Making Old School Scopes worth something, without touching them!!!

[_____________Pays007]

OK, after you nerf the Old School LLTS, simply change the TS-VE's to go in Hud1 instead of 3, then remove the init debuffs from LLTS!!!

There ya go, you can nerf the LLTS, tweak the VEs and make people happy!!!

Ohh no..... wait, making people happy would be wrong

[__________Lucid Flow]

Originally posted by Pays007
Ohh no..... wait, making people happy would be wrong

Usually making people happy involves unbalancing the game.

[Okatek]

Usually making people happy involves unbalancing the game.

We shud have a poll on that..

[Naels]

Uhh, your car / yalm goes in Hud1. No one in their right mind would sacrifice having to get all those perception buffs again just to stick a scope on. That would be ludicris.

[Mercatura]

Usually making people happy involves unbalancing the game.

If the game is perfectly "balanced" on paper (people throw the word around a lot, and often their version means they are uber and anything they don't like is not) and no one is happy, is that a good thing?

Granted his idea sounds like a way for everyone to keep a real high crit value, and probably wouldn't fly.

BTW Voislav, raise runspeed. I rarely use my yalm, only on trips to places without good whompa/grid points nearby. Fixers wouldn't have to care, thats for sure

[locomdenom]

Wrong.

Slot 1 is for my Yatamutchy extender for outdoors hunting.

[kyleb]

I still don't see how 6 points on crit is sooo uber and must be nerfed. I paid good $ for my scope and I wanna keep it just how it is.

[Coldbird]

Originally posted by Voislav
Uhh, your car / yalm goes in Hud1. No one in their right mind would sacrifice having to get all those perception buffs again just to stick a scope on. That would be ludicris.

If it was the other way around, with the old LLTS going in Hud1, I'd do it. Yalm's kinda handy, but as a fixer with going on 1300 runspeed, it's not that big a loss. I'd only lose the ability to go to one or two places.

Then again, I've posted before that I think AO would be a better game were the Yalm to have never existed, so take that how you will.

Also, keep in mind that other classes could simply either a) self-buff their perception back (advs), or fly without a Yalm (MPs). So it wouldn't shaft everyone.

[cold]

No! Don't just remove the init debuff, make it an init boost! And I want to crit EVERY HIT! Make me happy! Screw all the others who I am going to kill in 3 shots in the arena! Hahaha!

[_________Kalashnakof]

i dont see what the fuss is about the LLTS. The scopes themselves are a bizatch to put on for most classes. For instance myself a soldier with dark blue EE and lighter blue WS. And second of all the init penalties are viscious as shaat. The high end so-called "unbalancing" scopes have insane minus inits that can slow u down to half your fire speed before.

Ill show myself for example, i have 450 init with a 8% scope only with the 3 200 clusters 2 200 kevlar pads and nomad jubilee chestplate?(i dont like to rely on OS which i cant selfcast) lvl 156 has to struggle to get 450 init?!? and dont tell me a 8% a less then 1 out of 10 chance to crit is that good at all. i think their fine atm. at the very most they can use a small init or range tweak i think.

[______________Yazule]

Originally posted by Kalashnakof
i dont see what the fuss is about the LLTS. The scopes themselves are a bizatch to put on for most classes. For instance myself a soldier with dark blue EE and lighter blue WS. And second of all the init penalties are viscious as shaat. The high end so-called "unbalancing" scopes have insane minus inits that can slow u down to half your fire speed before.

Ill show myself for example, i have 450 init with a 8% scope only with the 3 200 clusters 2 200 kevlar pads and nomad jubilee chestplate?(i dont like to rely on OS which i cant selfcast) lvl 156 has to struggle to get 450 init?!? and dont tell me a 8% a less then 1 out of 10 chance to crit is that good at all. i think their fine atm. at the very most they can use a small init or range tweak i think.

now look at a 15% scope, add 3% for being alive, add 1% per title level, put an MA buff on and voila you are critting 3-4 in 10, that is almost half of the time. Now lets say you ARE an ma, you crit more than half of the time.

imbalancing? only if there are few with this ability. either drop llts or nerf them, one or the other. Just my 2 creds

[__________THEDEACON!]

Not too imbalancing, because non crit MA hits aren't very impressive at all

[________________Enri]

Originally posted by Coldbird
Also, keep in mind that other classes could simply either a) self-buff their perception back (advs), or fly without a Yalm (MPs). So it wouldn't shaft everyone.

Hey adventurers can fly without a yalm! Only 80 more levels to go!

[__________THEDEACON!]

yeah and adventurers get to fly without looking all femmy like MPs. Back in my days of wearing nanocloaks, Id get at least one perv an hour trying to look up my "dress".

[______________Sara79]

According to the New York Times (I think) They are going to Nerf the scope Nerf...

In other words, they aren't doing it anymore... or at least its not going to be that bad. Ill try to find the link and post it here.

[__________AsclepIIus]

Originally posted by Lucid Flow


Usually making people happy involves unbalancing the game.

Do you think that because you are.... super gimp? You picked the 'best' profession but couldnt play it or you just have 1 char. You dont want ANYONE to be better than your Super Gimp so you call for nerfs instead of the NEEDED fix.

[_______________Nieth]

when the game is balanaced ppl ***** just as much as when it isn't, it's just that at that point what they say is pure whining, not based on any actual problems, just cuz ur a bitter power gamer doesn't mean u hafta hate on others clankiller4