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First off, lub the slotted updates, also good to hear that the engine is still getting work
I may be reading too deep between the lines, but he also mentioned the high-level PF boosterpack, so here's hoping the booster has raids that need the raid interface *crosses-fingers*
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if someone thinks that FC had any hand in the bots being used...... well... the nicest i can say is.. i question their intelligence level.
you'd be quite surprised at how many people totally detest raid bots. but they're all too much of a chicken to go against the bots.
considering that looting rights will be apart of the raid system, this should help people to realize they dont need the bots for many things.
and i know the bot owners could care less. infact, they'll prolly be pleased about not having to maintain the drama-causing things anymore.
people will change when they realize how much better it will be.
The current engine in relation to dual logging is not a universal experience anyway - with a relatively crap PC (Athlon64 NewCastle ~2.4gHz, 1.5gb DDR400, nVidia 7900GS 512mb) I don't have to tone down jack to dual, triple, or quad, as much as hex log (to start the occasional vanity org). After 3 instances in a crowded area, things do start to lag, but its definitely still workable. And tbh, the improvement to the engine is in major part (we can assume) being made by updating the directx version, which will significantly unburden your CPU. Unless your graphics card is severely out of date, you should see only improvement.
Back on topic, the rest of the future stuff looks great. I think the raid interface will be quite useful, especially to newer players that are unfamiliar with the occasionaly obtuse commands for raidbots.
Bump for improving facial textures/poly counts as well
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You clearly can't read. Which is somewhat amusing. Since you read the whole post. Apparently. And then quoted the whole thing. Eesh.
My point was I don't think people are going to use the new raid system, not for the institutionalised old raids. (SIMPLE: no rad sys 4 beast k i dnt wan loose point?)
I think it would be interesting if people did. It would end the zerg. But unfortunately, the zerg are volunteer prisoners. They welcome being stuck pointfarming for eternity, under the pretence of 'earning' their equipment. The important 12 to 18 people do. Everyone else is fluff.
And before anyone tries to criticise my hardline. I am a fluff raider.
But I don't think it'll happen. Too much pathetic whining. Until we get merit based raiding, which hopefully this will encourage, I don't sit in zergbots. As mentioned by someone above, I'm one of the haters. I'd rather gouge my eyes out with red hot pokers than do even one more raid in Beastchat.
That's not to say I wont. I drop by every now and then. Its unavoidable. But whilst there I'd rather be doing the eye thing.
You're right. We can assume that. But we're not talking about intent here. We're talking about hiccups in such an enormous undertaking. My gaming rig, while I don't particuarly like the motherboard (A8N-SLI, one of the first pci express 2 SLI boards) has a 64 bit processor, 4 gigs of ram, and an SLI setup on it.Originally Posted by Above me
While this is all fine and dandy for real games, I have to have every setting on minimum to dual log in Borealis, without it being highly irritating. In fact, performance increases when you decrease thread priority on client.exe - singular and multiples.
Last edited by egadsrk2; Mar 22nd, 2008 at 04:22:15.
Sweet, raid interface sounds gewd!
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hey sil, people are sill wondering whats in the coh chest, just bringin that up, hope you keep that in mind
idea of raid interface initially sounds strange but i'm sure in the end it'll work out fine
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Regarding zergbot death because of raid-interface, then I don't think that will happen... to get rid of zergbots, pandemonium either needs to be put even further down the looting order ranklist, or redesigned to accomodate more than one raidgroup not in a clinch.
The need for the raidinterface is still very much there though. At least it would make things much easier to do as an org, but we'll see how it works out. I think that it could be used to slowly introduce content requiring more than one team, (maybe slowly increase it to 2, 3, 4) which could teach players that you can have a fun time raiding, that it doesn't have to be some grotesque lagathon for those with substandard PCs and a dull zombiegrind for those who don't. And most importantly, teach players that gathering together in an organisation as friends wanting to better the collective, rather than a group of people hoping only to further themselfes, and to hell with the others, is paramount to the game's future health and player enjoyment of the game.
How many people do you actually hear say that zergbot raiding is fun? The only fun in that is when you cause some kind of drama. Noone really likes zergbots, except those who sit at the top and go "ooh you all have to obey me!".
I have the A8N32-SLI (deluxe) and I'm not having much problem dual logging or anything. Of course, I do have an X2, so I just set afinity for the individual Client.exe to each their CPU.
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Clever trick. This must be the same board, it can take an X2. I was an early adopter at the time and thought moving to 64 bit was enough of a leap, left the X2's alone. I seem to recall the word deluxe being involved as well. Old chips are cheap these days. Might be worth grabbing one given how much dual logging I do. Anyway. My blather is derailing this thread.
Where's the 180 replies by now? Not many speakers on this letter. Odd.
Last edited by egadsrk2; Mar 22nd, 2008 at 15:56:25.
well said Masta
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Sil i have one major....well THE MOST IMPORTANT point for your list
WORK TOGETHER WITH ATI SO WE CAN PLAY
more then 2 months wihtout ao...yay.....normally i'd be flaming at you now but even if my flames are right it doesn't change anything in your opinion nor the way you work ....
So when it comes to testing the new raid interface...
Are we going to see a fix for test live transfer, or is it going to be actually tested on live, like the latest end game content has been since test live transfer was borked?
New content is fabulous don't get me wrong, but the inability to test it is kinda retarded.
There's little point flaming FC when it isn't their fault. It is due to poor backwards compatibility in the drivers. New engine should resolve this. Or using an older card.
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That is only partially true though.
The problem is that DirectX "hides" how different cards work.
By writing something for one particular version of DirectX you are attempting to ensure that it works the same on all cards and should continue to function in the same way in the future.
However, the card makers are free to implement things as they see fit.
One thing that has differed over the years is pixel depth, ATI used 24bit Nvidia 32bit, i think. But it can cause things to behave differently.
Now, lets say, for arguments sake, that there is a function "DrawCircle".
Initially, everyone draws the circle clockwise.
One decides its far more efficient to draw 2 halves, one clockwise, one counter clockwise.
This different approach causes things not to work.
Whos fault is it?
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This letter gives me some hope. I am glad to see our suggestions are taken in to account. I as always look forward to seeing what you come up with next.
And once again.. Masta QFT! Nicely put!
Last edited by Xaun; Mar 23rd, 2008 at 14:11:25.
allows player to have another, safer PVP option and one that isn’t as open to anti-social behavior like ganking and trying to trick people into PVP.
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