Personally not sure as I don't have 10 perks free to use it. The 900 taunt requires Gadgeteer 10 to use. The Level 5 Taunt is only 105, http://auno.org/ao/db.php?id=229120
Cadgeteer 10 gives you,
Trade and Repair
Mechanical engineering 55
Electrical engineering 55
Quantum physics 55
Weapon smithing 70
Nano and Aiding
Matter creation 30
Time and space 30
"Chaotic Energy" 20% chance of cast damage
"Siphon Box" 22% chance of cast DrainHit Health, recover 15% Energy -242 .. -1948 (hits for min)
"Reconstruction" Hot Hit Health 350 .. 350 60 hits, 3s delay
"Taunt Box" Taunt 900 (no way of knowing if it works or not)
"A whole new place to run around for ages in then die suddenly without warning."
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<@Kintaii> L2P
*Insert whine about engie pets costing creds to cast here*
How could you miss this? It annoys me to no end. Oh and while you're at it reducing nanoskill reqs, remove the level locks from (all) engie bots please.
I have to agree that the original argument of "Engie pets are permanent and as such should be hard to cast" is not as valid anymore, as other profs are getting a 4x upgrade in the duration (dunno about Trader pets though?). Still, I'm rather interested what's up with the other new nanos and their nanoskill requirements, as ISotOS doesn't really last forever as of now.
Eroz, finally 220/26/70 Adventurer & proud General of Regulators on ex-RK2 (outdated) equip
Rokroland, 170 Engineer No more crab for j00 Northern Front on ex-RK2
Ranged roxxorz!
Sig last updated properly when West Athens still had people sitting about the subway.
I sacrify 10 seconds in AS, and a wholelot of AAO and Add damage... And that is with 10 perks in nanoskills.
This got agro from MPs and crats because it compares to them. Just ask for it in the right forum and with the reasonable suggestions and no MP or crat will come to bother.
Last edited by viandante; Dec 2nd, 2008 at 11:51:22.
The reason why MPs got a 2 hour pet is not pvp it is pvm. Making a team wait 2-3 minutes or being out of the fight in a team mish is unreasonable in today's fast gaming.
Technically it doesnt work like that. Taunts alone dont do anything, you need damage+taunt to actually aggro stuff. Which is why mongo and other typical taunts also have some minor damage on them.
But if pets are whooping a target, i believe snare taunt does work, it just far to tiny to make any difference.
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I'm not believing you're a King, until i hear how you sing "Be bop a lula, she's my baby".
But , King or not, if you guys fix the reqs on our nanos, i bet there will be a bra or two flying at you!
Astarra "Esthaer" Hakhamaneshi, Atlantean Clan Female Pistol Nanomage Engineer 220/30/70
Maryam "Mirienne" Hakhamaneshi, Atlantean Clan Female Pistol Solitus Engineer 220/15/60
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"Nicely argumented" must mean hijacked. Or wait, maybe it means its got a bunch of MPs and Crats flaming it to death with no justification whatsoever.
/cry me a river. So engy finally gets one thing new since release of LE that's actually useful and usable by our entire class and that's your justification that MPs need more love? Try harder next time.
You must be the resident professional on complaint threads, you've only authored\posted in favor of almost every unnnerf MP thread and against every unnerf engy thread. Your opinion is probably about as unbiased as a jury of rapists on a molestation trial.
Also, for future reference permanent doesn't really mean anything when the pets never live for over 2 hours to begin with. If pets were really so permanent we wouldn't need to find an MP for mochams 5 times a day.
Too bad the only buffs we have that last over 2 hours are ACs (which are useless), composite tradeskills (which doesn't need to last 8 hours), and mechanized reflect shield (hey look, something useful, too bad the only reason its so long is because its harder to cast than even our pets).
Finally, someone that has a clue.
Seriously, the whole "i ned luv moar den u" crap is really getting old, grow the **** up already, and get used to the fact that a) you aren't the only people who play this game and b) life isn't fair.
Disgruntled "Ferg" Engy 220\30 Director of Desolation RK2
PvP Equip\PvM Equip
First person to be killed 175 times by aliens.
I don't know how many wrong statements are in this, I stopped counting.
No, we are forced to chose because, unlike just about ever other profession, we don't have a viable "one to rule them all" weapon, we have good PvM ones, we have a AI/froob old as hell PvP ones, we have carebear grenade ones. I'd much rather have a superior weapon that can take care of pvp AND pvm like just about every other prof, rather than having these oh so awesome choices. If my gun choices wasn't so reliable on AS, I could use that nano controller instead of sniper's friend (although that would put me at a whopping 3 hud/util just for nanoskills + the nanodeck, leaves me 2 spots to put in whatever I want, pretty sad).Engi's are about choice
If I was only TSing there would be no problem because I would just be wearing a set of arith, I switched to PvP without doing full IPR and found out I could have all the viable skills while still keeping most of my tradeskills. If I was in a tissy about anything it would be the sacrifices made just to be able to PvP with any kind of effectiveness.you're in a tissy because you can't be the champion tradeskiller
Then stop caring and posting in this thread, you'll never get it, and it doesn't effect you so why are you here?Really don't see why your pets should be made easier to compensate.
'fraid not Sally, just look at the dmg and HP the other pets have now... I'll let you get back to me.They're complete superior to the alternatives.
its quite simple. stop dragging MPs into non-MP complaints, and you have a 99.999% chance i wont post, or even read the thread.
whats that? you cant? then your argument is invalidated if it cant stand on its own without comparison against another profession.
hell.. i'd be more inclined to support another prof's idea/wish if they're able to articulate it enough in a way that doesnt compare their prof to other profs. and especially if its not some "they got this, so we demand X".
this isnt Notum Science here.....
"A whole new place to run around for ages in then die suddenly without warning."
"I know who coded pet pathing... and when I see him I say "/follow" and I start waling in to walls :P"
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<@Kintaii> L2P
well, if you say so. then it must be true.
cause i'm not aware of me doing such tactics in the past couple years. or are you talking about people i have no control over?
if they're talking about getting things for MPs.. then why would i care? well.. course.. i care as much as needed to consider putting the suggestion in our Wish/Bug lists.
if they complain about MPs in a way thats wrong, then i may point out their errors as well.
bai2u!
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Electronite: FFA also destroyed Clan hegemony when it comes to tower wars. Ironically the downfall was started by the most active pvpers. Another ironic thing is that the downfall happened due to pvm conflict. Silirrion: (We have pretty good anti-troll filters by now though) Means: Thong-wearing troxes will always be a part of this game and a point of AO pride. Keldros: Obviously reall trolls don't use conditioner Marlark: If this forum was Swedish in it's language .. id pawn you any day. 220 NT: tl7 is a joke most of the time. 90% of the people are double double dead. some are worth debuffing tho. Mastablasta: you guys are right and I'm wrong. Ebag: No. You alpha me'd due to the stat bug. More Ebag: I don't have any twinks currently, nor do I participate much in mass TL7 PvP (though I do go occasionally, usually just to watch). Questra: an MP in sneak eNSDed me and did about 20k damage in 10-12 seconds
This from the same class that used engineers' permanent pet duration as a large basis of their demand for longer pets... and the same profession who used such comparisons to justify flaming our requests for more manageable casting requirements (which coincidentally had nothing to do with MPs)... I don't care if you never made said comparisons yourself, it doesn't change the fact that a large number of the players you represent, and players that represent MPs in general, did. Just because you are a professional doesn't make you any less guilty of being a hypocrite.
As I said before, either realize that you aren't the only person\class that plays this game or keep your opinions to yourself.
Disgruntled "Ferg" Engy 220\30 Director of Desolation RK2
PvP Equip\PvM Equip
First person to be killed 175 times by aliens.
i like that. so you're rationalizing your continuing to make unsubstantiated complaints by putting me in the same lot of people who continue to do what you have been doing.
yes yes.. we are the borg of MPs. resistance is futile. you will be assimilated by our mochams. resistance will make you gimped.
oh.. and before i forget... i'm not allowed to keep my opinions to myself. its a requirement of being a prof.