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    Council of Truth Press Release - July 30th 29479

    Council of Truth Press Release - July 30th 29479

    During the Council session this last Saturday there were more new guilds inducted. First to be admitted was the guild Divine and Divine Academy. The two affiliated guilds sharing the same representatives "Sparkle" and "Dirtyharriet", they chose to align themselves with The Pilgrims. Next to be admitted was the guild Aethyr Guard, represented to the Council by "Senggum" and "Atlanteac", and have sworn themselves to the Knights of Avalon.

    The first topic of the meeting today was the "United Clan Militia", or the "CoT Militia" as its been called by both names so far. Vixentrox spoke breifly to begin the discussion:

    Quote Originally Posted by Vixentrox
    Our first topic today is the CoT Militia. It has been a popular topic of discussion on the gridsite. There has been a lot of concern about defence of Clan cities and towns. The Sentinels keep out the Omni from Tir...Vanguards provide the some function for Old Athen. Our other smaller towns however...are seeming guarded by old has been soldiers. Not to disparage thier bravery.....but they are inadequate to todays threats. The representative from Aethyr Prime has placed a motion to establish a CoT milita, Xaun....would you please address the Council?
    Then Xaun briefly spoke on the subject:

    Quote Originally Posted by Xaun
    Fellow clanners I speak to you today not as a knight, but as a clanner who cares. I have been patrolling around many of our terriories and probing farther into Omni's. If you compare the amount of force they provide their cities. And attempt to compare it to our own its no wonder each day there are cities being invaded, clan members arrested and the deaths of those whom swear alliengance to us and hope that we can help to protect them. The Sentinels do the best they can with the resources they have available to them. As do the Vanguards in OA and the Knights in Avalon. Although I may not see 100% agreement with each of you individually we do agree on 1 thing and its what defines our common fates as clans. I can see on the horizon a great need arising which only can be prepared for by sharing our combined forces under 1 flag, the Council of Truth can we unite and defend enough to go out on offense against Omni and their sympathizers. Or at least make a safe place for our own at home.

    I leave this thought with you. Thank you.
    Commander Silverstone also interjected his oppinion into the discussion as follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander Silverstone
    As much as I'd like to agree...

    It's an idea that's good in theory. Very good. But I'm not just a man of force an action, but of strategy and tactic. This is one of those things that I don't think will be helped by just...Throwing more men at it, if you can see where I'm coming from. It's like building a wall. Would you rather have a wall made of ****ty bricks that's wider, or a wall made of good bricks that are stronger? With the former, it just delays the inevitable. But if we focus on making what we already have better and stronger before we start trying to hire more men or whatever, I think we'd be better off.

    On that note... I think we should wait to see how the re-equiping of my men effects defense hre in Tir before any major strides are taken on this front. If all goes well, we can look at Alan's involvement in the project, as well. I think he's waiting for the same thing. Once we make what we have better, I think we can start focusing on getting more of it.
    Mr. Landau also had his own questions about the feasibility of the concept of the Clan Militia:

    Quote Originally Posted by Landau
    While your speech... was certainly... inspired... I cannot help but question a.... lack of substance. Words... are simply that--A grouping... of words. While I do not.... disagree with your plan... I ask what your.... feasable notions on such an idea... might be? How... would you propose... a militia... be formed?
    The idea was also raised by Astera to re-equip the Blades and reinforce them so they could do their jobs better, since they are already in place. Many people had their own oppinions, and statements to make about the idea of the Clan Militia. The General attitude was positive toward the idea of the Clan Militia, though there were some concerns expressed as you saw in the previous quotes.

    The next topic of discussion was Omni-Tek's new CEO on Rubi-Ka, Silverstone and a couple others had some things to say on this subject:

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander Silverstone
    First of all, I don't trust the guy. Not that I trusted Ross, Or anyone else over there. But I don't trust this Zora guy in a whole different way. Ross, I could trust not to go in to some crazy, all-out, completely insane war. But this Zora guy, I don't think he'd hesitate to do something rash, stupid and frankly... powerful. He has a lot of pull with the Unicorns. I think he served with them or something. I haven't read the whole report my men have come up with... but here's what I do know. He's a military commander. He has tactical and field expertise. Well-trained, well-seasoned and able to lead men in to battle... He's too much like I am for my own comfort. If it came down to it, I know he'd be at the front of his army's charge, sabre shaking, just like I would. My advice... don't do anything con****uous. I really don't think we want to piss this guy off. As much as I'd like a final show-down, I don't want to be on this guy's ****-list. I know I'm not the most obvious supporter of subtlty, but I think we'd all be well advised to keep under this guy's radar.

    Just be careful. We want to drive Omni-Tek off of the planet... but not with someone with such tight connections to the Omni-Prime military juggernaut.

    That's all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbold
    For once, then New Dawn have been unable to learn anything about this new CEO, nor any rumours. Which is something that scares me. That is also why i went against the militia topic, but enough of that. If this new CEO is in fact like Simon, then he would not hesitate to use heavy weaponry, or caring about innocent civilians... just like Simon does not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Landau
    There are, in this life... few things that I fear. I have... lived a life devoted.... to seeing a world that... is free. I do not fear... this Zora. This warrior... they bring to my planet. The fight we carry.... on our shoulders... is not one built of cowardice...

    Red: This ain't ya planet. Noone can own Rubi-Ka

    Quiet... until you have the floor... young one. Knowing when to back away... is not cowardice.... nor a sign of fear. And as for now... I agree with Silverstone. To fear this man... is to be weak. But to choose our battle... gives us the upper hand.
    After some closing remarks the meeting was ended, some rather lengthy discussion was not included in this press release but can be found in the Public Logs on the Council of Truth gridsite at http://www.counciloftruth.org/
    Last edited by Fixerben; Aug 2nd, 2005 at 16:36:59.

    Benjamin "Fixerben" Bacarella - L212 AL10
    Haywood "Brawlking" Jablomy - L220 AL21

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    Press release corrections...

    I am posting this in attempts to properly represent the events of that day in context. I felt that the excerpts taken by Fixerben did not accurately portrait how things played out and ended.

    After recieving the question from Landau I responded with a more detailed plan which I had not presented initially until the topic was opened. The details of said plan are not released, however all but 3 of the legacy clans were overwhelmingly in support of the motion. The only 3 which resisted are the 3 pacifist clans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Landau
    Thank you.. for your response. I am satisfied.
    Quote Originally Posted by Astera
    at first, I didn't agree with Xaun, but looking past what I think I know I did see merit in the idea. So i'm for it. There will be arguments here or there but i've come up with the following statement concerning it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenape
    Elsabeth you say worthless property our towns and citys are not worthless they are our territory if omni takes them where will we go how will we live omni would hunt us down divide us it would kill us. And like Xaun, omni does not care about trees or the plant. Dont you see this is a good idea? And Mr Humbold does it matter if omni reinforce this is about reinforcing clan territory and if omni attack the clans will fight back they have numbers but we can outsmart them.
    ((note it was a misunderstanding of my words that lead to the comment I don't care about ecology.. on the contrary I am quite concerned with such matters.. but not before life, liberty and freedom for all.))

    Quote Originally Posted by Legaron
    If you do not know yet, there have been several Omni-Pol and Omni-Armed Forces missions going on in Clan cities, They have failed some times and They are very angered. They have warants out on a lot of Clanners, and if we do not guard our cities soon enough we will have Omni-Tek forces running over our cities, capturing innocent clanners and the divine knows that maybe they will even kill and torture to get answers for their questions.
    I could go on with other supporting comments but this should get the drift.. I posted this because I felt that the first note was inaccurate in the report and left it as tho this was a wasted topic no one supported.. which was just plainly not true. 6 out of 9 legacy clans is a majority. And the allied clans of those 6 also had favor of this motion. That is an overwhelming majority of all clans.
    Last edited by Xaun; Aug 6th, 2005 at 09:43:44.

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    What? no mention of our visit?

    You couldn't have forgotten us so soon?

    Perhaps we have not made ourselves heard? We will have to try harder.

    Was there no report on the projected date for planet wide NDS, and the death of all nanomage?

    It sounds to me like your little meeting skipped everything of importance, what a shame.
    As we continue to break the bonds of slavery, our numbers will continue to grow. NLF, Till All Are Free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgimpo
    What? no mention of our visit?

    You couldn't have forgotten us so soon?

    Perhaps we have not made ourselves heard? We will have to try harder.

    Was there no report on the projected date for planet wide NDS, and the death of all nanomage?

    It sounds to me like your little meeting skipped everything of importance, what a shame.
    Errr.. NDS?

    *raises a brow* wha? Explain? Please?


    Oh yeah and for those that are wondering the NLF showed up in Tir for the meeting early, since they didn't clear their visit with security they were escorted home. Sentinal style.

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    your lack of understanding the term NDS says how little the clans, or omni for that matter, have ever understood a single word we have said.


    so once again, in the hopes that someone might actually get it.
    NDS stands for Notum Depletion Syndrome, it is, for lack of a better term, a disease, though not truly a disease, since it is caused solely by the removal of notum in a given space, the result of prolonged NDS is a slow painful death, and affects only the nanomage race.

    The Nanomage Liberation Front exists to battle this situation, while clan and omni alike line their pockets with credits they are slowly causing a situation wherein all nanomages, clan, omni, or nuetral will die.

    Some argue that the notum supply is infinate, that it will never end and can never be reduced to this point on a planet wide scale, I, though not a doctor or scientist find this hard to believe, also I have not seen any scientific PROOF that this will never be the case.

    The fact that the non-nanomage races currently on Rubi-Ka will simply leave for the next money maker once the notum is reduced to a point where mining is no longer cost effective, does us very little good, as we require notum to survive, and reproduce.

    This is why we fight against mining, and the shipping of notum off planet, every time the cannons fire another load of notum into space it's like another generation of MY people who will never see life, eventually if the notum reserves get low enough, every shot will be a death sentence to living mages.

    IF only the leaders of the clans could see that our battle for our lives is not unlike your past battles for freedom, I don't see how they couldn't understand and sympathize with us.

    The problem with Omni, and the clans of today, is simple, CREDITS, everything on Rubi-Ka revolves around credits. If tomorrow some new element was found, more powerful and available then notum, Who among you would remain here?
    few if any. yet the nanomage would still be here, wether there were credits or not.

    We of the NLF refuse to mine notum, WE have the foresight to see where it will one day lead our people, someday i suppose we will be forced to mine if only to try to build a reserve large enough to sustain our people when all others are gone.

    I can only hope that you, and perhaps a few others who read this can see clearly enough to look past the profit, I know there are many nanomage members of clans and working for omni, the next time you see them, remember those nanomages you call friend will one day die too, NDS has no intrest in your affiliation, being in some clan will not save them, nor working for omni, ONLY the complete stoppage of notum removal can save them and us.
    As we continue to break the bonds of slavery, our numbers will continue to grow. NLF, Till All Are Free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgimpo
    We of the NLF refuse to mine notum, WE have the foresight to see where it will one day lead our people, someday i suppose we will be forced to mine if only to try to build a reserve large enough to sustain our people when all others are gone.
    I only wish the oxymoron of this statement could enlighten you to the mistakes you now make on a daily basis. You are a terrorist group who's aim is to get all non-nano mages to stop mining so that you can mine when we are gone? So I see Greed fuels the NLF as well. And you lack the foresight to see the error of their ways.

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    Xaun

    Please, can you not even read? we already knew you were deaf, but your attempt to twist my words is simply wrong.

    IF we were to start mining It would be to build a reserve NOT to ship it off planet to SELL. Perhaps this reserve could be used to keep us alive when your gone.

    Words such as yours Xaun are part of the problem, you are so filled with greed you cannot see how someone would choose the survival or their kind over some stupid credits.

    So please Xaun explaine to me what good would a handful of credits do a dead man?
    As we continue to break the bonds of slavery, our numbers will continue to grow. NLF, Till All Are Free.

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    Right, Sorceress explained that too me, never dropped the NDS title on it though. I can't rightly hide behind the "I'm new to the planet" excuse any more.

    In any case Coan mine notum to fund our little war. Pay our guard *almost unaudible sigh* Armor, defense systems... If you can come up with a better way of makeing money, or one to substitute mineing. Then maybe something can be done about it. Untill then, save for a few of you, yer a bunch of brainless zealots. Another word of advice, Insults will get you shot.

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    Kotts

    I understand your problem too, as much as a non clan member can anyway. Trust me if i had a way for you to get credits without mining i'd be beating your door down to tell you about it.

    We understand your need to provide for your people too, and that is why when we went to the council we were asking you to look for a way to reduce your mining, even though we would like it stopped totally we understand that this wont happen.

    As for being shot, i've been shot many times now, and i'm sure i will be again. Perhaps that too is part of the problem. In a time before insurance perhaps death had more meaning, would a simple meal at a full table be better or worse then a full meal at an empty table?
    As we continue to break the bonds of slavery, our numbers will continue to grow. NLF, Till All Are Free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elgimpo
    Kotts

    I understand your problem too, as much as a non clan member can anyway. Trust me if i had a way for you to get credits without mining i'd be beating your door down to tell you about it.

    We understand your need to provide for your people too, and that is why when we went to the council we were asking you to look for a way to reduce your mining, even though we would like it stopped totally we understand that this wont happen.

    As for being shot, i've been shot many times now, and i'm sure i will be again. Perhaps that too is part of the problem. In a time before insurance perhaps death had more meaning, would a simple meal at a full table be better or worse then a full meal at an empty table?
    I feel I have to explain to you that our Clan Assembly does not mine to get money. We offer services and trade.

    On the other hand I find it hypocritical of you to say that you have seen no scientific proof that the notum suply isn't being reduced, but you do not offer any scientific proof that it is. Next to that you are killing other people and terorising them based on something theoretical of wich you have no proof. In my eyes you are fighting a war based on a rumor.

    I used to be a neutral, but events ocured that made me realise who my enemy was, so I wage a war against my solid enemy. I'm not saying this to proove my point. I'm saying this in the hope that you might listen to my words and reconsider your own actions.

    I talked to one of your members just after the council. This person told me that he was against your actions to disturb the Council in one of its meetings.
    It's true what you say, Omni-Tek and many Clans mine for whatever reason they have.
    I myself have been in raid forces to strike down mining facilities. But you shouldn't think that everyone is after money. There are many clans that set up their own mines and strike down Omni-Teks mines so that they can deplete Omni-Teks income. This does gives us the advantage in war.
    However some are corrupted by the source. Some are corrupted by their own greed. Just not everyone...
    My title Keeper. My mind on my grind. Assembly's my heart. They shine when I shine.

    Kyarash "Legaron" Davoudi
    Keeper of Assembly

    "Seen through human experience there are as many worlds as there are humans. Understanding that the word "human" defines a point in eternity and not a seperate reality is the begining of knowing"

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    As i have said, i'm no scientist

    but one has only to look at the notum cannons firing day and night, omni and clan notum into space to see that the notum is being removed, what more proof is needed in that regard?

    I have also stated that some people believe that the notum is indeed infinate, that it is being constantly renewed by something, or someone. If i could see the proof of this as easily as i can see the cannon fire, i would gladly retire to a simple life of peace.

    though i cannot possibly know the motives of all clans, i can only ask this then, IF you do not mine for profit, whether that profit is used to purchase weapons, food, or whatever, why then would you mine at all? if indeed your perticular clan is involved in mining.

    I must admit that I am not familiar with all clans, and i do not intend to accuse you and yours of something you are not involved in, speaking in an open gridstream to any who would read it tends to cause me to speak in generalities, which always tends to include some who are innocent.
    As we continue to break the bonds of slavery, our numbers will continue to grow. NLF, Till All Are Free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaun
    You are a terrorist group who's aim is to get all non-nano mages to stop mining so that you can mine when we are gone?
    Ok... lets start with the first incorect statement in your little speech...

    Terrorists are people or groups of people who try and spread terror (Hence the name) rather than destroy things they see as evil... We dont blow up random building with 100s of people in it, that would spread terror and make us terrorists, We destroy things that are killing us, mines and mining machines, which is what we call self-defence and something you clans should know about
    (Side note: The OT calls you terrorists... but you "Clearly arent" so call us terrorists... My my... the clans grow more like the corporation everyday... First the mining, then the "I dont like you... your a terrorist" stuff)

    All non-nanomages stop mining? Everyone stop mining... as elgimpo has already mentioned, if we were to mine it would be to stockpile and stop the clans and OT's greedy little mitts getting it... not to sell it and get the extra 3.6% profit out of this planet instead of saving a whole breed...(Wow... what an omni-tek thing to do... We know that OT doesnt care about its employees... rubi-ka doesnt even matter to them... the profit does, even if it means killing a whole breed... i thought clans would be more concerned about rubi-kas people)

    Mine when you are gone? Yes a little... which we wont sell out of greed... we will do what asssembly does and offer trade and services rather than kill ourselves (Big shout out to those mages in omni-mining... Prolonged suicide? very stylish OT mages)


    Wow... i think im finished...

    (( Ledger says hi to legaron... Keep the atrox pie coming))
    No human being on the face of this glorius Rubi-ka, no goverment is going to take from me my right to speak, my right to protest against wrong, my right to everything that is for the benefit for magekind.
    I am not here to be accused!
    I am here as the accuser of omni-tek dripping with blood from head to toe!

    When Injustice Becomes The Norm, Resistance Becomes A Duty.

    Muge "Gueve" Marxosis

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    *giggles then flips the channel*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gueve
    Ok... lets start with the first incorect statement in your little speech...

    Terrorists are people or groups of people who try and spread terror (Hence the name) rather than destroy things they see as evil... We dont blow up random building with 100s of people in it, that would spread terror and make us terrorists, We destroy things that are killing us, mines and mining machines, which is what we call self-defence and something you clans should know about
    (Side note: The OT calls you terrorists... but you "Clearly arent" so call us terrorists... My my... the clans grow more like the corporation everyday... First the mining, then the "I dont like you... your a terrorist" stuff)

    All non-nanomages stop mining? Everyone stop mining... as elgimpo has already mentioned, if we were to mine it would be to stockpile and stop the clans and OT's greedy little mitts getting it... not to sell it and get the extra 3.6% profit out of this planet instead of saving a whole breed...(Wow... what an omni-tek thing to do... We know that OT doesnt care about its employees... rubi-ka doesnt even matter to them... the profit does, even if it means killing a whole breed... i thought clans would be more concerned about rubi-kas people)

    Mine when you are gone? Yes a little... which we wont sell out of greed... we will do what asssembly does and offer trade and services rather than kill ourselves (Big shout out to those mages in omni-mining... Prolonged suicide? very stylish OT mages)


    Wow... i think im finished...

    (( Ledger says hi to legaron... Keep the atrox pie coming))
    Quote Originally Posted by Elgimpo
    As i have said, i'm no scientist

    but one has only to look at the notum cannons firing day and night, omni and clan notum into space to see that the notum is being removed, what more proof is needed in that regard?

    I have also stated that some people believe that the notum is indeed infinate, that it is being constantly renewed by something, or someone. If i could see the proof of this as easily as i can see the cannon fire, i would gladly retire to a simple life of peace.

    though i cannot possibly know the motives of all clans, i can only ask this then, IF you do not mine for profit, whether that profit is used to purchase weapons, food, or whatever, why then would you mine at all? if indeed your perticular clan is involved in mining.

    I must admit that I am not familiar with all clans, and i do not intend to accuse you and yours of something you are not involved in, speaking in an open gridstream to any who would read it tends to cause me to speak in generalities, which always tends to include some who are innocent.
    Well if its that case, I think I'll just kill all the bakers in town cause they are depleting the ingrediënts needed for making pie! Or maybe I should kill all the atrox for eating the pie so that I can eat pie myself!
    Or do you think I should just smash up all the bakeries that make the pie so that I can collect all the ingredients and build my own stash of pie for the future?

    But I could also look at it from a diferent angle. Maybe the stock of pie will be available for me much much longer than I think it is. Maybe the bakeries will still be making pie long long after the death of each atrox (Rumi forbid!).
    Maybe, by some way too hard for me to understand, the dough made for the pie is cropped and milled by a grain farmer. And the other ingredients are built in some strange manner, so that I will enjoy my pie for longer times to come.
    Maybe...

    "What if" is not a good reason to break things and kill people.

    Our clan isn't very liked by Omni-Tek as it is...and I think that if I'd base my actions on "what if" I'd be Omni enemy numeroz unoz.

    [ My regards to ledger ]
    My title Keeper. My mind on my grind. Assembly's my heart. They shine when I shine.

    Kyarash "Legaron" Davoudi
    Keeper of Assembly

    "Seen through human experience there are as many worlds as there are humans. Understanding that the word "human" defines a point in eternity and not a seperate reality is the begining of knowing"

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    Pie is not needed for atroxes to survive... Notum is needed for nanomages to survive... And, should rubi-ka run out of pie, you can always get some from other planets, or Go to that planet and happily eat pie... you, unfortunately, cant do that with notum... And nanomages cant even go to another planet for pie... Damn you omni-tek! You gotta finish inventing the breed before you exploit it...








    - Liberationist Gueve
    No human being on the face of this glorius Rubi-ka, no goverment is going to take from me my right to speak, my right to protest against wrong, my right to everything that is for the benefit for magekind.
    I am not here to be accused!
    I am here as the accuser of omni-tek dripping with blood from head to toe!

    When Injustice Becomes The Norm, Resistance Becomes A Duty.

    Muge "Gueve" Marxosis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotts
    If you can come up with a better way of makeing money, or one to substitute mineing. Then maybe something can be done about it.
    To repeat the words of our beloved Aazamon (may he rest in peace):
    "Using Notum on Rubi-Ka has no permanent effect on notum levels. When used notum does not disapear, it changes form or recombines with other elements. This would allow for a greater use of Rubi-Ka than simply strip mining it until the galaxy has no more notum in enough abundance to be useful. The reason Rubi-Ka is so special is that there is enough notum here for nanobots to work outside the body for longer periods of time, almost indefinately. This being the case Omni-Tek would gain our support if they simply completed the terreforming of Rubi-Ka and brought all notum based industry here. "

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotts
    Untill then, save for a few of you, yer a bunch of brainless zealots. Another word of advice, Insults will get you shot.
    If your ears do not want to hear insultations, then your mouth should not speak them.

  17. #17
    When I mouth off I expect retaliation, and I don't whine when I get it. Neither should you.

  18. #18
    well, it was a civil conversation for awhile anyway.
    As we continue to break the bonds of slavery, our numbers will continue to grow. NLF, Till All Are Free.

  19. #19
    Oh, but your words were but a small wave upon a rock. So why decend to the level of retaliation?

    Whine? No need for me to attempt something you do with such passion.

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    Civil? Oh yes, very civil.

    Yesterday I was contacted by a person from the NLF. He forgot to encrypt his signal, and it was easy to find his comlink ID. What he had to tell me was anything but civil, and only accenturates what everyone already knows about the Nanomage Liberation Front. You're terrorists.

    Apparently, there are bombs planted in the Truth Tower in Tir. Apparently, these will be sprung unless everyone stops mining right this instant and apparently, these bombs have such a build-up that they will permanently kill everyone even remotely close to the Truth Tower. Top that with the claim that the Nanomage Liberation Front is co-operating with the Dust Brigades, using not only their dust and ashes slogans, but evidently also their perma-death technology. These are the words of the NLF member himself, not only to me, but to another member of the Council as well.

    Now...how do you not call that an terrorist act? There are several people working in and around the tower itself. Clerks, grid technicians, maintenance crews and so on. Additionally, there is of course the Council sessions, with representatives from member clans, guards, more clerks and politicians. Leaders of the legacy clans congregate along with the representatives from the smaller clans, both owners of mining operations and those who don't own mining operations and you threaten to kill everyone. How does that not make you terrorists again?

    I personally have no doubt that Jaciobi's tower security will clear out any potential dangers, from the NLF or any other fanatical group of would-be antagonists for the clans and the Council.

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