Give MPs some active evades pls

[gaiatry]

MP is evade prof, but we don't have any active evades in perks.

Give MPs some perks like dof and limber, even advys got it, why can't we have something like this ?

It is especially important as our blockers are going to be improved .. errr... removed.

[Xtremtech]

Is the MP an evade prof? As in, a profession that has evades as part of its core template... MPs are just in the middling pack in terms of skills maxes and costs on evades.

I can see an argument for it on the one hand: AoR, Creation Shields and the Procs... but apart from the Shield of Zset, there's relatively little there that really puts MPs in the top flight of evaders and never really has been. And the Creation Shields are generally situational in usage.

MPs always been, at best, the 'best of the rest' in terms of evades. But does that make them 'an evade profession'? I'm not saying they shouldn't be... or that MPs don't need more evades/def available to them.... but I'm also not convinced that they should necessarily be called an 'evade profession'.

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[Cryfreman]

The only time when MP's got to be anything like an evade prof is during the few months we could self proc. Static Ranged mp is pretty much Enforcer def at the moment I think?

[Kinkstaah]

A far better would be an active "My pet takes dmg/debuffs/nukes instead of me" option, or percentage thereof.

[-Klod-]

A far better would be an active "My pet takes dmg/debuffs/nukes instead of me" option, or percentage thereof.

Sure, if FC could make it to function properly (which they can't).

Instead of that, we will just get the laughable excuse for defense, in line with TTB.

[Armus]

shusshhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I and others said this pre LE. And looky what did mp's get? A dot that gives the caster aad and nr and the "victim" gets a huge AAO buff. There are also some blockers in the mix.

Again.. shhhhhh.. Lord knows what they will come up with next if we dont keep quiet.

[DaChains]

Give soldiers some perks like dof and limber, even advys got it, why can't we have something like this ?

also

Give doctors some perks like dof and limber, even advys got it, why can't we have something like this ?


pls ? qq ? :|

[Mountaingoat]

A far better would be an active "My pet takes dmg/debuffs/nukes instead of me" option, or percentage thereof.

Yeah no... Maybe once pets get 200k hp, we can remove debuffs on them more than once every 5 minutes, and we can recast them with all buffs engaged in 10s or less. I currently spend waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time dealing with debuffed and dead pets.

[gaiatry]

Give soldiers some perks like dof and limber, even advys got it, why can't we have something like this ?
Give doctors some perks like dof and limber, even advys got it, why can't we have something like this ?

wtfor ??

MP is evade prof, and not only because they have aad in perks and researches, evades bufs and procs, lots of aad on armors and that blue shield called zset.
MP relies on evades such as docs rely on heals and solds on reflect.

So if a doc thinks he need more heals or sold wants more reflect, just start a topic and whine where. I am not sure they do either..

But MPs need more evades, that is what I am talking about.

Is the MP an evade prof?

MP is N1 evade prof.
Why ?

What else can shield MP do, when he is in recharge of ss, pets are rooted and lost somethere or just went their own business as usuall ?

He can only evade, nothing more

Other evades profs have exciting offence at the same time, but MP has no chance to hit/perk anyone, all he does is waiting for the next tick of 40 sec 1300 heal perk, thats all!

And you say MP is not evaiding prof.. Evading is the only thing MP can do good if he twink in it =)

[DaChains]

MP is N1 evade prof.

I am sorry, but i laughed... surely you watched the green evade skills a MP has in his Skill Tree...oh no..you didn't )))))))))))

[gaiatry]

Da, I didn't say we have max evades of all classes - I say we don't have anything but evades.

[Xtremtech]

And you say MP is not evaiding prof.. Evading is the only thing MP can do good if he twink in it =)

I really just asked the question, whether the MP is designed to be an evading profession as its core template.

I'm not sure that you really answer the question. Saying that an MP has to twink evades as much as possible because of weaknesses or impracticalities in their other defences, isn't really the same as saying that they're supposed to rely on evades by design.

Back in the days before SL when everybody was using AS rifles in PvP and pets were in an even worse state than they are now... it was certainly the case that most professions could be said to have to rely on AS - but you wouldn't say that nearly all professions are AS specialists as a result and so all needed mega AS buffs etc.

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[Johnnykay]

Damn, Gaiatry. For all the bragging it up and all the talk about how MP's were fine and it was just Cryfreeman and the rest that couldn't pvp, you sure are complaining a lot 3 weeks later...

[-Klod-]

MPs are fine. Move along. Nothing to see here.

[gaiatry]

Yea, Klod, +9000 to you =)
MPs are fine, and I love PVP on MP only.
That is why I whine so much

[-Klod-]

Yea, Klod, +9000 to you =)
MPs are fine, and I love PVP on MP only.
That is why I whine so much

Well, there has to be something that other people can kill at PvP. Hence the current MP incarnation.

[McKnuckleSamwich]

I'm not against giving MP's an activatable defence. But, maybe it should be a line that they share with keepers... There are some Shadowlands based similarities between keepers and MP's. Maybe there can be some shared defences in this aspect?

Perhaps if devotional armour was moved from the blessing line to the Holy Mark line, then Holy mark was a shared line with MPs, and the proposed change to HM went through, which offers a 250 AAD perk as well... that could be 40 seconds+ of fairly strong activatable defences, both in AAD and in reflects.

I could see this fitting in well with the MP's current roll, of being partially evasive and partially a reflects oriented class. Balance though, in this aspect is vital. Interestingly though, having a perkable 23% reflect, or whatever it is, would give MP's almost 100% reflect for 20 or so seconds with the right buffs?? pretty interesting, and probably just as useful as a DOF/limber type thing but not breaking the current mould of the defences.

[Wrangeline]

Da, I didn't say we have max evades of all classes - I say we don't have anything but evades.

First of all, yes you do.
Secondly, if we were to follow your logic in this thread, traders should get what you are asking for as well. We got the biggest evades buff in the game. Without twinking evades, a trader just goes splat. A trader does not have the option of being a "shield trader" like a MP has the option to be a "shield MP".

[Insane666]

First of all, yes you do.
Secondly, if we were to follow your logic in this thread, traders should get what you are asking for as well. We got the biggest evades buff in the game. Without twinking evades, a trader just goes splat. A trader does not have the option of being a "shield trader" like a MP has the option to be a "shield MP".

an mp doesnt have an option to drain his targets attack rating, static def is all we have, static def and an obsolete, ever-lost heal pet

bump for something happening to bow mp's, preferably something good, personally i did reset mine a few days ago, but pls pls pls make me wanna go back bow

[Xtremtech]

an mp doesnt have an option to drain his targets attack rating, static def is all we have, static def and an obsolete, ever-lost heal pet

Dazzle with Lights debuffs AR (-300) and inits (-800)... and can be maintained nearly 50% of the time (exactly 50% after rebalancing).

And there's damage debuffs, Damage/Init debuffs, stun and evade procs - and/or (depending on how you see it) the more controversial special blockers and active AAD of SS. Then there's the nanodamage and nanoskill debuffs vs casters and the Nanoskills debuffs can also affect the ability of weapon users to use short-term buffs for their AR.

You can argue the relative value or lack of value... but they are all in the mix.

A lot of stuff is likely to change on MP defences by the looks of the announced changes in the rebalancing. It looks too, like weapon choices and importance of creations is likely to change too... so it's tough to know what will end up where as things stand.

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