Confused Pres of Total Chaos.

**______________Coc^-^** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:19:51

Originally posted by kokk

What you did was laugh at all the ppl who put some work into making the raids enjoyable for anyone.

If you don't want Ast as a raid leader, then why don't you volounteer?

Last time I saw you organizing the defence at the box room, your comment when ppl didn't listen to what you said was "FFS I'm out".

Quitting is the easy part. Staying and doing your job is the hard part. Ast chose the last part. She came to the raids. Got ppl organized. Had to deal with ppl *****ing on Tara chat, vicinity chats, guild chats, even at the Tara meetings over loot rules, her handling situations, calling her an ()*() and I know not what.

The one you should be asking to leave it be is Vikie as she is the one who's supposed to be doing some damage controll after you guys, not comming here making a post like that.

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The part about me organizing defenses has nothing to do with the fact that people blame TC for what happened do it? Stop bringing up other crap here Kokk. All we did was shoot at a Dragon. Just like everyone else. What gives the rest of u guys the right to tell people what to do and what they shouldnt do? U play it ur way and we play it our way ok.
What Vikie was asking was why TC was blamed. The reason she brought up Ast was because on Astriells webpage Astriell blamed TC for what happend (Changed after some persuading).
So stop with the crap kokk.

**baffle** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:21:27

I think Ast did a _great_ job leading the raids. Never heard of anyone saying they want to take his place. Ast got his good and bad sides like all of us, but im not going to write 3 pages about that.

The Tarasque raids in Camelot was one of the few events that gave _me_ the feeling of beeing Omni. I believe the Tara raids also caused more omnis to PvP and was maybe a milestone for some of us? who knows?

Not often so many high level players gather.

The 5 people looting Tara like that was a big mistake in my opinion. The system got closed. I believe there are other ways to protest on a system (or a person?).

Next time I suggest you discuss it instead.

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DISCLAIMER :

When you read the text above, you will see that I use the words/ phrases ; "I believe", "I think", "me", "maybe" to be sure that these are opinions from me and only me.

What I didnt say :
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- "Everyone think Ast did a good job"
- "Everyone felt like Omnis in Camelot and cried for days after the incident"
- "It is a fact that Tara raids caused more omnis to PvP"
- "Everyone think that the incident was a big mistake and want the whole TC nerfed so they cannot outdamage anymore"
- "I hearby command TC and/or the 5 members to discuss it instead of acting nose picking children"
- "I hate TC and the 5 people in that team."

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Hehe

You can disagree with me, but you cant say that I dont believe what I say.

**______________Coc^-^** · Sep 18th, 2002, 01:25:12

Originally posted by Baffle
I think Ast did a _great_ job leading the raids. Never heard of anyone saying they want to take his place. Ast got his good and bad sides like all of us, but im not going to write 3 pages about that.

The Tarasque raids in Camelot was one of the few events that gave _me_ the feeling of beeing Omni. I believe the Tara raids also caused more omnis to PvP and was maybe a milestone for some of us? who knows?

Not often so many high level players gather.

The 5 people looting Tara like that was a big mistake in my opinion. The system got closed. I believe there are other ways to protest on a system (or a person?).

Next time I suggest you discuss it instead.

---

DISCLAIMER :

When you read the text above, you will see that I use the words/ phrases ; "I believe", "I think", "me", "maybe" to be sure that these are opinions from me and only me.

What I didnt say :
---------------------

- "Everyone think Ast did a good job"
- "Everyone felt like Omnis in Camelot and cried for days after the incident"
- "It is a fact that Tara raids caused more omnis to PvP"
- "Everyone think that the incident was a big mistake and want the whole TC nerfed so they cannot outdamage anymore"
- "I hearby command TC and/or the 5 members to discuss it instead of acting nose picking children"
- "I hate TC and the 5 people in that team."

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Hehe You can disagree with me, but you cant say that I dont believe what I say.

1: We did not loot the dragon.
2: TC had nothing to do with it so why hate TC?
3: There was like 0 PvP there, now there is.
4: TC/ the 5 members are not the ones acting like nose picking children. The other people blaming TC for what happend and cant move on and keeps complaining about this event are the ones that are the "nose picking children".

**baffle** · Sep 18th, 2002, 02:48:51

Originally posted by Coc^-^

1: We did not loot the dragon.
2: TC had nothing to do with it so why hate TC?
3: There was like 0 PvP there, now there is.
4: TC/ the 5 members are not the ones acting like nose picking children. The other people blaming TC for what happend and cant move on and keeps complaining about this event are the ones that are the "nose picking children".

Christ! You commented my "WHat I didnt say" list.

ROFL

I will have to answer then :P

1. Ok, sorry. By "loot" i ment "open and look".
2. I never said that
3. I never said that
4. I never said anything about that.

Anyways, I hope you understand some people dont care what happened, and some people will never forgive.

To the topic :

I dont blame TC.

I hope the hole thing was an accident and that it will never happen again.

**SS_** · Sep 18th, 2002, 03:42:51

Seriously... LEave it ferkking be... Whats the whining all about? Yeah, we outdamaged the 'dfamage' team, big deal... If anyone would 'grow some balls' "(c) Kokk" you would all say "the hell wioth those 5 we still go with all our people and do the dmg to kill the dragon". But y ou dont, you all just sit around and whine going "boohoo no loot for me"... well ***** off then, go and kill it or dont and shut up. Its easy going 50 peeps and being cocky cause clanners dont show up then just turn around and cry... If the dragon means so much for all you that put such a biiiig effort into this, go and kill it already! sure, we wont get any loot cause we 'blacklisted' or something and we cant survive 5-6 people there, but you guys can still go and do the same thing, its not like the 5 us was the tara raid right?=

im giving out a big BLEEEEEEEEEEEEH.... im drunk, stoned and far far wahy from home and want to go home

I'll prolly edit this post later or just post a new onje ore something... now do something constructive or shut up already

**______________Coc^-^** · Sep 18th, 2002, 03:51:14

Originally posted by Baffle

Christ! You commented my "WHat I didnt say" list.

ROFL

I will have to answer then :P

1. Ok, sorry. By "loot" i ment "open and look".
2. I never said that
3. I never said that
4. I never said anything about that.

Anyways, I hope you understand some people dont care what happened, and some people will never forgive.

To the topic :

I dont blame TC.

I hope the hole thing was an accident and that it will never happen again.

The list u made fits perfect to what most people that have posted here thinks. So i made it clear. Nothing to do with u.

::Edit::
To add also. I/we did talk to Astriell about the system. This was the answer "We descided at last meeting that we wont change rules anymore".
There u guys have it. So we protested? (i.e shot a couple of rounds on the big red bad dragon).

**baffle** · Sep 18th, 2002, 04:43:54

Originally posted by Coc^-^

The list u made fits perfect to what most people that have posted here thinks. So i made it clear. Nothing to do with u.

::Edit::
To add also. I/we did talk to Astriell about the system. This was the answer "We descided at last meeting that we wont change rules anymore".
There u guys have it. So we protested? (i.e shot a couple of rounds on the big red bad dragon).

Hehe. Yep, the list was a summary, so I agree

Just wasnt expecting someone to comment it

Quote: "We descided at last meeting that we wont change rules anymore"

Outchie. Seems like Ast got the intention that he "owned" the system. It worked as long as it lasted tho. But like Wuzz said. It was doomed from the start anyway.

So, what are you guys going to do now?
Are you willing to do something similar to what wuzzup suggested earlier in this thread? Gather everyone and try again?

btw:

I can understand your point of view, just dont agree in the way it was done. Yes. It was quite efficient, but I personally would like to see less heads rolling.

I guess we could say : What did we learn? (Make your own answer)

... and move on.

**uberfixx** · Sep 18th, 2002, 04:55:38

for all ppl out there...

... omg pls stfu.

**Yakuza** · Sep 18th, 2002, 07:03:15

Originally posted by SS
im giving out a big BLEEEEEEEEEEEEH.... im drunk, stoned and far far wahy from home and want to go home

I'll prolly edit this post later or just post a new onje ore something... now do something constructive or shut up already

LoL

**gromulator** · Sep 18th, 2002, 08:07:15

Well, what i know is:
1) Before we tried to make something, Omni's where out damaged by Clanners in Tara's room.
2) TC and other orgs kept "privilege" about T loots.
3) Since Astriell and others organize, all Omni's suddenly enjoyed and fight the dragon
4)we took Clanners away from T room for 4 weeks
5)Total Chaos broke the rule, against all omni's.

What's up so???

Seems that TC wants to be another faction, like Omni's , Clanners , and now Total chaos....ok

U'll be really alone guys

**gromulator** · Sep 18th, 2002, 08:15:30

Selfishness and stupidity that's all, TC is known for.

**gromulator** · Sep 18th, 2002, 09:16:44

Clanners laughing at us again.....well done TC. (with all respect to clanners that die boring missing adversity)
lol

**_________________Miz** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:00:21

This is still going on?!

**_______________Vikie** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:05:04

Originally posted by Gromulator
Selfishness and stupidity that's all, TC is known for.

lol?

Selfishness? Explain plz.
Stupidity? Oh?
Is that all we are known for?

lol u kinda fun grom u know that ah?

**_______________Vikie** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:06:11

Originally posted by Miz
This is still going on?!

Ofcoz...
Heh ppl always gotta have some group to pick at :-)

**_______________Vikie** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:07:30

Originally posted by Gromulator
Clanners laughing at us again.....well done TC. (with all respect to clanners that die boring missing adversity)
lol

Is it really that hard? If clanners are laughing?
pls let em, its a game

And yes Well done TC at least we made some ppl Happy

Grom, its a game

**_______________Vikie** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:09:57

Originally posted by Gromulator

Seems that TC wants to be another faction, like Omni's , Clanners , and now Total chaos....ok

U'll be really alone guys

Another Faction?
Nah not really we are Omni-Tek. And will be...
We might be a diffrent Organization. Yes..
Alone? hm depends, hard to be alone in a game like this.

**Ocura** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:16:03

Selfishness and stupidity that's all, TC is known for

Im known for much more, but you need to grow up to find out :P

**_______________Vikie** · Sep 18th, 2002, 11:18:25

Shhhyy Ocu...
heheh Dont tell...

**Tza** · Sep 18th, 2002, 12:16:16

Originally posted by Vikie

pls tell us all what shall be done?
Tell me what the "Perfect" Leader is suppose to do.
Looks like you know and that its very importatnt

Answer me this, seing as your trying to get ppl to stop hating TC.

Why go on the PvP forum to get an end to the disgussion?

Why make a post with 3 questions instead of you stating your piece?

Why don't I see you ingame telling ppl that the 5 aren't part of TC with what they did?

Easy questions really if you wanted to stop all this instead of going after Ast?

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