NT Perk Changes: Nano Heals

[Hacre]

I find the changes to Nano Heal from the Essence of Notum perk line a mixed bag of "yay" and "awww".

Yay because of the halved recharge. Awww, because instead of healing nano by a static amount (4000) it now has a range of 2.4k-4k.

I know I know, technically over time it's more nano, but NTs most often use this in one of two situations:

To boost nano while taking damage under nanobot guard,
To heal up nano after using nanobot guard.

Otherwise it doesn't get touched. There's little use in knowing I get another shot in 60s, if the amount it healed for was only 2.4k as opposed to the current 4k I know I'll get right now because in 60s NBG will be out so that shorter recharge makes very little difference.

I do like the shorter attack time on Tap Notum Source though, it's a shame the lockout is still 6 minutes.

[Keex]

balance is about loosing as well, you know.

it's funny to see that everyone thinks "balancing" means love for every profession ^_^

[Hacre]

balance is about loosing as well, you know.

it's funny to see that everyone thinks "balancing" means love for every profession ^_^

Uh yeah..

It's also about fixing unnecessary problems with tools FC have handed out over the years.

Would you like it if your AMS had a longer downtime than uptime? How about if during the downtime, you couldn't fire your gun?

I'm not asking for a 40k nano heal or anything like it. I'm querying why the amount it refills needed a nerf when it's still not a fast nano heal and didn't heal that much to begin with, while NTs have been crying out for better ways to refill nano from zero to at least half-3/4 since things like NBG downtime and GTH came along.

I'm not asking for "love" as you put it, I'm asking for a -fix-, one that's been needed for quite some time.

The shortened recharge on the perk is nice but the chances of healing anything less than even 10% of nanopool (which isn't even a capped special, FYI) takes most of the nice out of it and it seems rather unnecessary, when the perk was never and would not be overpowered without the nerf.

[Mountaingoat]

Btw that perk will work on the team now won't it?

[Drakeep]

i agree with hacre, if you change nano heals that way please consider to reduce the impact of damage over nanopoints

[Hacre]

i agree with hacre, if you change nano heals that way please consider to reduce the impact of damage over nanopoints

I think the damage to nano conversion is fine, apart from it penalising you for a HP build (though that's lessened a lot by Izzy's Wealth).

I just don't quite get why a positive is immediately ran into by a negative. It's a pattern a lot of NT stuff has taken and I think Means and co should take the opportunity to stop doing that and get the modifications right and balanced without an annoying drawback in the first place.

However, positives are there. I love what's been done with Flim Focus and Utilize.

@ Mountaingoat: Yes it is a team nano heal.

[Axtilmor]

Hacre's right that the heal was only used rarely--during or just after NBG. NTs don't have much use for a 2k/min personal nano healing outside of those two instances. However, it is now a 3.2k/min (on average) team nano heal. Presumably the incoming changes to healing and nano regeneration will make this much more valuable in a team in a team, as well.

While I agree that it is useful in the NBG situations above, I'm happy with the change if it increases our team desirability. I think the true problem lies with the heavy cost of NBG.

[Hacre]

Hacre's right that the heal was only used rarely--during or just after NBG. NTs don't have much use for a 2k/min personal nano healing outside of those two instances. However, it is now a 3.2k/min (on average) team nano heal. Presumably the incoming changes to healing and nano regeneration will make this much more valuable in a team in a team, as well.

While I agree that it is useful in the NBG situations above, I'm happy with the change if it increases our team desirability. I think the true problem lies with the heavy cost of NBG.

Good point, however we already have our team viability in the fact that 215+ NTs are now excellent damage dealers, unrivalled even in AI raids/APF. NTs in S42 can OD a good SMG soldier by a factor of 4 and only lose out to the best SMG solds and good Shades in SL. NTs are definitely where they should be in terms of damage as well as bringing some crowd control, which makes team desirability just fine.

I know it probably sounds like nitpicking, but there just isn't any need to have it on a nerfy range. It's fine with the recharge reduced while keeping it at a static 4k heal. There's nothing overpowered in that.

[sultryvoltron]

I know it probably sounds like nitpicking, but there just isn't any need to have it on a nerfy range. It's fine with the recharge reduced while keeping it at a static 4k heal. There's nothing overpowered in that.

I could agree with that. I wonder why they changed it to be honest.

[Hulk]

they should make the nano dmg conversion 150% for all breeds - trox <3

[Drakeep]

they should make the nano dmg conversion 150% for all breeds - trox <3

ehehe trox nts are uber already as they are... wit + more hp ftw :P

[Hacre]

ehehe trox nt are uber already as they are... wit + more hp ftw :P

I'd kill for Wit. An evade setup NT with Wit is pretty evil.

Though I don't mind sphere.

[Stinnipeng]

You are already among the best offencive wise, definately not too bad on the defencive side either...

So how about whining that your nano-regain perks get nerfed, its not like they are ripping NBG away from you, and you still have that izgimmers wealth thing going... and thats overpowered...

If you can't see that your prof is overpowered, you need to roll an alt and try to kill a NT...

[Solstiare]

I have two accounts full of alts, and one NT. The &#$%ing init time on the nano perks is too_damn_ slow. Gain some objectivity, roll an NT, play past 200, and then comment.

[Mastablasta]

You are already among the best offencive wise, definately not too bad on the defencive side either...

So how about whining that your nano-regain perks get nerfed, its not like they are ripping NBG away from you, and you still have that izgimmers wealth thing going... and thats overpowered...

If you can't see that your prof is overpowered, you need to roll an alt and try to kill a NT...

I try to kill NTs on NT, it's not really a problem.

[Hacre]

You are already among the best offencive wise, definately not too bad on the defencive side either...

So how about whining that your nano-regain perks get nerfed, its not like they are ripping NBG away from you, and you still have that izgimmers wealth thing going... and thats overpowered...

If you can't see that your prof is overpowered, you need to roll an alt and try to kill a NT...

The NT was my alt. And you know what? It's one of the professions I can still kill with my Keeper.

Needing to use your brain against an NT instead of smashing buttons != an overpowered profession.

[Solstiare]

Last post of the changes (oct 30th) suggests that it is still 4k self on the high end, but anyone you are teamed with gets the lower modifier

[Hacre]

Last post of the changes (oct 30th) suggests that it is still 4k self on the high end, but anyone you are teamed with gets the lower modifier

Hmm still looks like a range of nano healing to me, 2.4k - 4k every 60s.