Dance of Fools

[McKnuckleSamwich]

@ qualinas, totally right.

If an advy staggers his defences, 40 sec DOF, 40 sec limber+coon, 40 sec DOF

Thats a full 2 minutes of basically untouchable.

I think Acrobat needs needs to go to whatever luiza said in the OP.

The only problem is that it'll nerf the crap out of MA's and shades.

[Scottik]

Just make it MA/Shade only then? And give advs some minor defense perk line but nowhere near to acrobat. Just my guess.

[Graftmage]

Just make it MA/Shade only then? And give advs some minor defense perk line but nowhere near to acrobat. Just my guess.

Or make DoF shade/ma/fixer only. Limber can stay as it is.

[Insane666]

Or make DoF shade/ma/fixer only. Limber can stay as it is.

that would be a good change, adressing the issue of the prof thats actually oped while using dof ( combined with coon and heals ) while not royally screwing up those with much less complex defenses, or even more, whose only real defenses are their evades

[erozc]

So you don't think that the so-called "heal nerf" will affect advie survivability adversely enough? The hurt for advies from that will quite likely be in a different ballpark than any other acro professions.

Oh and by the way, for the record. Removing Acrobat 4 would be quite the profession defining change. If anything, bio cocoon is the candidate for removal out of those two. There still should be a potent offensively focused perkline as a replacement, as with the perk changes there will be quite the lack of AAO for any non-trox adventurer versus several professions.

[Emmaheart]

raising to 2k is just making them invincible for that amt of time.. but I'm not complaining since they're already op for the entire duration of the perk at the moment.

[Graftmage]

So you don't think that the so-called "heal nerf" will affect advie survivability adversely enough?

Nope. Sadly, "heal nerf" will only affect nanocost.

[erozc]

Nope. Sadly, "heal nerf" will only affect nanocost.

How could you know the magnitude of this change? It's not like there aren't nano draining items or actions in game to make this stand out.

[lostlife]

How could you know the magnitude of this change? It's not like there aren't nano draining items or actions in game to make this stand out.

NDA means s/he cant directly tell us things like magnitude

the most notable nano drainers are GTH, some MA attack i believe, and NR perks. GTH is being nerfed in some way, MA attack can only be used if MA isa ctually there, NR perks are a rarity.

there are also ways of getting that nano back, FA stims, notum thing from smugglers den, genious perk, nano delta...

[McKnuckleSamwich]

yea, nerfing nanocost on advy heals is like saying we're going increase the price on first aid stims and hope it slows down the froobs.

pff. what needs a nerf is DOF/coon.

[Parranoid1]

yea, nerfing nanocost on advy heals is like saying we're going increase the price on first aid stims and hope it slows down the froobs.

pff. what needs a nerf is DOF/coon.

hmmm i dont know. if its increased to the point where they have to pick to either A) heal with normals normally for the whole duel but no advy CH (this is at tl5 tho) or B) use regulars sparingly and get off maybe one CH. could maybe help balance things up.

at tl7 it would help them not just be able to just stand around forever, since their heals wont be as effective

[Jekonam]

Or make DoF shade/ma/fixer only. Limber can stay as it is.

They should have done this long time ago.

[rapp3d]

They should have done this long time ago.

ya ppl all telling this dont really consider adv same as ma/fixer/shade do you?
you still realising that all those proffs have another perk lines to be evade oriented eh?
or u just talk ADV NEED NERF w/o thinking what u talking at all?
i bet for last one

[navycut]

ya ppl all telling this dont really consider adv same as ma/fixer/shade do you?
you still realising that all those proffs have another perk lines to be evade oriented eh?
or u just talk ADV NEED NERF w/o thinking what u talking at all?
i bet for last one

Another perkline or not the only prof that has significantly more evades than an adv is a fixer.

MAs have similar and shades have similar.

Of course you have an adv and want to retain your unkillable status and don't really care about anything else.

[rapp3d]

MAs have similar and shades have similar.

i stopped read after this

go to www.auno.org
get a calculator
calc how adv have mroe evades than shade or ma
come back here and explain

[navycut]

I didn't say more, now did I? I said similar which mean close to.

[lostlife]

its not acro, its the combination of acro+coon+heals
no one of these tools are over powered, but used in combination can make things very difficult.