Constant Barrage

[Gunnandahalf]

Wtb 500 evade ring then! Imagine one ring giving 500 defense oh wait!
Or a general perk line to add evades by like 1000 and only lowering nano skills by 700ish! , that would be fair right? Prob not

[MassDebater]

Except that every class bar nts uses nanos and weapons. Whereas NTs dont need a weapon.
And AAD doesnt affect NR meaning even with HHAB the NR most classes can muster isnt enough
And NT nanos have def checks like 55% 90% etc etc.

[Djantro]

This subject has been covered several times before, i suggest you go and read those thread.

Quick summary : CB in current NT's state has its justification and is at the core of the profession toolset. Altering it now would have numerous consequences.

But since NT's toolset gonna see major changes, it could be a good occasion to remove/nerf/alter it, and adjust the rest of the toolset accordingly, since so many people dislike it so much.

It is taking away one of NT's uniqueness tho, and i d much prefer that the concept stays there, not in terms of power, but in term of design/creativity/variety among the different profession.

[MassDebater]

Uniqueness..your right about that, no other prof has a 1k, 3x stacking defense debuff on the target.

[Shrubberyman]

And another pre-balancing QQ thread...

[Darkirbiska1]

this is lamest ever attempt to defend stuff that must suffer a fix.
some ppl don't find this post as ''stupid'' as you call it since they post.
weren't you the guy complaining about 80% def check on pistol perks?

Cmon, fixing CB isn't stupid, but YOUR suggestion is. QQ moar

[Magnificus]

and another pre-balancing qq thread...

qft

[Klodovik]

qft

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[X-Styx-X]

can you counter the OP with arguments instead defending your pathetic NT with chilsidh ''qq moar''- Mr.1 button,2 buttons,I win?

how do u cast Multiple cb's ( since the problem is that its spamable) and atleast enough nukes to kill a person in 2 buttons ?

Teach me.

aslong as its IMPOSSIBLE for a 220 endgame nt to even perk 275 conds and most endgame bosses we NEED debuffs.

Nt nano ar is pathetic , compareing it to other proffs is just stupid.
A nt is a pure DMG class , since we got no debuffs. pretty much like a nanoskill version of a Sold.
If solds had 2500ish ar endgame and couldn't perk most endgame encounters and high lvl towers , would they be happy ? a Nt can't even do it with CB3.

dont forget we get like 250 AAO max at 220 , so even our perks suck at landing withoud debuffs.

[navycut]

It's use in pvm isn't what anyone is complaining about. Traders have a pvm-only NR debuff that debuffs NR by like 6k or something

[X-Styx-X]

It's use in pvm isn't what anyone is complaining about. Traders have a pvm-only NR debuff that debuffs NR by like 6k or something

dont expect to land many 100% nukes and 100% perks with only 2500 ar.
With that ar u wont perk anything that has some AAD and ip'ed NR.


nt is supposed to be a luck based toon ? IF ur lucky enough to land 4 nukes in a row with crappy landing rates u make 1 kill.
Not to mention most people have heals,coons etc wich would make it take AGES to kill anything while a nt can get perk alphad by all those low %perkcheck perks in no time.


CB is fine as it is , just make it removalbe with VS

[Klodovik]

dont expect to land many 100% nukes and 100% perks with only 2500 ar.
With that ar u wont perk anything that has some AAD and ip'ed NR.


nt is supposed to be a luck based toon ? IF ur lucky enough to land 4 nukes in a row with crappy landing rates u make 1 kill.
Not to mention most people have heals,coons etc wich would make it take AGES to kill anything while a nt can get perk alphad by all those low %perkcheck perks in no time.


CB is fine as it is , just make it removalbe with VS

Blablabla. It's not fine.

Also, AAD is getting removed from equation (perk wise) and it opens opportunity for you to land NR debuff perks, which no one has anything against (cooldown). For a change, those perks will be more balanced then this spam nano, so it can finally go away.

[X-Styx-X]

Blablabla. It's not fine.

Also, AAD is getting removed from equation (perk wise) and it opens opportunity for you to land NR debuff perks, which no one has anything against (cooldown). For a change, those perks will be more balanced then this spam nano, so it can finally go away.

CB will get a lockout after the balance patch.
So it isn't spamable , no need to keep making topics about this.

Under current mechanics its fine.

[X-Styx-X]

yourself post the answer..Styx NT 3,1 AR..
so after CB 3 how much nano AR you get?
and where from you got this info about NT being ''pure DD''? Symbiants say different story.

3.1k ar + 3K nr debuff and we still CAN NOT perk Beast and pretty much all other endgame bosses.
and in a normal pvp setup we only got 2.5K ar.

we ain't pure DD ? we are pretty much TOP DD ingame, we have no debuffs all our offensive tools are Dmg ones. so Yes we are a pure DD class.

what do my symbs say ? they add nanoskills and tradeskills , yet we aint tradeskillers
Exterm symbs ain't made just for NT's

[Darkirbiska1]

as this forum page shows,anyone can post suggestions about a ''future'' balance.
if all can you understand from it is ''qq'' posts,your maturity is revealed in it.
but hey, this game is addressed to 10ish old children,isn't it.
can you counter the OP with arguments instead defending your pathetic NT with chilsidh ''qq moar''- Mr.1 button,2 buttons,I win?
read the OP, I suggested 100% NR check on that nano. If this is stupid, so are you then..

I laugh everyone like you who speaks about NTs and their tool sets, how to "balance" them, etc. and they have never even played NT class.

edit: are you angry when you die vs NT? Reroll advy. Are you already advy and you die vs NT? Quit game.

[X-Styx-X]

I laugh everyone like you who speaks about NTs and their tool sets, how to "balance" them, etc. and they have never even played NT class.

edit: are you angry when you die vs NT? Reroll advy. Are you already advy and you die vs NT? Quit game.

this

[Klodovik]

No, we just hate seeing band-aid toolset sticking around even tho it's not needed anymore.

[monkier]

(Of course people don't complain if they don't get killed )

NT offense checks nanoskills vs NR. fine. Nukes are powerfull. fine, they should be.
But CB means that you might as well have 0 NR when you're fighting a NT. What is NR for? countering nanos. But it's useless against the prof that uses nanos the most. See something wrong there?

NTs are nano specialists. They know nanoprograms better than you- so they will break through your silly little defenses- because it is what they do. What they dont do, however, is survive very well. Pretty much any class can stunlock/murder a NT in a couple of seconds. Just dont ignore them- that is the only situation in which they can hurt you.

[Darkirbiska1]

I don't play either nt nor adv.I also know this game is addressed to 10-13 years old children and the existence of nt and adv is highly recommended in order for customers to be happy.

To Styx:
this post was about pvp situations, not about perking Beast but you didn't bother to read it,did you? Beside,if i would have played NT I would probably stand up myself, but I don't
Stick to lowbie twinks,you are good in there but only there.
(having nano programming buff does not lead to eventually tradeskilling?I was talking about NT being support class,nvm)

I think Filantropica is only pissed on NTs, because his crat dies very fast and easy vs NT so he tries to kill NTs as soon as he sees one, but in many cases terrible /fail, that's all.
Crat is like fixer, low hp ftl.
Btw Fil, YOU are support profession, NT is single and aoe DD.
As you said you have never played NT, so be quiet with ideas about balancing profession when you know NOTHING about them.

[Darkirbiska1]

I will /bow the first NT that doesn't use CB

You will bow before every NT after they remove NR+AAD check on our perks
You don't know,how would you knew when you don't know NT problems, that NTs are using CB to perk someone and not only nuke him!