Enforcers get piercing but not MA's?

[_________andthensome]

WTF? Enforcers already have 1hb and 2hb buffs, and we have nothing as far as weapon buffs go. We as ma's primarily use CLAW or Parry stick, some use bow but they suck. Please tell us that A.) you have piercing or 1hb buffs for ma's and B.) you will give us some decent bows with special attacks etc. and C.) Bow buffs.

Man, fundum really knows how to do things..... that was sarcasm for those of you not quite as quick on the take.

P.S. yeah, I know there is the Pow bow, but even that ain't very good.

[_______________Vydas]

I'm sorry, one of my favorite characters is an MA (I have a large number of characters). But I just can't see the argument that the profession needs to get more things before other classes that badly need attention get what they need/want. MA has gotten a lot of improvements recently, and that's fine. But others need attention, also, and deserve the same type of improvements as MA has gotten.

[_________andthensome]

recently? hmm, let's see now... what have we got recently? nothing that I can remember. If you mean within 6 months as recently I suppose you could add in ma suits and claws... big deal, since we have NO weapon buff for them.

I agree, enforcers need love but did you see the post by Caol? Funcom really really really needs a kick up side the head with what they're proposing for enforcers. The requirements are insane and don't add much more than existing nanos. This is why I'm leaving for SWG when it arrives, at least they appear to know what they're doing.

[________________Caol]

I agree with you andthensome. MA's have got -alot- of lub compared to other classes tho, so be carefull with the ranting as it might step the nanogimps on their toes

However, when FC first do their lubbing, it tends to be half-assed and a last-second decision.

I'm not saying it IS, but this is what it seems like to me. And yes, can't wait for SWG

[______________Yazule]

at 200 all but the 110 buff is castable, few are complaining due to the booster coming out and hints that we will have a modified skill system

as far as peircing goes, ill trade a peircing buff for a brawl buff of equal power

acording to one MA, brawl is not an Enforcer skill because it is a physical attack not a melee. Using that logic I would say the same for MA and piercing.

MA weapons are BONUS damage, not main source of damage.

[DaveDread]

Aye, the piercing buffs are in the right hands. And yeah, a better brawl buff then the QL35 one would be nice.

[eyedee]

Lets see. Ma's want 1hblunt and piercing buffs.. so you say you dont have buffs enought?
lets see.


Ac buff
Crit buff
Ma mastery / 4 fists
Dirty fighter
hmmm did i forget.. oh yeah
healing
and evades !!!!!

And now you want to add 1h blunt and piercing buff to that? common you are the *hit with fist dudes*, Enforcer are the close combat melee weapond specialists.. just ask a fellow enf to buff you how hard can that be?

oh forgot to add the rage buff you have that adds to dmg.

[___________Harpalyce]

ENF don't need a Brawl buff past the general one. Brawl reqs on weapons are low, what's there is plenty. It's not a primary source of damage. It's simply "nice to have" every 15 seconds or so. Want more brawl? Ask an MA to buff you...

Same thing for piercing buffs on MAs. The general buff is plenty. Claws are NOT a primary MA weapon; fists are. Piercing spec on claws is quite low and it's ridiculously easy to OE them. Additionally, most high level MAs outrgrow claws altogether and reclaim piercing IP.

Brawl is the MA special, hence Dirty Fighter (don't get me started on "book" specials...). What MAs do need is a bow buff. A whole line of green spec weapons that you can barely OE and some ql's can't even be equipped. Needs fixed badly.

[Arinia]

Originally posted by Harpalyce


Brawl is the MA special,

Enf have cheapest brawl in the game.

But I still agree, we don't really NEED a brawl buff, although it really wouldn't be out of line.

[__________THEDEACON!]

Piercing buffs go to enforcers. this makes sense, because they ar the masters of melee weaponry. Think of them as the melee version of the soldier. Soldiers get shotgun, rifle, ar, etc etc masteries, even though most soldiers stick with some form of assault rifle.

Seeing as soldiers have mostly green ranged weapons skills, I'd go so far as to say that enforcers should get all aqua and green colored melee skills (but only after something is doen to compensate the soldiers)

I totally intend to go back to claw at least part time someday. I got no beef with asking an enforcer to trade me his piercing buff for my crit buff It's good socializing too!

[_________andthensome]

Very good answers, all of you... however, it may be a secondary attack but who cares? My ar goes down by 80 points when equipping the claw and that doesn't sit pretty with me. Secondly, I have outgrown the claw yes, but I noticed that even with my higher ar without it, I still get out-aggroed by lower lvl ma's with claw on! I don't know man, I just don't like the system the way they have it.

An enforcer can get to nearly 1200 ar with self buffs at lvl 200, I'm at 1125 self buffed. I don't wear dragon body armor (yet) so that would go up with it once I got it, but that'll be awhile yet. Yes, we have crit buffs but dang, on high lvl mobs it seems like I hardly crit at all; the old ace camp with the primus, secundus, tertius, and quartus for example. On primus I miss a lot and don't crit much; on secundus, depending on what type it is, I hit frequently but don't crit as much as you'd think with 34% crit chance and 1125 skill. I know I know, it depends on the evades of the mob and since they're high lvl (deep red to dark orange - primus and secundus), they have high evades. Well, hopefully they'll add some different skill system, like yazule said might be happening in booster pack or whatever.

The whole thing stinks if you ask me, I'm not staying for the shadowlands I'm pretty sure of that.

[_______________North]

Well it seems that people are never satisfied. MAs are getting a very nice bow for example, if you ask me..you should not have any ranged capasity at all.

A profession is not supposed to be able to self buff all the attack skills. MAs is not the only profession that is not able to do so. At least you can buff you main attack skill, not all professions can do that either.

[____________RedSonja]

Originally posted by Harpalyce
ENF don't need a Brawl buff past the general one. Brawl reqs on weapons are low, what's there is plenty. It's not a primary source of damage. It's simply "nice to have" every 15 seconds or so. Want more brawl? Ask an MA to buff you...

Why is it that most people seem to think the primary use of a buff is to arm higher QL weapons?
We want/need a Brawl buff because some melee users only have Brawl as a second attack.
Some of us don't have Fast Attack and other than our standard hits we Brawl.
The majority of Enforcers are also not moaning about the fact that the Challenger nano's will no longer increase skills (for arming higher QL weapons) but instead it will actually be of some use in the game.
We want to be able to do higher damage etc not neccessarily have the ability to use much higher QL weapons then maybe we should.

[__________Beautyfarm]

Originally posted by andthensome
WTF? Enforcers already have 1hb and 2hb buffs, and we have nothing as far as weapon buffs go. We as ma's primarily use CLAW or Parry stick, some use bow but they suck. Please tell us that A.) you have piercing or 1hb buffs for ma's and B.) you will give us some decent bows with special attacks etc. and C.) Bow buffs.

Man, fundum really knows how to do things..... that was sarcasm for those of you not quite as quick on the take.

P.S. yeah, I know there is the Pow bow, but even that ain't very good.

a) why ? you have claws to SUPPLEMENT your damage. primary weapon are your fists, you can buff ma skill by quite a lot. parry sticks arent for damage, but for the evades bonusses.
b) again, why ? rooting an ma would be even more pointless than it is now.

http://v020u46eff.maximumasp.com/AOD...sp?AOID=165059

this looks very good to me for something that is supposed to be your weak spot

[Zamolcrat]

Hmm, since when is a green skill supposed to be a weak spot ?
In case you don't know MAs have green bow skill.

[____________Travesty]

Enforcers are the hand to hand weapon specialists. They should get the buff. It isnt self only is it? Because I will be mad if it is. I give dirty fighter to every enforcer I see. The self only crap has to stop.

[__________Beautyfarm]

Originally posted by Zamolxis
Hmm, since when is a green skill supposed to be a weak spot ?
In case you don't know MAs have green bow skill.

i know that, my post was a lil ironic if you didnt notice

*explaining the irony now* still, getting rooted IS supposed a weak spot of mas, that they only have to raise one green skill to nullify that should be more than enough and the new bows in 14.6 are pretty decent. asking for even better ones and related buffs might be (IS imo) a lil too much.

[Animosity]

Good to see you have some wine to put out the flames you caused.

MA is one of the top professions in the game and you want more???????

these are equip buffs, not combat buffs.

Just get a Enf to buff you, its no biggy if you have friends or a half decent guild.

Originator, please report to any 0% surpression gas area, or arena of your choice.

ani.

[jamster]

to all off you saying cant wait for SWG to come out, why dont you just leave now and let the rest off us enjoy the game