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Thread: Friday with(out) Means - May 7th, 2010: hbaaaaalllhggrrrrrraaaagghhhhh

  1. #41
    New difficulty on Collector seems pretty right (i.e challenging enough for the pickup "enf/doc/calmer/3 DD" team).
    Loot is ... well maybe a bit too low now, and certainly too random. It would have been nice to see the "weird looking nanos" or more Ado/Inf dynaloot instead of random nodrops from RK raids (APF stuff, HI specs, tara stuff, ...). Also it would make sense that The Collector has the stuff availaible in locations close to him before he starts getting RK stuff.

    Second boss seems very wrong. While being a very fast kill for good teams, it just becomes a nightmare in average teams. The same average team that will kill Collector 30-50% of the time and sometime walk away without even getting some social armor or a bronze box containing TOTW stuff (add some loot or tune down the healing ability a bit - against good teams, she won't be able to heal at all so it will make the "get to Collector" part a bit faster only for average teams)

    Edit : ICC armor is nice. Heads are ... hmm ... not something I'd choose for any character !
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  2. #42
    Well the collector is turning into something I rather not do even if the loot was first day uber. So far 4 runs and all have wiped. First two runs were to the collector and the second was almost a kill until the tank died (i think maybe the spike thing got him) and that wiped us with 2 bubbles left to go. The 3rd and 4th runs have been wipes at the second boss. Doc went down both times right away.

    All the runs have been pick up teams. I am sure with a team of regular endgame toons it is a good raid. But pick up teams are just crappy. I am not sure I am going back again. Having listened to several people complain about all the TOTW loot they are getting is really adding to the why bother go back.

    I do know this, there are several doc's out there that think at 220 they are raid quality doc's and the collector is showing that to be far from the truth. So here is hoping I can complete it at least once this weekend and be able to comment on actual loot next week.

    Daily missions, well nice idea. The scooplet mission is one that you need to rethink. Got it and went out there. Well it appeared that 4 of us has been given the same mission. Good news you can do it as a team. Bad news is it was 4 220's standing around for 10 minutes waiting on spawn to kill them all in 2 minutes. I am glad you can team for it, but this is one of those times that the designers have no real clue how it will play out on live. How many people can be on that mission at one time? When does it turn into a farm fest fighting for kills? And I want to say that a single hit to a level 10 research and the lost of ~66k SK at 220 sucks.

    Also want to say that I had commented awhile back that I did not think FC even was sure what was getting changed in each patch anymore. The thread about unlisted changes just proves the point.

    Subway, level 25 toons as the new subway twink just made that such an easy zone. Did the team forget about the level locked nano's at level 25. Most of which are really powerfully in relation to the subway encounter. Good job on the revamp but bad idea on the access level twink.

    Shinies, whatever. I am tired of carrots. Just get the engine done. You are now over 24 months of promised engine update and shiny carrots every couple of weeks.

    I hope the new player experience gets the love and time that the collector got. The players have begged for the new player experience to be revamped for over two years. It will be a shame if it gets less time.
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  3. #43
    Nice heads, nicer armor.

    Warning: Mess up the black-hooded nanomage male face and I will go emo /wrists. Hoping for the best, getting prepared for the worst.
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  4. #44
    WTT my Ofab armor look for new ICC look. Paying... Billions?
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Kintaii View Post
    ect ect
    Great to hear from you again Kintaii. It's nice to hear from other people at FC than just Means sometimes

    PS: Your use of "ect" instead of "etc" actually got me looking up if I'd been using the wrong abreviation for ten years... turns out I haven't
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  6. #46
    ICC armor = pure awesome. Goth solitus head = has never been. Updated graphics won't change that for me. Nanomage looks sweet (for a nanomage) though! Thanks for your hard work (and tolerance) this week AO team - you deserve it!
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  7. #47
    Id like to see soli head based on porn-star.(body also)
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Aiken View Post
    Lol @ thinking risk = the rewards. Really guys ? No, just no imo.
    Yeah. Public pointsbot raids are zero risk for the possibility of reward - it conditioned the playerbase badly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wyldebeast View Post
    Regarding the new instance, I'm really disappointed. The first two "bosses" and the kickers are only there as time sinks. What's up with that? There's nothing hard about them, they just take time.
    I'd imagine it's setup like so instead of say, putting an hour lockout on the instance, they have the lockout to the loot built in.
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  9. #49
    wait.. what... wooah..

    so Kintaii, where does us neutrals go to sign to work for ICC and get our copy of that social armor (but black if possible) ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciekafsky View Post
    Every single profession is underpowered when compared to advys. Learn to live with it. At last they dont alphakill you so you are not underpowered but rather somewhere near the very top of the food chain.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by unback View Post
    wait.. what... wooah..

    so Kintaii, where does us neutrals go to sign to work for ICC and get our copy of that social armor (but black if possible) ?
    Black is a color reserved to Omnis, soz.

  11. #51
    Must say i like the new ICC look.

    I'm kinda hoping that they will keep the ICC armour out of the playerbase.
    Evenmore hoping that they will update all guards to best weapons + their own unique type of armour.

    So the guards are more unique, and less junky than they are now.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Neosh1 View Post
    Id like to see soli head based on porn-star.(body also)
    Famous RK "actress" Traci Trox?
    Is already in-game.
    Redefining the TLB concept is not so PG-friendly tho'.
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  13. #53
    ICC armor, looks great. The logo on their uniforms was originally on the Tir Accord which was the ceasefire agreement that was signed between OT and the Council of Truth. It was effective for six years but was annulled when Omni-Tek could no longer co-exist peacefully.
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  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Saetos View Post
    No word on the concerns of many individuals who feel cheated out of their Collector phats because of the behavior of several exploiters on patch day (whom were rewarded with their actions and never reprimanded)?

    No word on the wildly differing final difficulty level of the Collector encounter herself, where it's either horribly hard due to sync issues or systematic, boring, and easy; both times with Hellspinners and TOTW loot and Notum Focuses as "rewards" for putting us through a 60-90 minute gauntlet?

    No word on how Bureaucrats are still the #1 profession to search for when doing not only Collector, but nealy any instance, due to their powerful auras, DD potential, superior CC, and stackable init debuffs? I'll agree it's not as ridiculous as when they had a pair of stun procs, but it's still rather jarring.

    Reeeeeeally would have been nice to get Means' word on this too. Hope to high Heaven you won't be the only Dev to chime in on this issue; quite frankly I'm disappointed at how rather chipper the FC dev team seems to be in the wake of these issues.
    Couldn't have said it better myself. (Great to see a fix happen so quickly, shame there hasn't been any repurcussion's. )

    Love the new ICC looks though and awesome work with the daily missions, great job
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  15. #55

    Daily Mishes need some work...

    A. I can only choose one thing to "work" on a day? I can't do a daily mish for sk/research, then one for VP, then another for AXP, then another for tokens? That is not a viable alternative to leveling on any of those fronts.

    B. The research reward for a 220 is kinda a joke, 36k added to my research for flying all over RK to target dreads? This is not a viable alternative which is what it was promised to be.

    3. The non-elite mission is just random? I have no say in what it is and if I don't like it and don't want to do it I'm locked out of getting a new mish for 18hrs?

    4. I get basically two tokens (18 added to token count) for completing the mish? That is not a viable alternative.

    Daily Mishes need to be scaled way up to make them viable at this point...
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocene View Post
    Black is a color reserved to Omnis, soz.
    liez, black is agentz!
    Quote Originally Posted by Ciekafsky View Post
    Every single profession is underpowered when compared to advys. Learn to live with it. At last they dont alphakill you so you are not underpowered but rather somewhere near the very top of the food chain.

  17. #57
    Friday ninja patch incoming, apparently, on 5 mins notice. Even Testlive is down...

  18. #58

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    Friday ninja patch incoming, apparently, on 5 mins notice. Even Testlive is down...
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  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Only TestLive. Not live. We aren't crazy.
    Someone posted chat warning on wrong server then.
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  20. #60
    lololol means posted in fo(w)m

    Can clan keeper has healthdrain on righteous wrath like our neutral and omni brother do please? :P

    edit: yeah what autohead said..
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