
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Meesoon wrote on January 21st, 2004 17:46:01:
I can't restore it, only Cz could. I'll allow a repost if you explain that you have already cleared it with Generva and that we spoke about it. Or you could ask Cz to restore the whole thread, explaining the same things to him.
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Awi wrote on January 21st, 2004 09:32:01:
Hi again,
As I already explained that I was allowed by Genevra to post this thread, could you restore it please?
Or if it is not possible please give me a clear answer to the following question:
Can I post the same thread (exact copy) again?
Should I forget about this thread as it would be deleted again?
I want to admit that I do not want to be a trouble maker, and if for any reason / policy I should not post it again, just say so.
Regards
Awikun
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Meesoon wrote on January 21st, 2004 16:56:01:
I removed your thread becuase you openly admitted to trying to see if an exploit can work. I understand why you posted your thread but, admitting you tried it can be enough to get the exploits team on you.
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Thank you for your concern, but I wrote an e-mail to Genevra before posting this thread.
Bellow a copy for you:
Hi there!
I don't see a problem posting this, however, you might want to remove
any details about the exploit itself so the post doesn't get deleted by
the moderators. Even if an exploit is fixed, to talk about specifics
can give those who want to exploit new ideas and should be avoided at
all costs, if you know what I mean. =)
This is your post, with the details I'd remove edited out:
Title: BETTER GIMP THAN CHEATER
The title of this post says it all, but the explanation will be quite
long and I hope interesting.
3-4 month ago when I started playing AO I read several guides in order
to decide what profession and alignment should I chose. I learnt that
playing neutral is the most difficult and that was my choice because I
wanted to have a challenge as I believe that it gives more pleasure to
achieve something difficult.
About 10 days ago I was bored at work and spent some time browsing AO
forums. I found this strange / interesting post with a very clear
description of an exploit. I copied and printed out this post (as in
the first line of this post it was clearly written that this post would
be deleted very fast). It was deleted within 10 minutes, which only
confirmed that this exploit could really work.
Few hours later at home I launched AO and decided to check if it really
work.
I entered a deserted shop and started experimenting.
It was not easy, as the process required some skill, it was nothing
that could have happened by accident. I started to believe that it was
a fake and then...
It worked !!!
I was tempted to use this exploit.
The possibilities of abusing this exploit were hard to imagine. It was
possible to equip any item in any slot regardless all requirements.
I was shocked !!!
But then ...........
I realised the most important thing:
If I use this exploit AO will no more be any challenge and I would be
cheating myself.
So I unequipped all items that I put on with this exploit and left the
shop.
I decided that it is
BETTER TO BE GIMP THAN CHEATER
It was the end of story for me and a good lesson.
But this is not the end of this post.
Apparently quite a lot of players did not share my reasoning and used
this exploit to an absurd level. It resulted in several (if not few
hundreds as some rumours says) permanent bans. You will not see any
information about this on official AO web pages but feel free to browse
some web pages of orgs (like famous Storm from RK1 and others).
You will see some idiots bragging about their “achievements” like doing
70 levels in 2 hours, soloing mission QL205 with a character lev 50-70,
or an Engie lev 2 with Slayerdroid QL200.
The worst part is that some of those idiots were very active in PVP
tower wars. There was a lot of strange things happening (mostly on RK-
1) like an exploited Agent with permanent 100% critical hit on every
shot that was able to solo wipe out a base defended by 20-30 players
etc etc. etc..........
I was never a fan of PVP and tower wars but, I respect people that are
heavy PVPers. I can imagine frustration of honest twinked players that
were wiped out by such cheater.
So I am very happy that Funcom has a very strict policy towards
exploits and punishes all exploiters with permanent ban.
I hope that all members of NEPA have similar approach towards exploits.
As a General of NEPA I want to stress that if I find out about any
member cheating or exploiting I will personally kick his/her ass even
before his/her account is banned !!!
> Hi Genevra,
>
> Bellow I include a copy of a post that I already posted on my org web
> page. However I believe that it may be a good idea to post it also
> on official AO boards.
>
> I understand that exploits and banning is a very important and
> delicate subject for Funcom, but I believe that such a post from
> player can do more good (prevent others from exploiting) than
> official FAQ provided by you.
>
> I know that this particular exploit is already fixed so there is no
> danger in spreading this knowledge. I have to admit that I was
> tempted to use this exploit, but then after second thought I
> realised that it would only spoil MY pleasure (I am egoist ) but
> also like to help others). I know and can imagine how exploiters
> can ruin this wonderful game so I strongly support what you are
> doing.
>
> I will be waiting for your answer before I post on AO official forum.
> If you think that any part of my post should be changed / deleted
> please do so. Also as English is not my native language I would
> appreciate if you spot any major mistakes.
>
> I believe that my idea is good and hope that you allow me to post it
> on AO forums. However if for any reasons you decide that it is not
> suitable, I will honour your decision.
>
> Keep up a good work and terminate all exploiters
>
> Regards
>
> Awikun
>
> COPY OF MY POST:
>
> Title: BETTER GIMP THAN CHEATER
>
> The title of this post says it all, but the explanation will be quite
> long and I hope interesting.
>
> 3-4 month ago when I started playing AO I read several guides in order
> to decide what profession and alignment should I chose. I learnt
> that playing neutral is the most difficult and that was my choice
> because I wanted to have a challenge as I believe that it gives
> more pleasure to achieve something difficult.
>
> About 10 days ago I was bored at work and spent some time browsing AO
> forums. I found this strange / interesting post with a very clear
> description of an exploit. I copied and printed out this post (as
> in the first line of this post it was clearly written that this
> post would be deleted very fast). It was deleted within 10 minutes,
> which only confirmed that this exploit could really work.
>
> Few hours later at home I launched AO and decided to check if it
> really work.
>
> I entered a deserted shop (shop terminal was a part of exploit) and
> started experimenting.
>
> It was not easy, as the process required some fast clicking between 3
> buttons in specified order. I started to believe that it was a fake
> and then...
>
>
> It worked !!!
>
> I was tempted to use this exploit.
>
> The possibilities of abusing this exploit were hard to imagine. It was
> possible to equip any item in any slot regardless all requirements.
> For example you could equip Tank armours in any and all armour
> slots, HUD slots etc. and have for example 50k+ AC. You could equip
> the same implant in several different slots and boost required nano
> skill to 1000+ at level 1.
>
> I was shocked !!!
>
> But then ...........
>
> I realised the most important thing:
>
> If I use this exploit AO will no more be any challenge and I would be
> cheating myself.
>
> So I unequipped all items that I put on with this exploit and left the
> shop.
>
> I decided that it is
>
> BETTER TO BE GIMP THAN CHEATER
>
> It was the end of story for me and a good lesson.
>
> But this is not the end of this post.
>
> Apparently quite a lot of players did not share my reasoning and used
> this exploit to an absurd level. It resulted in several (if not few
> hundreds as some rumours says) permanent bans. You will not see any
> information about this on official AO web pages but feel free to
> browse some web pages of orgs (like famous Storm from RK1 and
> others).
>
> You will see some idiots bragging about their "achievements" like
> doing 70 levels in 2 hours, soloing mission QL205 with a character
> lev 50-70, or an Engie lev 2 with Slayerdroid QL200.
>
> The worst part is that some of those idiots were very active in PVP
> tower wars. There was a lot of strange things happening (mostly on
> RK-1) like an exploited Agent with permanent 100% critical hit on
> every shot that was able to solo wipe out a base defended by 20-30
> players etc etc. etc..........
>
> I was never a fan of PVP and tower wars but, I respect people that are
> heavy PVPers. I can imagine frustration of honest twinked players
> that were wiped out by such cheater.
>
> So I am very happy that Funcom has a very strict policy towards
> exploits and punishes all exploiters with permanent ban.
>
> I hope that all members of NEPA have similar approach towards
> exploits.
>
> As a General of NEPA I want to stress that if I find out about any
> member cheating or exploiting I will personally kick his/her ass
> even before his/her account is banned !!!
>
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Best regards,
Genevra Di'Venague
Exploit Team Lead
<http://www.anarchy-online.com>
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Originally Posted by Awikun
