Why not give advys some love?

[______________Orchid]

Think about this and tell me if Im wrong pleasE!

Trader has divest, and some uber skills

Fixer's got evades and uber grid armor and their own fricken grid

MP's got moichies, dont know what else they got ohya pets. i suppose

Soldiers and Agents and Enforcers deal out some mighty damage

not tomention mongo, and aimedshot, etc

What the hell do Advy's got?


Lets see.. a few morphs that are more cute then practical in there application.

Some nice heals but very slow.
Lickwounds nice, but recharge is too slow to be truly helpful in a pvp situation.

We got no damage dealing to be had, our pistols max at around 3000 crit!
We got a few specials but at level 165 Im still pretty mediocre in dmg dealing.

We've got no grid armor, nullity, mongo, pets, or dimache, since we ussually weild pistols.. we also have no divest, plunder, type skills.. we basicaly are a totally mediocre profession.

HELP!!!!!

*turns into a leet* tries to forget how nerfed my profession is..

considers creating new character..creates enforecer, Kupozilla, she's level 16. considers playing enfie more often.. thinks Advys need more love, damn.....

[_____________Cloudehxx]

Mongo is love? HAHAHA Since when did we get anything attainable? you got your nice Edged buffs , multi melee and swords now, BACK IN YOUR LEET HOLE! BAD LEET! *smack*

[Peisinoe]

No one forces you to use pistols. They suck. Nuff said. In fact, don't know of any pvp advs that use pistols.

You have one hell of a damage shield. Between that and reflect, it does more damage to me then my normal hit does to you.

You don't have as slow heals as you claim.

Your morphs aren't useless.

Run Patk9 down in 25% one day and then tell me Advs suck at pvp.

[___________Hisaomaro]

WHA!!!! Not another class envy post.

First off..
Wolf auras... add evades and damage... Saber adds damage and attack rating...lick wounds has put me back in the arena again 1200 heal every 27 seconds on top of a normal heal and FA is incredible!

Second...
Good heals... *TOO* slow????? HUH??? I take 5 seconds to heal... (3rd to top heal) compare that to a MA... 8-9 seconds! we are second in-line from Docs! I dont know about you.. but you better kick some IP into nano init!

Third...
Ive never been happier with my love patch.. I have comparable attack ratings, new buffs for teams... Ive gotten back in the arena and actually stood a chance!

I can do anything Ive wanted to do again... we got our weapon buffs (which we never had before), we got team auras (which we never had before), we got a great self only cat heal (which we never had before), we also got a great new rage for cat (which... yes we didnt have before), We got multi buffs (we never had... and yes for ranged people.. that buff sucks! and I feel for ya advys out there). I think you get my point.

[Eurus]

Adventurers have just received a bunch of things, They have the most prof specific weapons, many of wich are very good. And I don't see why you should complain about a 3k crit. The insistence that everyone be measured by their crits is absurd. As stated at the character gen booth Adventurers are a balanced prof and great for soloing. Not a damage dealer or skill stealer.

If all profs were the smae there would be no point. And you should know that at high levels skills like AS, as you listed under Agent's damage potential, are nowhere near prof specific. Anybody over 160ish can get 10k AS or FA if they want to. The prof lines blur enough at the high levels, please don't ask to be more like other profs.

I'm not saying that Adventurers couldn't use a little, but the only prof to get more has been MAs, the most fixed prof. Not to mention you just got a bunch of stuff, so now you can wait while some attention is placed elsewhere. Let the others who need it get some attention.

[___________Hisaomaro]

Originally posted by Peisinoe

You have one hell of a damage shield. Between that and reflect, it does more damage to me then my normal hit does to you.

Oh yeah forgot about those... in PvP... those give you a great edge.... especially to any fast attacking proff.

[______________Orchid]

Great feedback, keep it comin

[___________Hisaomaro]

You are evil

[_____________Cloudehxx]

i love you boo boo kitty ****

[cold]

Originally posted by Peisinoe
You have one hell of a damage shield. Between that and reflect, it does more damage to me then my normal hit does to you.

Heh, too bad it's about the only use for the damage shields. I'd like a damage shield boost for PvM, but other than that we're fine.

A boost will bring us only the uber l33t adventur0r d00ds who are now playing a phixxer. No thanks.

[______________Orchid]

Originally posted by Cloudeh
i love you boo boo kitty ****

[User1337]

Read the first post on this thread, she lists +all+ the proffessions, see, traders, enfs, agents, soldiers, metas, fixers... but.. no... wait.. I think there is something wrong here.... lemme see... aahhh. got it... NO ENGINEEERS!!! Advs are some ub3r l33t d00ds compared to engies, list something usefull engies have, c'mon, heals, NONE, Dmg shields= tons of NCU and they aint that powerfull, auras, no1 want em, they break everything, Reflect shields, hhhmmmm maybe not that bad, if the ql ~100 wouldnt give the same amount as the ql 30 from soldiers!!, disruptive auras = AGGRO BABY, YEAH!, see, Advys are not that bad, you just have to see what you are not seeing, you got stuph, be happy, and FFS DO NOT use pistols, reset that, get a SOL FIre Executioner

[______________Orchid]

ok ive got 2 SOLs just waiting to reset a bunch of skills cos i need to be sure i will be able to equip those SOLS then and there.

Good point about the engie's they need more love then the advy.

Give the engie a global thermo nuclear bomb

[User1337]

Not global, maybe one or two continents, or five or six countries, but not global

[iDerrien]

Originally posted by Protektor
Read the first post on this thread, she lists +all+ the proffessions, see, traders, enfs, agents, soldiers, metas, fixers... but.. no... wait.. I think there is something wrong here.... lemme see... aahhh. got it... NO ENGINEEERS!!! Advs are some ub3r l33t d00ds compared to engies, list something usefull engies have, c'mon, heals, NONE, Dmg shields= tons of NCU and they aint that powerfull, auras, no1 want em, they break everything, Reflect shields, hhhmmmm maybe not that bad, if the ql ~100 wouldnt give the same amount as the ql 30 from soldiers!!, disruptive auras = AGGRO BABY, YEAH!, see, Advys are not that bad, you just have to see what you are not seeing, you got stuph, be happy, and FFS DO NOT use pistols, reset that, get a SOL FIre Executioner

angis could have atk of 1.3k+ (ma skill)
300 slayer + 200 implas +140 4fok + 20 expertise + 14 basic buff + some ma-adding/agi pushing items gives us aprox 700 without investing a single point in ma skill. now at lvl 200 engi could have about 600 ma skill. 700+600 = 1.3k MA skill. thats more then any martial artist could have.
btw i know engis are not the best in pvp but imho they are not supposed to. they should be a support class (traders too), engis got some nice ac buffs, some nice auras, team-beam / single beam, reflect buffs and bots.

[Hamini]

yeah, except that ma's get crit buffs, fists buffs that add to damage, dont need someone else to cast FFoK on them, and have *dramatic pause* HEALS.

[User1337]

Have you played an Engineer yet, have you ever been in a team where an engineer lvl 100+ is asked for an AC buff, maybe a reflect, and thats if no soldiers are around, play an engi to lvl 110 - 120 and see for yourself, that MA skill that you are mentioning, its not obtanaible untill lvl 150+ where you can cast Transference with a small wrnagle or mochams only, and you must have a lot of NCU is you want to have all those buffs running, besides, its more than any martial artist could have, yes I know, but MA's have heals, buffs for dmg types, green skills, better evades, and sometimes they deny to buff an engineer coz some of them are jealous of that, c'mon, MA's have a lot, they are fine, leave transference alone, its the only thing we have, and to top it all if you want to use Transference efficiently, you have to forget completely about trade skills, coz the IP is VERY tight, MA, Brawl, Dimach, Three Evades, One Init, Parry if you wnat to use BwT, ALL dark blue skills, that hurts, and all the engineers that go MA route, like me, deserv a little understanding from their MA partners, we only have that buff, and no more, read my first post on this thread if you want to see the explanation of why we need a fix Derrien, I'm not flaming or insulting, just putting the fact on the table, please dont ask for Advy love yet, I know you didn't got what you needed, but Soldiers, NT's and Engineers yet need love to be nice classes again

[______________Orchid]

Great posts, thanks for the input!

[Qwikz]

Advs already got their love with new weapons and buffs. You cannot compare them to other classes when you picked the "default" class. An ADV is like a solitus, it doesn't excell in anything. That's the point of the design, to be a rounded average character. The other professions are types of specialists. If you wanted to heal - shoulda been a doc, wanted melee fighting - MA,Enforcer. Get it?

Overview
The Adventurer is an all-rounder. He has no real weak spots, but neither does he excel in any field. Adequate healing abilities, both through nano-technology and equipment use, makes for a well rounded solo career as well as a good team player. The shape-shift programs are unique to the profession, giving the Adventurer that little extra touch. The Adventurer is the yardstick against which every other profession is judged.

- straight from Funcoms description in the manual.

[Yakuza]

I think it has more to do with the fact that Kupo is nanomage and uses pistols rather than the profession in general..