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Thread: End the Random Rolls

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    End the Random Rolls

    Looking at most the whines and complaints from everyone on the forums, the dominant factor in almost all the threads is based on one player having lucky rolls while they have bad luck, and then immediately make a QQ thread about it (the other threads are about being in melee range and sync). So to end the "permastunned", alphad through AMS, capped with FA 10 times in a row, SA always hitting min damage, nukes always landing, etc etc etc how about we just get rid of all random chance in AO?

    If FC is going to revamp everything it would not be that hard a feat really. All you need is to set the current % chance to fire every xxx hits. To determine if your special lands, each level should have an exact def check, if it clears it you hit, if it fails you miss. Perks % effects could simply fire only if enough defense has been passed (a seperate check even). LE procs and others, should fire every xxx amount of shots and land even count misses. Regular hits could even work like the procs, allowing you only so many hits per someones def level.

    Honestly, wouldn't this be so much better than having to come on the forums and make a whine thread just because you are unlucky while pvping one day? Random luck is totally for RK4, lets make AO as static and predictable as possible, then we could easily balance everything.

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    Great idea!

    Lets make it all about skill instead of random chance.
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    the reason there is random chance in the game is so it doesn't apear as repedative as it really is. if thigs were set, then people would twink to a certain point, then place all reamaining effort in the opposing side of there setup (off and def). random is fun, makes it so ourtcomes arent "set in stone"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostlife View Post
    the reason there is random chance in the game is so it doesn't apear as repedative as it really is. if thigs were set, then people would twink to a certain point, then place all reamaining effort in the opposing side of there setup (off and def). random is fun, makes it so ourtcomes arent "set in stone"
    BUT!!!! What about times where people just can't seem to catch a break on BS or in duels? It gets so bad people have to resort to what is obviously the only thing they can do, post a QQ thread in the forums.

    Dueling, mass pvp, or simply random pvp fights, they would all be so much better without random chance. We could line up, show our stats to each other and go ahead and even skip the fights themselves. Just do /duel, /duel quit for whoever is supposed to lose and all is good and heck someone could even have time to hit duel title 10 at those speeds.

    Honestly, who are we going to cater to if not the people that get hit with capped SA's a little too much, or get debuffed by someone who needs to debuff you "frequently", and die? Just letting em make a new thread every hour on the forums obviously is not working, we need to do something about the serious issue of things working...sometimes, randomly, for the other guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatester View Post
    We could line up, show our stats to each other and go ahead and even skip the fights themselves. Just do /duel, /duel quit for whoever is supposed to lose and all is good and heck someone could even have time to hit duel title 10 at those speeds.
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    I don't think the issue you talk about is whit the game, but with the gamers (only some of them). Just give these whiners a basic course in statistics or something.
    A little luck factors makes things exciting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdtaatdE View Post
    Just give these whiners a basic course in statistics or something.
    Or just forum ban anyone posting an AO related whine post anywhere on the forums.
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    Obviously the only proper solution is basing it entirely on who contorts his/her tongue the most while fighting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatester View Post
    Dueling, mass pvp, or simply random pvp fights, they would all be so much better without random chance. We could line up, show our stats to each other and go ahead and even skip the fights themselves.
    Yep, that sounds riveting alright.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatester View Post
    Honestly, who are we going to cater to if not the people that get hit with capped SA's a little too much, or get debuffed by someone who needs to debuff you "frequently", and die?
    I believe that's what Hello Kitty Island Adventures is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain97 View Post
    Obviously the only proper solution is basing it entirely on who contorts his/her tongue the most while fighting.
    No no. The best racing game drivers are the ones who steer the most with the controller. Bonus points for hard lefts that result in smacking the guy sat to your left in the face with the controller.

    So in AO, it's who has the biggest epileptic fit while playing a Fixer and dodging bullets.
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    if alpha always does the same dmg then some ppl always die to it and others never do making alphas yet another prof1>prof2 or prof1<prof2 tool, another issue that would arise is all capping specials would do considerably more dps because right now the rolls combined with cap are nerfing the average hits

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    /sarcasm for the win. Nice one Gatester, I almost thought you were being serious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauerdriod View Post
    /sarcasm for the win. Nice one Gatester, I almost thought you were being serious
    lol yeah i thought he was being serious up until

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatester View Post
    Dueling, mass pvp, or simply random pvp fights, they would all be so much better without random chance. We could line up, show our stats to each other and go ahead and even skip the fights themselves. Just do /duel, /duel quit for whoever is supposed to lose and all is good and heck someone could even have time to hit duel title 10 at those speeds.
    then i was like, hang on a tick!
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