Friday with Means - May 1st, 2009

[PhoenixOfAges]

They already are.

They at one point in the past said they would rebalance/adjust AS in some way or another. Although I am not aware of them saying they would do the same for other specials. Also they have not said how or when they would specifically adjust AS or else all this griping on how to adjust AS wouldn't be going on here. Then with a new AS weapon that will be used by multiple profs to be added in 18.1 adjusting it in the same patch would seem to make sense. That or kick the AS pistol back till they do work out how the adjusted AS will work.

[Hacre]

They at one point in the past said they would rebalance/adjust AS in some way or another. Although I am not aware of them saying they would do the same for other specials. Also they have not said how or when they would specifically adjust AS or else all this griping on how to adjust AS wouldn't be going on here. Then with a new AS weapon that will be used by multiple profs to be added in 18.1 adjusting it in the same patch would seem to make sense. That or kick the AS pistol back till they do work out how the adjusted AS will work.

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I missed why it needs to be adjusted? The new AS pistol is actually quite well balanced.

[PhoenixOfAges]

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I missed why it needs to be adjusted? The new AS pistol is actually quite well balanced.

The problem is AS itself, a special that always hits, can do quite a lot of damage and many have felt has been far too over used and over powered for many years (the joke that this is Aimed shot Online is an old one). Also how when people have been griping about it, griping about how many profs are using it (even the odd enf or shade) and asking for it to be reeled in for years they just went and intentonally gave it to some more profs instead.

They said AS itself would be adjusted during this rebalance (see below) and had they adjusted it first then added a new AS weapon for many profs there likely wouldn't have been so much of a blow up as a result. Unless their idea of balance was to just hand it out to more profs which also clearly isn't sitting well with a lot of people, even some of those that are getting it. If they still intend to adjust AS itself no matter how well or poorly people think the new AS pistol is balanced now that will almost certainly change its potential. It will also make judgements of its performance and that of all other AS weapons based on how things are now possibly meaningless.

"How is the Profession Balancing Act coming along? Any eta?"

Early plans and proposals are being drawn up. But there is no immediate ETA. Any large scale changes are going to be discussed in the forums here before implementation...no "suprise! Huge changes!" Issues like Aimed Shot are going to finally be addressed.

There are a lot of issues that are being worked on that I didn't mention in the post you got so bent out of shape about Kay...the only reason I mentioned Blunt enforcer and ranged advie issues was they had already come up (as brutal non-sequitors) )in the thread. Fixers were not mentioned specifically and neither was aimed shot, player damage caps, monster damage caps, stun procs, LE missions, Fixers soloing Sector 10, Pet command issues, pet skill level issues, white damage irrelevancy or side imbalance. Just because I don't mention it every week or in every post I make does not mean it is forgotten or not being looked at.

[Aethyrguard]

The problem is AS itself, a special that always hits, can do quite a lot of damage and many have felt has been far too over used and over powered for many years (the joke that this is Aimed shot Online is an old one). Also how when people have been griping about it, griping about how many profs are using it (even the odd enf or shade) and asking for it to be reeled in for years they just went and intentonally gave it to some more profs instead.

They said AS itself would be adjusted during this rebalance (see below) and had they adjusted it first then added a new AS weapon for many profs there likely wouldn't have been so much of a blow up as a result. Unless their idea of balance was to just hand it out to more profs which also clearly isn't sitting well with a lot of people, even some of those that are getting it. If they still intend to adjust AS itself no matter how well or poorly people think the new AS pistol is balanced now that will almost certainly change its potential. It will also make judgements of its performance and that of all other AS weapons based on how things are now possibly meaningless.

Nicely put post. Have to agree with you utterly.

[Hacre]

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Did you stop to consider that the damage range on the pistol, was the aforementioned adjustment?

[PhoenixOfAges]

Did you stop to consider that the damage range on the pistol, was the aforementioned adjustment?

Before throwing out more of your traditional smart ass comments it would be nice if you read the post.

Unless their idea of balance was to just hand it out to more profs which also clearly isn't sitting well with a lot of people, even some of those that are getting it.

Means said they would provide a new craphander/onehander and that AS would be adjusted. I and I imagine many others thought that was to be two separate things. What many people using the onehander have been complaining about for ages isn't that they want a better one. Instead that they want a way to not feel they have to use it or some other AS weapon to compete.

[PhoenixOfAges]

Another thing is that adding yet another AS weapon would have no way of "balancing" the special unless at the same time every other AS weapon short of the prof locked ones were removed. If people don't like the AS damage on the new general use AS weapon then they'll just stick with the ones they're already using as some have said they will. That results in nothing changing so no balance is achieved.

The main problem with AS is the always hits aspect coupled with solid damage. Some profs may get better general damage, other specials and pistol perk attacks using the new AS pistol with another pistol. Although if they can't hit with regular attacks, other specials or their perks much of the time against evade types then all that really matters to them is their AS damage. That's why they're already thowing away weapons they have a lot of support for just to use ones they may have no support for since they have AS on them. So what needs to change is AS itself.