well in mass pvp i got feared quite alot of times
so .... you scared me and i run away ...
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but from 6 times jiting my pants... 5 times i run into omni blob ... how is that "feared'
thats kinda ...... kamikaze ... leeeerooooooy jerkins /we ... but its not fear
dono .. change fear to run from enemy not into enemy.
proly only me annoyed by this but fear doesnt fit into AO imo.
both sides got it, both sides got keepers/fixers to prevent it, i don't see a problem (and yes i find it annoying too, so what)
have you noticed that they don't break on hit like they're supposed to?
most people I talk to say the same thing, they don't break.
don't fix...just remove them.
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There's a logic to fears making you run away... but I don't think you could programme AO easily to decide where to run to if there were opposition players broadly spread around. It's not an easy thing for a game to assess a tactical situation across a wide area - and decide where to run to.
You could also make an rp argument, that says that in blind panic you may end up running further into danger...
You could make the target always turn 180 degrees and then run straight away... but then if you were already running away (like kiting) then that would have you going straight toward your attacker... but if you were facing your target to shoot at them, you'd run the opposite direction.
If it's a fixed algorithm, then your attacker could probably always take advantage of the predictability to force you into a desired direction - which could be abused just as much. Or it could penalise your own direction of facing, which may also not be desirable.
I'd say that the best solution is probably to have a strong random element to the direction in which you run. That's probably the most equitable all round.
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yeah...we have a lot to fear knowing we get to live more since we're scanned, if you want the RP side of itfear rebuffing!
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Hum, same problem that PVP had 4 years ago with mass AOE roots. Same story. Someone has a trader, other side needs a crat. Now someone has a crat, other side needs a keeper.
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Originally Posted by Phante
Terrorized people do stupid stuff
example : a kid i knew got hit by a car while running away from a bee
Our avatars are supposed to be grown up people. Grown up people smack the bee with morning newspaper.
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MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
The difference between an adult and a kid, in that case, is what "fears" you.
You smack a bee, but will prolly trow yourself in front of a bus if you've seen Micheal Jackson's corpse, semi covered in dirt, fresh out of the grave and ready to sodomize you.
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If fear makes players run away always then the snare duration would have to be greatly increased to allow the melee profs using it, and the pets from crats, time to actually get to their target.
Also, the crat could just drop behind the opposing blob and fear them all into the enemies. Being able to somewhat control it could be very dangerous if people knew what they were doing.
can confirm this.have you noticed that they don't break on hit like they're supposed to?
most people I talk to say the same thing, they don't break.
don't fix...just remove them.
if they do break on hit... it takes a very long time.
Why? My IQ doesn't mysteriously drop down to 50 when I get scared/feared IRL.
Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress
MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
Well. Let's have a good example here then, ppl that scream when they see mouse, they often do something spontaneous. (Jumping onto a chair, flapping with arms or just plain hit someone close in the face.. (Personal experience))
If you are easy to scare you will do stuff that you won't think over untill after u've done it.
So fear in ao is imo working as intended. and does not need a change. (note the IMO)
For those who says what if my toon isn't scared of anything? well.. the nano alters how your body reacts to something frightfull
No end to what nanobots can do nowadays =)
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IRL stuff aside, the fact is, wrong profs got it.
Renowned jester of the double AS Tigress
MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
there is no snare associated to crat fear.
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Crat should not have, but its a nice tool with maybe a ridiculously short lockout. It cannot be used in duels, so a single fear in mass pvp is hard to argue as being too damaging anyways.
MP's should have gotten a fear (yes I am serious) but maybe they can have a knockback type effect instead.
I stand corrected thenIt does stand true for enfs and MAs though. We do enough chasing down of opponents.
You're technically scared away by the person who cast it, so I'd venture to say that you don't care who else you run into, just not that Crat trying to make you do volunteer service!
this sounds more right than a bureaucrat with fears, since MP's can "The nanocloud briefly takes on a semi-physical manifestation of the caster's anger." or "The attack of Tumulten confuses and clouds the mind."
So why not a pet that "The attack of somenewpet clouds the mind, making the target to scream and run around in fear"
a friend of mine saw a mouse and was about to start running when he punched me hard in the face >_< and damn did that hurt (ps: he was also screaming like a little girliewas fun at the same time)
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