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Thread: Friday with Means - Jan. 14th, 2011: Moving Jitters...

  1. #61
    Uggh.... whomever continues thinking that it is a good idea to have these bright/clashing colors in the documents needs to be responsible for providing us with some medication to compensate for the headaches it causes.
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  2. #62
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  3. #63
    Pink is known to have a calming effect. Maybe that is why they choose to use pink in nano docs.

  4. #64
    Sigh, you guys have to whine about EVERYTHING don't you? The spreadsheet is fine, you can change how it looks if it bothers you that much. FFS grow up some people.
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  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Technogen View Post
    Sigh, you guys have to whine about EVERYTHING don't you? The spreadsheet is fine, you can change how it looks if it bothers you that much. FFS grow up some people.
    If it genuinely causes medical problems for people, I don't think they'd be satisfied with "ffs grow up".
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  6. #66
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  7. #67
    Interesting changes in the nano document. Thank goodness that the doc professional posted a summary in the profession forum area because while I love pink.. I just got overwhelmed when I opened that spreadsheet... and yeah, I'm an accountant.. I like spreadsheets

    I've played a doc as my main for about 80% of my time in AO. I personally felt that we were given some sort of PvM godmode when the LE nanos came out (and that's compared to being pretty darned good prior to that). I'm not overly worried about the changes outlined BUT can't wait until the test server is up so we can start to see these things in action. It is really tough to determine the net effect of all of the changes (for all of the professions) until we actually start playing together to see... I know we're still missing a couple profession docs so just being patient

    I can't wait to see the trader document.. and for whoever said Traders were bad in PvM (some trader posting on page 2 or 3)... speak for yourself My trader is the preferred toon I use for PvM... but then again, she is in a pvm setup.. I don't pvp on her at all.
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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Saetos View Post
    If it genuinely causes medical problems for people, I don't think they'd be satisfied with "ffs grow up".
    If bright things cause people to have medical problems they most likely should not be on the internet. Or if they are have their computer setup for displaying in a way that it wont cause them problems. Every OS has a built in color control system.
    "A whole new place to run around for ages in then die suddenly without warning."

    "I know who coded pet pathing... and when I see him I say "/follow" and I start waling in to walls :P"

    The "Trolls" option is incorrect. The term trolls is not used to describe the gathering of information on the Internet.

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  9. #69
    Some people like the colour scheme?

    granted some say "don¨'t complain", but what if it had been in the more regular colours of white background for current, light green for new and light yellow for changes.
    I have used that one for years, and it is way less of an eye-sore than this.

    Granted, it is a lot of document to change now, but the comments have been there from document 1..


    It is an actual reason for me -not- to read it, as it is so poorly formatted that it is annoying..
    I know I have to go through it though, so commenting on it later.
    but rather poor advertising for new things.. especially if you want feedback.

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  10. #70
    Microscopic type, white text on pink backgrounds, pathological avoidance of neutral colors and colors that work well on LCD displays; I am seriously pretty sure these documents were laid out by someone who is colorblind and doesn't know it.

  11. #71
    Maybe its just me but I'm still not thrilled with the names Lesser Complete Healing and Improved Complete Healing. maybe its just me but if the name says complete I kinda expect that it should do that. Granted I don't really have a better suggestion, Partial Healing maybe, but meh there has to be a better name out there right?
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  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Whealer View Post
    Maybe its just me but I'm still not thrilled with the names Lesser Complete Healing and Improved Complete Healing. maybe its just me but if the name says complete I kinda expect that it should do that. Granted I don't really have a better suggestion, Partial Healing maybe, but meh there has to be a better name out there right?
    Yeah, it is pretty lolzy. It's all a relic of when CH was put in game as a 10k heal, in an era when 10k HP was unheard of and thought to be unattainable (imagine that!). Now that it's routine for normal toons at endgame to have 25-85k HP, it's only iCH at best that merits the name at all. They should just rethink the lower ones and rename / retext them in a way that reflects their last-ditch nature, but doesn't just sound dumb when it only heals 50% of a toon's actual HP.

    Sadly some good names like "Cellular Crashcart" are already taken. But there has to be something. Maybe variants of "Code Blue!" (and a cool blue variant of the heal icon with a lightning bolt inside to go along with it). Then iCH could just be the one and only "real" "Complete Healing."

  13. #73
    pink is the new black

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxi View Post
    Pink is known to have a calming effect. Maybe that is why they choose to use pink in nano docs.
    They should combine it with blue. It relaxes.
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  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanopwner View Post
    no worries, masta likes to come on the forums to project his ego (compensate)...

    I for one would like to see the trader docs, so it seems logical to ask where they are if someone says they were uploaded somewhere... duh.
    It is? When the point was to upload them to the professionals for review before releasing them in public, like everything else? Even then, they weren't done for the first draft to us in the middle of the week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gridpain View Post
    Yoda ? is that you ?

    => Kintaii said he couldnt publish the trader doc because it couldnt upload it.
    => you said to people finding that this was looking much alike "my dog ate my homework" that it was successfully uploaded elsewhere...
    => I ask where

    It concerns me because I d like to read it ...
    Learn English, that's a proper sentence.

    He also said "to the professionals" It's not been discussed for such an encompassing document.
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  16. #76
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  17. #77
    now that you're working on the water... PLEASE add underwater RK content!

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstabber View Post
    now that you're working on the water... PLEASE add underwater RK content!
    Only if they don't use the atrocious AoC underwater effect.

    And fix the damn waterfalls! They've been broken since DB1 came out and it makes me sad.
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Berinda View Post
    Only if they don't use the atrocious AoC underwater effect.

    And fix the damn waterfalls! They've been broken since DB1 came out and it makes me sad.
    And don't use same as in AoC(atleast at launch) they look horrible...
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  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kintaii View Post
    Work on the engine is progressing well with multiple ocean volumes now displaying reasonably correctly in the client. Water is handled completely differently in the new engine so some changes are going to have to be made to the world for the water to work in some locations.
    Sounds cool!

    Will there be new swim-buffing items, new swim-animations/mechanics aswell?

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