Thread: I'm tired of reused Inventory Graphics..

  1. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by Docaholic View Post
    As I said way back in the beginning of all this.. I 'guessed' that the final icon size is 48x48..

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...rlay_Size1.jpg

    If you look at this image, the Underlay I made is a 48x48 gradient filled box with a 1 pixel border and the outer corner pixel of the 48x48 box is colored to match the border. This gives a quick 'rounded' corner look to the box.

    Beside it is an actual inventory underlay icon from AO. it is 54x54 in size. I took a 48x48 size box and stamped it centered on the AO icon. the 48x48 icon seemed a perfect fit. So, I guessed that the actual icon sizes used in AO are 48x48.

    I also noticed that all the icon images at Auno.org or the aodb site are 48x48 .gif images. Scanning screen shots of the game with many backpacks open (zooming in) seemed to support that the icons in AO are using a 256 color 8-bit palette.

    That is how I arrived at the 'Guess' of the final icon size being 48x48 in AO.

    That said, I am still waiting for replies to my Inquiries about the 'official' icon size and file format. (I sure hope they can use .png images in the new engine with proper alpha channel transparencies) I can make my icons 256 color .gif with a transparency, I got the tools to do it. But my fingers are crossed for .png support in the new engine.

    There it is in a nutshell, everything I know about the AO icons.

    Cheers!

    P.S. I added a 4th icon that I made based on the current AO Underlay, using the AO colors but upgrading the gradient fill and icon to 24 bit color.
    In that case, the sphere looks a tiny bit small...
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  2. #382

    To much subtlety

    In the nanoprogramingthingamagigathingy. Not easy to distinguish at a glance. Need more obvious change i think.
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  3. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by Docaholic View Post
    Earlier in the thread there was a similar request regarding the JAME blaster.Prototype.. I made some quick examples of how simply recoloring the existing models could help distinguish some of the 'reused' items in the game..

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2..._Prog_Int1.jpg

    I did this quick adjustment to the Nano Programming Interface, is the change too subtle? or is this the type of thing you had in mind?..

    Cheers!
    I believe that the request was to alter the Cold Stone, not the nanoprogramming interface. The idea of altering the Cold Stone is to create an icon for the "Sentient Cold Stone".
    If there is any item closely related to the Nanoprogramming interface, this could be used I guess, but I don't know any.

    Nano Targeting Helper (and probably others) use the same icon as Nanoprogramming interface, but I'd say more then a subtle change is in order to distinguish those...
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  4. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by EdtaatdE View Post
    I believe that the request was to alter the Cold Stone, not the nanoprogramming interface. The idea of altering the Cold Stone is to create an icon for the "Sentient Cold Stone".
    DOH! (a senior moment for sure! LoL)

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  5. #385
    I may not be in any official position, but I have reliable information on the icons, having written my own database exporter and web interface. The icons are in PNG format, with pure green (#00FF00) as transparent color. No idea why they didn't use alpha channel. Also, the client seems to be somewhat lax with the transparency, as some icons look like they've gone through JPEG compression and have slightly off-green colors that still are transparent (such as #00FC00). Most of them are 48x48 pixels in size, but Xan spirits are 64x64, so apparently the client can handle larger icons as well (no idea of resampling quality though).

    Out of curiosity, I executed a query to my item database to find out which icons are the most common. Unsurprisingly, implants top the list, with the right-hand implant icon racking up 9154 uses. Various nanoformula related items (grafts, pills, nanocrystals) are also fairly common, with several hundred instances of each. Same goes for construction kits. The first really interesting icon on the list is the basic SMG icon (335 uses). Another common one is this bracer icon, due to its extensive use in Arul Saba bracelets (315 uses). The most common ring graphic is this one, used in a whole lot of filigree rings, as well as a few others (285 uses).

  6. #386
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikenche View Post
    .... 9154 uses ... several hundred instances of each. .... (335 uses) .... (315 uses). ..... (285 uses)
    Gogo Docaholic, you've got work to do!

    (gets ready to catch a fainting Docaholic)
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  7. #387
    whoaw i just noticed the pic on the 1st post, dam u tryin to work for FC or what lol

    BIG BAD BUMP im also tired of having to check damned names to know whats an item, instead of just lookin at them.
    liars are the real losers

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  8. #388
    Having read the entire thread, after stumbling over it looking for something completely different, I just have to give it a bump.

    Those are some lubly icons you have made there Doc.

    Only one I didnt like, was the not-final Barrow shoulder fleshy thingy. Would be awesome as a yalm though - I would want one =)

  9. #389
    Quote Originally Posted by Docaholic View Post
    That said, I am still waiting for replies to my Inquiries about the 'official' icon size and file format. (I sure hope they can use .png images in the new engine with proper alpha channel transparencies) I can make my icons 256 color .gif with a transparency, I got the tools to do it. But my fingers are crossed for .png support in the new engine.
    This is what they use for now. Straight from current client DB, nothing modified.

    EDIT: With some exceptions it seems...
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  10. #390
    OW OW!! The GREEN it hurts!!!
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  11. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Docaholic View Post
    I did this quick adjustment to the Nano Programming Interface, is the change too subtle? or is this the type of thing you had in mind?..

    Cheers!
    Yeah, a subtle adjustment would most likely do the trick as the base item is the same. I'm sure we're talking the same language here

    Edited: Though I didn't really understand why you went on to modify the nano programming interface glad that was figured out.
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  12. #392
    Right well I just spend about 30 minutes getting through all the pages of this thread and I am amazed. Keep up the awesome work :P.

    P.S. Have you thought about looking into the Ofab rings? That ME ring u made would be real nice as the engi one .
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  13. #393
    bump
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  15. #395
    RL hit me these last few days, no worries I'll be posting new stuff soon

    Cheers!
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  16. #396
    bamp
    Just finished setting up prefs and client crashed.

  17. #397
    Any status updates Docaholic?

  18. #398
    Here is a small Recap of some rings and stuff.. there are new rings etc in the batch, so Enjoy!

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ff_Recap01.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ff_Recap02.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...Gem_Chart1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s_Sample-1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...olor_Test1.jpg

    Cheers!

    P.S. I'm still waiting for 'Official Word' from FC, so no news on that front.
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  19. #399
    *faints* Overdose! I'm going to turn *list-mode* off! I also feel like I'm running out of bankspace .

    I think there is a lot of new rings in there. At least a lot of them with new colors and patterns... but also some completely different of what I remember seeing before. The metal on the Kyr'Ozch Data Core also makes it look nice .
    Then there is a bunch of necklaces or rings or "?" I don't remember seeing earlier . They look nice as well
    Those 2 guns also seem to have something extra that makes them look prety cool .

    All very nice! The only thing I don't consider perfect yet is those cracked gems.
    To make sure the end is not the 'bad' comment: overall it's awesome-sauce!
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  20. #400

    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by Docaholic View Post
    Here is a small Recap of some rings and stuff.. there are new rings etc in the batch, so Enjoy!

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ff_Recap01.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...ff_Recap02.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...Gem_Chart1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s_Sample-1.jpg

    http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...olor_Test1.jpg

    Cheers!

    P.S. I'm still waiting for 'Official Word' from FC, so no news on that front.
    Really nice, can't wait to see them ingame and the data core looks good too now, like EdtaatdE said.

    Thanks for the update Docaholic.

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