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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by El33tist View Post
    Name: Tacky Hack
    QL: 1
    Patch: 15.61
    Description: The effect of this special is a root resist buff. This one will provide 90% protection against most known roots.

    Check out the bold and drop the tacky hack argument, since the item doesn't say it works on ALL roots.
    Tacky Hack DOES stop root grafts landing roots though, you miss the point entirely.

    To explain again, since clearly fail to understand: If root grafts were meant to land a root 100% of time, tacky hack wouldn't stop this, so Tacky hacks defence check is working, the NR isn't, so it broken and needs fixing.
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  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanofox1 View Post
    Tacky Hack DOES stop root grafts landing roots though, you miss the point entirely.

    To explain again, since clearly fail to understand: If root grafts were meant to land a root 100% of time, tacky hack wouldn't stop this, so Tacky hacks defence check is working, the NR isn't, so it broken and needs fixing.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanofox1 View Post
    Tacky Hack DOES stop root grafts landing roots though, you miss the point entirely.

    To explain again, since clearly fail to understand: If root grafts were meant to land a root 100% of time, tacky hack wouldn't stop this, so Tacky hacks defence check is working, the NR isn't, so it broken and needs fixing.
    Root grafts land (in terms of AR vs Def check) 100%. As intended.
    Innate resistances are checked after that. So you can resist it with boon/tacky hack/etc.

    So, move along, everything is working as intended.
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  4. #44
    Bump.
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  5. #45
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  6. #46
    Adapt!
    Get more root resist! (sorry, usual "get hp, get NR" doesn't quite work here)
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by kuznechik View Post
    Adapt!
    Get more root resist! (sorry, usual "get hp, get NR" doesn't quite work here)
    QFT

    There is a new armor with root resistance mods out there.
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  8. #48
    Bump for fixed NR check and stop it interupting casts.
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  9. #49
    NR check was fixed from 60-95% to 100% land. What do you want? 200% land rate? :P
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  10. #50
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    Want triples nerfed? Here is what you can do (Don't be so retarded to apply this to todays game)

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  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by kuznechik View Post
    Root grafts land (in terms of AR vs Def check) 100%. As intended.
    What's your source, and have you tried asking the only reliable source that rule on those questions?
    Syy

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Nanofox1 View Post
    Tacky Hack DOES stop root grafts landing roots though, you miss the point entirely.

    To explain again, since clearly fail to understand: If root grafts were meant to land a root 100% of time, tacky hack wouldn't stop this, so Tacky hacks defence check is working, the NR isn't, so it broken and needs fixing.
    Or... that the grafts are meant to be treated like an item trying to force the program into your enemies NCU manually as apposed to a nano running like normal.
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  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Krause View Post
    Or... that the grafts are meant to be treated like an item trying to force the program into your enemies NCU manually as apposed to a nano running like normal.
    Sure, that's exactly what the description of those items say (emphasis added by me):
    Quote Originally Posted by Description
    The Hacked Boosted-Graft: Feet of Stone can execute the nano formula Feet of Stone. [...] It has been hacked to remove profession restrictions. This means that is it easier to use, but more unstable.
    Clearly unstable, those items...
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  14. #54
    Executing a nano and landing a nano are two completely different things...
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Syyceria View Post
    Sure, that's exactly what the description of those items say (emphasis added by me):


    Clearly unstable, those items...
    And that has....... what exactly to do with what I said? Clearly just another case of them trying to make "hacked" items seem worse even though their not, like hacked omni stuff to unlock it to clans, etc. But they had nothing to do with nano resist to begin with, they could i guess change that 100% modifier to like 90% on hacked versions, but who uses non hacked versions of their own proff nanos anyways, long duration, for 100% land chance I guess, but they would prob rather get a reflect graft then not havin to spam their root nano another time or 2.
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Krause View Post
    but who uses non hacked versions of their own proff nanos anyways,
    I see people do it all the time.

    The fact an agent uses a graft for its lowest root instead of a normal, bette rroot, tells you these are broken.
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  17. #57
    Ok...

    Grafts always ignored NR.

    The reason general debuffs which every can cast are also in grafts is... So they can be landed 100% every 15minutes+.

    See how that works, general purpose nano's everyone can use... that always land... and have long lock out timers. In other words thats the whole point of them, to LAND. If anything the fact that resistance stop them is the bugged part.

    I think if any profession was aware of how things are balanced by long lock out times it would be an NT. But evidently this one has flown way over your head, or your just taking this stance because you can't always runaway after ganking someone from sneak... well bummer for you.

    P.s. You can get more root resist, go put in IS ncu's, or an IS robe. If you really want to resist it you can already, you know how you just don't want to have to bother I'm guessing.
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  18. #58
    I have plenty of root resist, but a bug is a bug, and needs fixing.

    The interupt needs fixing also.
    Want triples nerfed? Here is what you can do (Don't be so retarded to apply this to todays game)

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  19. #59
    i see plenty you were unaffected by "insert random rootgraft here" with my 45% inate resist all the time.

    if you don't see them with your 90%, there's only 2 possibilities:

    1. it scrolled away because you have only 1 chat window or whatever
    2. you're lying, trying to achieve whatever goal it is you're trying to achieve.

    chances are no. 2 fits much better to your description than no. 1 does.
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  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yue View Post
    i see plenty you were unaffected by "insert random rootgraft here" with my 45% inate resist all the time.

    if you don't see them with your 90%, there's only 2 possibilities:

    1. it scrolled away because you have only 1 chat window or whatever
    2. you're lying, trying to achieve whatever goal it is you're trying to achieve.

    chances are no. 2 fits much better to your description than no. 1 does.
    And in the same time interrupted whatever the NT was casting.

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