Friday with Means - November 7th, 2008

[If6was9]

Sorry for your family's loss.

Fear sounds interesting to me. My main is an MA and his fear line has never really done anything.

[Niles]

First off condolances.

And just to be clear, we are talking possibliy 8 secs Fear AND stuns? From crats? I mean, as they dont have a strong enough toolset already?

I gotta agree with Masta on this one.

[Homeostasis]

Thank you for the update and condolences to you and yours.

When feared you will flee in terror...running away from your target like a maniac.

This just cracked me up. I could see the player hit with this being forced to run away, arms flailing and screaming like a little girl. Almost fell out of my chair thinking about what would happen if it was accidently self-cast.

[kuznechik]

iirc - fears are breakable on damage, so if you got fear and then some trusty AS into your back - it'll be end of fear.

[Klodovik]

My main is an MA and his fear line has never really done anything.

It had it uses at borgs, when I was there with my froobie MA.

[Koizumi]

Typing this on an IPhone took forever...I'll try to add to this thread this week.

Haha!
Ask for a raise and get a lap with some wireless!

My main is an MA and his fear line has never really done anything.

I used the fear quite a few times f.ex:
-when hunting inf dynas when there are alot of adds around and you're either lasy or just run in on a berserk mode(like me), then fear is great to get rid of adds between dof/limber cooldowns.
-its an excellent tool for places where aggro forbids you from doing something, f.ex catacomb exits: run to the exit, wait for all adds to come, fear, zone
Think there would be some more uses to this.

[Lupusceleri]

Hey Means, I'm sad to hear about your loss...

That said, what you're saying in the rest of the post is sounding really good. You sound like you really want to make the game balanced, and like you won't stop at the usual Funcom phrase when it concerns obvious imbalances - "Working as intended (TM)". I hope you keep it that way and take a look at some of the other balance issues, and if you've been playing the game in TL7 pvp I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

[Harios]

My condolences,

So 18.0 will be the new booster... what about the new engine?
Will it be placed in another update then? Still aiming for this year?

[Sterva]

Typing this on an IPhone took forever...I'll try to add to this thread this week.

Colin "Means" Cragg

lol, true dedication. Cheers for the update Means. Condolences to your family.

[Xaun]

Sorry for your loss and condolences to your family.

Looking forward to seeing CC implemented just please be sure it is ready before you release it no matter how trigger happy anyone gets!

[Ktaul38]

iirc - fears are breakable on damage, so if you got fear and then some trusty AS into your back - it'll be end of fear.

.... *smiles* and the beginning of Reclaim.

probably a slight overstatement but ... not a very reassuring example to use

[Stillian]

From crats? I mean, as they dont have a strong enough toolset already?

I was about to quip something about lol'ing in your direction, but that doesn't cover. The Bureaucrat toolset is underpowered and crowd control overall is just broken. I think you are referring to the stuns which, I feel obliged to point out, is not a Crat's entire toolset.

[Quilluck]

My condolences to your family, Means.

As to the introduction of fear- and knockback mechanics in AO... It does look intriguing and will be quite interesting to test out on TestLive. Let's not start whining too much before it actually gets adjusted from Test and put on the servers ^^ Constructive feedback while in a testing process from the players is sure to help out in that department.

Regarding the main post. When a player fears another, does it terminate the targets attack bar? I would suggest not because if that were the case, I (for example) could fear somebody, stop my attack, and use the uber veteran heal kit. Then restart my attack before they are able to use items ect.

A good point, though perhaps being able to cancel attack yourself would be neat to prevent Backstab-heaven from all those pesky advies ( ^_^ ) and shades

We'll see what happens, it will interesting

[Quaasar]

oh great... Dark Age Of Crowd Control /boggle

hmm, that kinda majorly /failed

pvp's already a joke with evades and proc stuns, roots, snares, blinds,
triples, double, quadruples, unkillable fixers, sit down and heal while a
soldier is fa/bursting away and you are laughing waiting on ams to go
down for an easy kill blah blah blah /farts

where will it end? seriously, more crowd control is the exact opposite of what's needed /shakes head

yeap daoc all over again, when will they learn?

[gergiskoo]

Whose idea was knockback, and can we please not have it in AO?

[Villagebike]

Best wishes to your family, Means. I lost my mother a couple of years ago and its still hard to overcome. Thanks for the update, shows a lot of character on your behalf.

[Hacre]

Fear and Knockback are going to become a part of regular AO pvp. You are not going to be staring helplessly at your character for long periods of time. Crats will be a class that has a fear toolset, and as such it is likely that the stun durations will be adjusted at the same time.

Couldn't agree more..that is why 8 seconds is an absolute maximum under any and ALL circumstances. Losing control of your char for longer than that is absurd...and hopefully won't exist anymore in the near future.

Cool so GTH is being adjusted too?

There's at least 2 professions for whom GTH may as well be a 60s stun.

[Threezey]

If I wanted to play a game with AoC mechanics then I wouldn't have quit it and returned to AO. This game already has a huge amount of debuffs/stuns. Rethink plx...

I agree... fears, knockbacks, raid interface... we'll have to see how it all turns out but the sound of it is awfully hyborian.

On the other hand, AoC did NAIL some things on the head that AO has never touched.

Neat things from AoC that would be AWESOME implemented in AO:

- Nano Casting Queing [click 2 nanoskills one after the other, and the second one starts casting as soon as the first has finished it's cooldown.]
- Water you can Swim in
- Being able to cast nanos while on "vehicles" [mounts]
- Planetmap Indicator of Team Member Positions - even when they are out of range. <-- Can't stress how amazingly appreciated this would be.
- Customizable Hotkeys - Shift + F1, Shift + F2, Shift + 1, Shift+2, etc... So you aren't forced to use num's 1-0 and fumble with shift and alt when you want to swap bars.
- A way to see the zones everyone in your friends list are in - possibly optional, or only between mutal friends.

AoC did all these things, i'm sure AO could too =p

[Artona]

[QUOTE=Means;5339997]Looking at your list of 220's I imagine you really returned to us because you weren't trapped under something heavy . QUOTE]


OMG I laffed so hard I drooled a little bit

[Mekh]

Cool so GTH is being adjusted too?

There's at least 2 professions for whom GTH may as well be a 60s stun.

/bump