id like to add my 2 cents in. i dont mind the removal of ingots but i do think it will hurt the new people to sl and take some of the incentive to upgrade away ( easy money) over all i think it will be a good idea. but now FC needs to take a look at how many ai farming cities there are and disband some to allow "real" orgs to have a city of there own so they dont have to pay the inflated prices for ai loot and just get it themselves. im leader of a fair sized org and lose ppl all the time to orgs that have a city and if there nerfing the ingots to make the game more enjoyabe for all then something should be done about cities aswell