Constant Barrage

[msbish]

trying to say tl5 mp's is overpowered is kinda insane, i guess thats why ive been the onlyone on rk1 until last year..
its 3mp's including me..and both me and nistrum are semi stripped.


the question here is..should nanotechnicians be unresistable, while all other proffesions arent?
YES or NO

my answer is no, and no u cannot talk me out of that.

[Shrubberyman]

I'm not talking anyone out of their delusions, in particular when they say "NT's are crying blabla" in a whine thread about NTs pre balancing and pre LE toolset...

[msbish]

delusions? i think both CB and dubbles is beeing removed(wonder why that is..) but only time wil tell im done with this discussion

[RedWatr]

this is funny, the same exact "cry me a river" thread in 2 locations, being kept alive by the same trolls, lol.

[RedWatr]

delusions? i think both CB and dubbles is beeing removed(wonder why that is..) but only time wil tell im done with this discussion

nobody said anything about CB being removed, not even a word, maybe stick to the facts.

[Shrubberyman]

You heard him, he's done with this discussion :/

[Drakeep]

You heard him, he's done with this discussion :/

Loosers are always done, expecially when u bring up facts.

About mp tl5 and nt tl5, doubles/triples made roll tons and tons and tons of nt, expecially at tl5. Before none rolled a class that sucks at pvp and pvm, until u hit tl7. (Forget to mention that the few nts that existed in the past, was been rolled for kiting purposes, now u can't)

The growth of tl5 nt wasen't dued to CB/OS/flurry that exists from anarchy prehistory, but from le nukes.

And honestly, what's the part in an pvp session of an nt, wout double/triples? Only one ... NS2 fullagg and ninja totp. That's usefull tattic to pwn enfo. But except lobotomized ones, that will stay getting nuked while u NS2, they will run like mofos, waits for NS2 off and gank u to reclaim.

In my tl5 nt experience i went in deffocus few times, when there was too many enfos/agents to stay in off-focus.

Ppls whines about the large damage delivered by nts nuke, u will deliver more damage using ferocius impactor missile, than using SL nukes on lowhp twinks. Before totp+doubles was a nice combo.

Some said that nt's got damage perks too, here they are:

Nano Feast (ar based) 100 %
Hostile Takeover(Psychic+Intelligence) nr 100%

While nano feast lands nicely, gl landing Hostile Takeover w/out nr debuff.

So, assuming that le nukes will be taken away, and damage cap will be the same, an actual nt DD will sucks in pvp and pvm.

Proly a good setup for a pvp tl5 nt will be weaponed (aka no SL nukes), and casting RK nukes, that will lands once on a newmoon wout OS.

[howlin]

Lower it down to 100 NR debuff, make it last 15 seconds + removable with VS.
No need to remove it then.

[Parranoid1]

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My goodness you are a dense one arnt you.

You are so adimant about your NT yet you mind is so closed to the proposed nano weaving mechanic.

shut the hell up and think about it, or go read up on it. ALL SL NUKES ARE GETTING REWORKED.

NANOS WILL HAVE DIFFERENT EFFECTS WHEN CAST WITH OTHER NANOS.

so for example, if you use an ice based nano, then say a fire based nano you may get X bonus.

If you cast a water based nuke then an electrisity based nuke you may get Y bonus of extra damage etc.

This will be replacing LE nukes.

Not to mention that you will be able to cast defensive and offensive nanos at the same time.

God you are annoying, learn about the changes happening to your class.

[sultryvoltron]

My goodness you are a dense one arnt you.

You are so adimant about your NT yet you mind is so closed to the proposed nano weaving mechanic.

shut the hell up and think about it, or go read up on it. ALL SL NUKES ARE GETTING REWORKED.

NANOS WILL HAVE DIFFERENT EFFECTS WHEN CAST WITH OTHER NANOS.

so for example, if you use an ice based nano, then say a fire based nano you may get X bonus.

If you cast a water based nuke then an electrisity based nuke you may get Y bonus of extra damage etc.

This will be replacing LE nukes.

Not to mention that you will be able to cast defensive and offensive nanos at the same time.

God you are annoying, learn about the changes happening to your class.

And if you cast a Radiation nano followed by a Chemical nano it lowers the opponent's NR by 1000 and stacks 3 times. Oh wait... this discussion truly is useless isn't it?

[imboredffs]

Maybe Constant Barrage and other "OP" NT nanos should be nerf on casting time

For example : modifie the cap to cast them or cast a self negative effect on NT's init every time he use this...

[xquality]

change cb to 90% and with slightly higher recharge, and it debuffs only 500 and can stack only 2 times.

[sultryvoltron]

change cb to 90% and with slightly higher recharge, and it debuffs only 500 and can stack only 2 times.

If a NANO that is designed to land NANOS easier has a NR CHECK as HIGH as the NANOS you want to cast, then what is the point of the debuff NANO?

[-Klod-]

If a NANO that is designed to land NANOS easier has a NR CHECK as HIGH as the NANOS you want to cast, then what is the point of the debuff NANO?

To land those "other" nanos easier?

[sultryvoltron]

yeah bump for all other professions to have -1k debuff stacking 3 times for primary weapon. Doh brainiac

Yeah, it's as stupid as the Soldier dodge debuff perks that check dodge.

To land those "other" nanos easier?

Why bother casting it if it was a 90% check? If you can land it, you don't need it, and you can't land it on the people you need to.


Let's face it, ever since SL NT's have had a largely unresistable nuking toolset.

IU: 53% check.
Touch of the Pyre: 66: check.
Etc etc etc.

The ONLY reason people are crying now is because of Doubles and Triples. Hey, guess what? Those are going away. Also, we have no idea what the future nano checks for NTs will be. This discussion is completely fruitless until we know more information about the DRASTIC changes for the NT profession.

[navycut]

Yeah, it's as stupid as the Soldier dodge debuff perks that check dodge.

That's a very stupid comparison.
Can you spam perks? No.
Can you spam nanos until they land? Yes.

[-Klod-]

Why bother casting it if it was a 90% check?

So you can land those more damaging, "other" nanos easier?

Anyways, NR debuff perks will land easily on other people after the rebalance, no matter how much AAD they have, so there's no need to use this OP'd nano anymore. It should just be reworked into NP buff, that's all.

[Parranoid1]

Yeah, it's as stupid as the Soldier dodge debuff perks that check dodge.

Why bother casting it if it was a 90% check? If you can land it, you don't need it, and you can't land it on the people you need to.


Let's face it, ever since SL NT's have had a largely unresistable nuking toolset.

IU: 53% check.
Touch of the Pyre: 66: check.
Etc etc etc.

The ONLY reason people are crying now is because of Doubles and Triples. Hey, guess what? Those are going away. Also, we have no idea what the future nano checks for NTs will be. This discussion is completely fruitless until we know more information about the DRASTIC changes for the NT profession.

then if they are going away and you have these near unresistable nukes left why would you care if CB is nerfed? wouldnt it make no difference to you?

[sultryvoltron]

then if they are going away and you have these near unresistable nukes left why would you care if CB is nerfed? wouldnt it make no difference to you?

I actually don't have an NT, except a TL3 one who is a long ways off from using CB, thanks.

But you do bring up a valid point, WHY IS THIS BEING DISCUSSED AT ALL WHEN NOT A SINGLE ONE OF YOU KNOWS WHAT THE FUTURE WILL HOLD FOR THE NT PROFESSION?

That's a very stupid comparison.
Can you spam perks? No.
Can you spam nanos until they land? Yes.

It's not stupid at all. Dodge debuff checking Dodge, NR debuff checking NR. Can soldiers do other things while they wait for the perk to recharge? You bet they can. Can an NT do anything while waiting for that nano to recharge?

So you can land those more damaging, "other" nanos easier?

Anyways, NR debuff perks will land easily on other people after the rebalance, no matter how much AAD they have, so there's no need to use this OP'd nano anymore. It should just be reworked into NP buff, that's all.

Guess what? NR checking nukes, so far, look to work exactly the same in the near future. There's no need to use those soon to be OP'd perks ever. They should be reworked into Breaking and Entering temp perk buffs.

[Shrubberyman]

yeah bump for all other professions to have -1k debuff stacking 3 times for primary weapon. Doh brainiac

Yea, because NTs use exactly the same mechanics as the 13 other profs to attack and defend... You're a genius.

To land those "other" nanos easier?

In the current situation, if there's one thing NTs don't need, it's more unreliable tools. It's bothering enough that CC and Blinds are so often useless already.

Can you spam nanos until they land? Yes.

Define spamming. Because the nanos which are a worth casting CB are mostly LE nukes, which in my book don't qualify as spammable.

then if they are going away and you have these near unresistable nukes left why would you care if CB is nerfed? wouldnt it make no difference to you?

The answer is in the question. CB-like nanos might have no point at all after the rebalancing, which for NTs mean their new casting mechanics and their reviewed nanolines. Prior to any change made to our casting mechanic, our toolset is to stay untouched.