Friday with Means - October 9th, 2009 - Parry and Riposte - Back from the dead!

**Sikkii** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:41:40

Why are some people talking about having spare IP for Rip and Parry like EVERY melee profession is supposed to have epic ripo and parry. The only professions that should be uber roxxor with these new ripo and parry updates should be SHADE, MA, and KEEPERS since they have actual buffs for them and what not. For every other melee profession it will be just a convenience depending if u wanna gimp something else to up those skills, DUHHH!

**Manaas** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:41:59

Bullets cant change direction in mid-air but nanobot enhanced muscles can change the direction of a melee weapon in a split second.

This is why melee can parry bullets but ranged cannot evade melee attacks

**Towerblock** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:45:50

Originally Posted by Xenotric

Sort of like the OT Backup Pundit, Very Nice MTI SO1210 and Galahad Inc. 055 Police Lobster?

But without the other stats and some decent damage? :P

Those dont count. UPDATED shotgun with FA is what im hinting at.

**Raggy** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:48:01

This is epic. Can't wait to see it working

**Eseb** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:48:54

I hope the parry thing will only work against melee users. It would be stupid to allow people to parry bullets. And since you're making it parry specials, I hope you can see how stupid it'd be to be able to parry a whole barrage of 20+ bullets from an FA.

**Klod9000** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:56:12

Originally Posted by Romaas

Bullets cant change direction in mid-air but nanobot enhanced muscles can change the direction of a melee weapon in a split second.

Dude, 40k years in the future, bullets will be able to drive cars and babysit children. Not to mention easy stuff like changing direction, once fired from the ultramodern nanobot improved weapon.

**Aethyrguard** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:57:31

Originally Posted by Eseb

I hope the parry thing will only work against melee users. It would be stupid to allow people to parry bullets. And since you're making it parry specials, I hope you can see how stupid it'd be to be able to parry a whole barrage of 20+ bullets from an FA.

Your hopes are to be crushed and I am quite happy that they will be. Your reasoning is flawed and that is half of why I am not feeling you on this one.

**Raggy** · Oct 9th, 2009, 17:58:12

Also, is there any idea when we might see this change roll out (Both Test and Live)? Or is this still very pen and paper theory?

**Levantine** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:05:19

Originally Posted by Means

I had hopes this week for us being able to share the plans for ALL perks and actions accross all professions this week. Unfortunately it isn't going to happen as we really feel we need to make the ENTIRE plan concerning research, perks, nanos and other changes available at the same time or the changes to perks will only be taken out of context...and a source of MORE questions and argument as opposed to LESS.

Surprise? Didn't see that coming....

**Hacre** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:06:32

Originally Posted by TheMekon

yay for parry and riposte returning and being effectively useless to 90% of the playerbase..

Dont get me wrong, great to see that you are still flogging such a dead horse that nobody really gives a damn about.

Yeah, screw developing/fixing things that only affect about 3 professions, right? 3 professions that need some attention currently, right?

Yeah screw that, lousy idea.

Moron.

Originally Posted by Eseb

I hope the parry thing will only work against melee users. It would be stupid to allow people to parry bullets. And since you're making it parry specials, I hope you can see how stupid it'd be to be able to parry a whole barrage of 20+ bullets from an FA.

Pssssst. It's SCI FI.

**Sikkii** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:06:57

The Parry thing is only a CHANCE, not a 100% so no one should panic that thier specials gonna get parried every single time. TWO it last like 10secs and has a lock, so it's not as OP as some ppl think it is. THREE ranged professions already got thier love, such as new pistol perks and new fixer full auto perks...like rly what more do they need currently? They have roots and some have snares. And I think since everyone is confused about what the new parry and ripo actions can be used by MA, Keepers, and Shade

Inb4 trolling responses ><

**Aethyrguard** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:11:35

Originally Posted by hacre

yeah, screw developing/fixing things that only affect about 3 professions, right? 3 professions that need some attention currently, right?

Yeah screw that, lousy idea.

Moron.

Pssssst. It's sci fi.

qft!

**Tanana** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:16:09

The Parry and Riposte stuff looks very interesting.

Question about the mail system. I can see that there is a 'Expires' section in the mail window.

Does this mean that messages and items sent to player will disappear after a certain amount of time? It looks like 1 month there.

If this is the case will you be able to cancel messages and retrieve sent items?

I must admit that I'm struggling to see why a mail system is needed unless it's to send items to a player while they are offline so they can pick them up later while you are offline.

You guys have done a great job of making RK/SL very accessible and meeting up with someone to do a simple transaction face to face takes 5mins at max.

**Aethyrguard** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:20:17

Originally Posted by Tanana

The Parry and Riposte stuff looks very interesting.

Question about the mail system. I can see that there is a 'Expires' section in the mail window.

Does this mean that messages and items sent to player will disappear after a certain amount of time? It looks like 1 month there.

If this is the case will you be able to cancel messages and retrieve sent items?

I must admit that I'm struggling to see why a mail system is needed unless it's to send items to a player while they are offline so they can pick them up later while you are offline.

You guys have done a great job of making RK/SL very accessible and meeting up with someone to do a simple transaction face to face takes 5mins at max.

I've loaned a ton of items out over the years which one would have to wait till you saw the person online again to get them back. Offline transactions are a god send no matter which way you fillet that fish it will be a tasty treat indeed.

**Sleincour** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:26:17

Thanks for bringing back parry and riposte.

Green skills that are useless are annoying.

**Manaas** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:27:31

the expires thing stops people using the mail system as a bank. This happened to AoC and i think clogged up the servers some with all the item ids being stuck in the mail system.

**styles999** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:36:54

Originally Posted by Eseb

I hope the parry thing will only work against melee users. It would be stupid to allow people to parry bullets. And since you're making it parry specials, I hope you can see how stupid it'd be to be able to parry a whole barrage of 20+ bullets from an FA.

Yeah, i agree. depending on distance, if im all up in your face you have a weapon, its goin to be alil harder to get that fa off tho...as compared to you smashing the button when im 100+meters away. but im unsure about perks, should they be included also? ive never heard of a perk attack, so that would mean someone explaining "What" exactly perks are, and where they come from, as they technicaly arent a physical attack

**Rewo** · Oct 9th, 2009, 18:59:29

Originally Posted by Eseb

I hope the parry thing will only work against melee users. It would be stupid to allow people to parry bullets. And since you're making it parry specials, I hope you can see how stupid it'd be to be able to parry a whole barrage of 20+ bullets from an FA.

Soldiers are teh nerfest.

**Malaxia** · Oct 9th, 2009, 19:01:45

It's my birthday !

/me runs outside

EDIT: It was serious

**Prynxkjui** · Oct 9th, 2009, 19:04:54

Originally Posted by Sikkii

THREE, ranged professions already got thier love, such as new pistol perks and new fixer full auto perks...like rly what more do they need currently? They have roots and some have snares.

How does any of that help a bow user that has no roots or snares I wonder...

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