CZ / Cosmic and others

[Nova]

I have lately playing only my main bureaucrat.

And planning how and when i get best speeches & nukes etc.

What i notest that even L200 you cant use all of your nanos with QL200 implants & generic buff & viral eggs.

So i want to know why i cant use all crat nanos at level 200?

And how about other professions? Cant them use at L200 all the nanos with self buffed?

Long time ago some say that soldiers and Martial Artials get the all the goodies at level 175?

[Czarina]

Originally posted by NOVA
I have lately playing only my main bureaucrat.

And planning how and when i get best speeches & nukes etc.

What i notest that even L200 you cant use all of your nanos with QL200 implants & generic buff & shades & viral eggs.

So i just want to know, why is this like this?

And how about other professions? Cant them use at L200 all the nanos with self buffed?

Long time ago some say that soldiers and Martial Artials get the all the goodies at level 175?

first off soldiers do not get all their goodies at level 175... Offensive Steamroller doesn't come till later, unless you use a bunch of implants, generic buffs, viral eggs and other stuff.... same with the shields requiring me to fully implant for them. In fact Soldiers CANNOT use all their buffs for much longer after that, since they won't have the the necessary skill in all their nano categories. I can't use all my shield buffs or hp buffs... Even if I maxed out every nano category I still couldn't use several buffs.

I think MA's have to go out of their way implanting and trying to get Daria's third eye to use FFoK and UVC before high levels... but I'm not an MA, so I can't say for sure



Now on to the other point... The game would be a little more interesting and provide a little more variety if every proffesion couldn't use every single buff they have... it would be further differentiation beyond the class level... It would also help make a difference among breeds... It would be kind of nice to be faced with choices and to not have perfectly cookie cut characters at high levels... at level 170+ almost every character in every proffesion is the same as any other character in that proffesion... it's a little disturbing.

[______________Krneki]

A nanomage crat can use all his nano progs by level 199 with the right equipment. Forget about atrox....solitus can do it too, tho with some uber equipment (which is usually too painful for practical uses).

[Nova]

sorry, nanomage crat can't do it. Even if he/she use 2x viral egg, shades, generall buffs, neleb.

i just feel this is so trange becouse i hear that others classes can use all nanoskill about level 175-190.

But look like this information is not correct.

[______________Krneki]

First of all, a nanomage without the vest is a gimp in my book

Then how come my solitus crat has 858 pm, 787+ mc, 787+ ts, 858 bm and 858 SI at lvl 197...and i'm not even using any sakutek or dillon armor pieces

[Obit]

I regret going solitus..
But 6000+ unbuffed hp isn't half bad either.

[Jynne]

I believe doctors need to change implants to choose between being able to self-cast their highest TS-based nanos or their highest MC-based nanos, even at level 200. And we have to rework our implants to use our highest PM-based debuffs too. Maybe a nanomage with a good vest and a Khan pistol might not have to swap implants to self-cast these, but that would by far be the exception not the rule.

[Kuro]

It's debatable whether or not a solitus Trader can use all their top nanoformulas without laddering a divest/plunder. Noer would have more info than me but I vaguely remember him saying he wasn't able to use the highest QL Divest without laddering somewhere in his 180s-190s...

But as for the topic itself, I think the point is you can't be the absolute best by yourself. Since this is a MMORPG, I don't disagree too much... I wouldn't mind if there were some extraordinary team nanos that couldn't be used without help

[DaveDread]

I'd say that there are few professions that can, no matter what equipment they are wielding, self-cast all nanos at lvl 200.

An MA for example, needs 770+ in MC, SI, BM, ST and PM and a nice 690 in MM to selfcast every nano. Wont happen since implants conflict and there isnt anough special gear in the game for even a nano MA to selfcast everything.

[____________Strycker]

... cause if they could, MPs would be slightly, slightly, slightly less superior.

MPs, of course need a lot of help from Funcom even now, with a nuke as good as any NT, plus pets, plus better evades, plus better skills in almost all other areas, plus int/psy buff, plus NP buff, plus plus plus..... Well NTs got a better pistol skill; that makes up for everything.

It's just ridiculous that a nano-specialist profession (NT or crat) which is already gimped compared to everyone else needs a MP sitting around before their highest level buffs can be cast. NTs should be able to cast all programs at level 200 without eggs, without gaily painted junk, without vests, shades, or any other damn thing that you need to sit around for days camping with a guild to have a prayer of getting. For that matter, since nanoprograms are the NT primary weapon and tool, NTs should be able to cast their nanos at level 120-150 like MPs, or like any random weapon profession wields its QL 200 weapons. What Funcom really should do is just divide all NT nano requirements in half; that way MPs can keep their cool buffs, and NTs can use halfway decent nanos at some reasonable level.

At least engies have slayerdroid transference to look forward to after 150 levels of slogging along, but NTs get Izgimmer's Last Joke, which none of us even have the skills to convert from disk to nano crystal ourselves.

Woot.

[_______________Chace]

I'm not saying that I think this is a good thing, but the designers have been saying, practically since the game came out, that they never intended for every class to be able to use all of its nanos self-buffed.

It's supposed to encourage teaming. It seems to mostly encourage frustration, though.

[Nova]

why i just feel it is so stupid, becouse when my crat is level 192 he can cast same staff what he can do it at level 200.

And its start to look that MP is the only class what can self cast all the nanos about level 130-140.

[Seraphim]

I cannot cast Gnat's Wing on my own, or Ruse 3, or our highest root or dot.

[______________Krneki]

Hmm, well my crat is lvl 199 solitus and I can cast evertythig except 2 things which are useless anyway "Contemplation" and "Demotivational Speech: Mourner's March" (which I will cast eventually as soon as I get my hands on more uber stuff). Sounds to me you just need better gear or yer an atrox?!