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Thread: Friday with Means - November 28th, 2008

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Klod View Post
    Well, that "craphander" notice might turn us into pistoleros again. Who knows.
    I don't think my IP could handle a pistol setup again
    Now, why would you get that?
    Funny isn't it? After half of AO rose up in arms against Combined Combined armor waxing eloquently about choice and sacrifice and weaknesses and thinking about your setup, a couple shades missed the memo and continue to ask for this. xD

    I guess I might support combined spirits if ql300s require 1.5k AGI/SEN/PSY xD
    Last edited by Chrys; Nov 28th, 2008 at 18:11:33.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrys View Post
    I guess I might support combined spirits if ql300s require 1.5k AGI/SEN/PSY xD
    I guess you also want reqs on ql300 symbiants increased to 1.5k abilities then? Or can you actually articulate why spirits should be **** compared to symbiants?

    Especially with symbiants now being "fixed", which I assume means every single symbiant type gets Aimedshot.
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  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Fear and Knockback for all?:
    Not everyone will benefit directly from the implementation of Fear and Knockback. Not all classes will get these mechanics. Shades will not get knockback or fear...but Shades, for example, will be getting new spirits in the booster.
    You see theres a problem here. You say here that shades will be getting new spirits and that will be the thing to 'make up' for the fact that we get no form of fear or knockback however its also true that every other profession is getting improvements to symbiants (absolutely hilarious that they got even BETTER symbiants before shades spirits were fixed) thus making the improvement shades get from spirits not an improvement at all since symbs are ALSO getting improved. Its a common trend thats been happening for a long time now. Every prof gets something, whilst shade gets less/none of it. Example: DB Bracer, shade is the ONLY prof that cant keep this bracer un-OE so basically when this bracer came out, shades got 19 less AR/Def than anyone else (as well as every other stat that is effected by OE). Example 2: Shades got the least Attack Rating research line compared to ANY prof (even doc/mp/trader/crat). Shades got 115 Piercing whilst everyone else got either 150 or 160. When are shades actually going to get something that puts them in front of everyone else and not behind? (must be behind target.............?)
    Last edited by Shiekah; Nov 28th, 2008 at 18:29:15.

  4. #24
    Yeah, it sounds to me the only "fix" to shade spirits is that we will get ql300s. Which is absolutely retarded, since the main problem with them is that they are s..t. I'd rather have GOOD spirits and still ql270 max.

    The fact that symbiants are getting boosted will only make this difference even more relevant I guess.
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  5. #25
    Something for the shades?....

    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Q - Fix for Parry/Riposte soon'ish?

    Adding parry and riposte was tried 4 years ago with horrible results. It ended up making life harder for melee classes. If anything life will become easier for melee classes in the near future.
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    "Xan Artifacts" will be available to all professions in the booster...some of these will be of more benefit to some professions than others. Wait and see.
    Reading between the line to me it seems, "some professions" = melee

    It's fairly obvious Means has something up his sleeve....

    Sooo once more for luck:
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Wait and see.
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    Yet another amusing week of archaic illnesses. This time it was "Vertigo" that had me leaving the office in the back seat of a reluctant gentleman's taxi...complete with office bucket-garbage can for emergencies. "I am unable to walk." is not a problem I usually need to ask my competant and dedicated team for help with.(Thank you for the help Sjur.) Some have suggested I don't know my right from left in the past and I got to fully experience a real world implementation of this condition for almost a full 24 hours at an Oslo emergency ward.
    Oh man, I feel for you. When I had vertigo due to infection it had messed with my balance that much it took over a month until I could walk normally again, and the first week i was vomiting every few hours. Hope you're well again soon.

    Good answers. Looking forward to 18.0.

    Fear and Knockback for all?:
    Not everyone will benefit directly from the implementation of Fear and Knockback. Not all classes will get these mechanics. Shades will not get knockback or fear...but Shades, for example, will be getting new spirits in the booster. "Xan Artifacts" will be available to all professions in the booster...some of these will be of more benefit to some professions than others. Wait and see. I promise not all balance issues will be corrected in 18.0. There will never be perfect balance...but we will keep trying.
    mh, so do shades get new spirits, similiar to the new symbiants or will it be just the upgrade from ql 270 to ql 300 spirits?
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  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Anayama View Post
    The fact that symbiants are getting boosted will only make this difference even more relevant I guess.
    You mean... Replacing parry and piercing from control/support right/left arm with something else like, bow, pistol and shotgun (which actualy makes sense)?
    Last edited by Klod; Nov 28th, 2008 at 19:32:39.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by tokrika View Post
    too much gammeldansk is known to cause vertigo - being drunk is no excuse for leaving work, means. tsktsk.
    There's is no such thing as "Too much gammeldansk"

    Shame on you!!!


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  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Mekh View Post
    There's is no such thing as "Too much gammeldansk"

    Shame on you!!!


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    Sounds great... Once again
    Why do people on forums always pretend to be some kind of alcoholics, or somesuch, when it's obvious that they are not (well, except crattey ofc)?
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  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Klod View Post
    Why do people on forums always pretend to be some kind of alcoholics, or somesuch, when it's obvious that they are not (well, except crattey ofc)?
    because either:

    1) They like beer.
    2) Beer likes them.
    3) They are underage and think it's cool.
    4) It is cool. (every drank warm beer? eww)
    5) They are alcoholics.
    6) Water is more expensive.


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  12. #32
    Don't worry Means, I found the guy who is stalkering your health, booked plane tickets to his city so we can have 1 on 1 discussion about this issue.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    New Weapons, My Perks, My Weapon choice isn't as good etc:
    This booster will not fix all weapon choices for all professions. Hopefully our regular updates in the near future will be able to address some of these issues. We are willing to listen to these issues. Some of these issues will hopefully be lessened by the new improved symbiants addressing skills that were missing from the old sets. Yes...1HB will get looked into...as will "Craphander". But not before the release of the booster.
    Does this mean that you've seen my thread about crats needing a pvp pistol option and you're willing to consider working with us on one?

    It's been on our wishlist for a long time.

    (PS if you aren't feeling better yet, I know a great, great gin-tea recipe that will cure anything! or at least get you drunk whilst soothing any throat problems. LET ME KNOW, I AM HERE FOR YOU MEANS! ;D)

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  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Sterva View Post
    Does this mean that you've seen my thread about crats needing a pvp pistol option and you're willing to consider working with us on one?

    It's been on our wishlist for a long time.
    I belive it 'cos ranged advies need more love.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Klod View Post
    Well, that "craphander" notice might turn us into pistoleros again. Who knows.
    Oh well, a "Fixer" Tag would prevent you from that
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  16. #36
    Lol, everyone is wanking this evening over one sentence, you people do realise "craphander being taken care of' can just as well mean its being nerfed or removed at all, right? About damn time too i'd say.

    With maybe seperate solutions for each interested proffesion to come in the future.

  17. #37
    Noobie Island:
    All the new loot (with the exception of implants) is being restored, and should be in the next version. We are also working on the excellent suggestion of being able to enter the alien ship from the island.


  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post
    will get looked into...as will "Craphander". But not before the release of the booster.
    Would you be willing to look into the "Craphander" and remove AS from it and other one handed ranged weapons?

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  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Chrys View Post
    I guess I might support combined spirits if ql300s require 1.5k AGI/SEN
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  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Means View Post


    New Weapons, My Perks, My Weapon choice isn't as good etc:
    This booster will not fix all weapon choices for all professions. Hopefully our regular updates in the near future will be able to address some of these issues. We are willing to listen to these issues. Some of these issues will hopefully be lessened by the new improved symbiants addressing skills that were missing from the old sets. Yes...1HB will get looked into...as will "Craphander". But not before the release of the booster.


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    Bah it's good

    Later is better than never

    At least the new players and the players you didn't digust with pistols will be able to play with it, if ao is still online when those things hit live , surely in two years as i know how your word 'soon' is long from you.
    A suggestion to remove ranged advy full auto problem : http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...d.php?t=529754

    pistol are now for dot user , Ranged advy need revolver :

    http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...6&postcount=21

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