Any news for soldiers from FC??

[________Genar-Hoefen]

ethernal cracks me up

[___________Obergeist]

Damnit. Up you go.

[___________Synliquad]

Well
i read the patch notes 12.51 didnt see my mk nerf..
yeap Ethernal is a funny guy :/

[_______________Sjoko]

Originally posted by calvara


ok, i'll ruin it for you. soldiers don't suck.

we could really use some buffs and such, but we definatly do not "suck"

One cool thing about such statements is that you have the point of view and you can look upon it from several angles. I got one angle for you which states in what way we suck.

We really really really immensly suck when it comes to offence.

However when it comes to defence, we don't suck.

In pvp we suck also. Only reason why we get titles:
Mass pvp and 3 reasons:
Fling
Burst
Full auto (and the kill steal is complete = points for the soldier).

That's 2 ways we suck and 1 way we are good. So you can say we 2/3 suck.

I hope we all can agree on this. Have a nice day

[___________Obergeist]

Ninja bump. If you can't beat the phat lewters, you might as well join them.

Syn, Changes from 12.50-12.51

Soldier mirror shields have had their damage returned aspect changed.
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imho about soldiers and sucking... we're incredibely linear(too predicatable) and mediocre(not great at what we're supposed to do).

eg 200 Fixer with 200 AR implants and a Faded SMG self buffed with a CHS has a 852 Attack Rating.

200 Soldier with 200 AR implants and a Faded SMG self buffed with a CHS has a 992 Attack Rating.

A soldier has exactly 140 points more in attack rating using a AR base weapon. That may seem like alot, but in reality... it's not.
Just look at the results for the Fixer and the Soldier here.

Wow... we'll have around 200 more crit damage.

*note*I'm not looking for a nerf on Fixers, simply using them in the above example since they have the highest possible chance of getting FA that high

[______________Wuushu]

BUUUUUUUUMP!

[___________Obergeist]

When the investors threw down their cents and water'd down their assets, did you smile your work to see? Did the FC that made the Longest Journey make thee?

Bah, I couldn't think of anything, but UP TO THE TOP!

[____________Infamine]

fix us ffs !!

[___________Obergeist]

Just another bump from a spam soldier in training.

Hut hut hut hut hut hut!

[________Garzu-perman]

NTs will get boost first, then perhaps the sol, seriously, the NT first now, thats already been descided, and can be documented several places.

[_______________Sjoko]

Originally posted by Clark "Garzuperman" Kent
NTs will get boost first, then perhaps the sol, seriously, the NT first now, thats already been descided, and can be documented several places.

Where ?

I've heard rumours that evil NTs have put out, but I haven't seen any official words on the subject.

Which would mean the second love patch for NTs. Yes you have been nerfed a lot, but hey NTs is THE profession that has exploited the most (when it was possible). (deny it and explain why you're banned :P ).

I think soldiers have waited enough, really.

[____________Scarlito]

Right away bumpage.

[____________konflict]

hello i am a lvl 17 soldier who started playing with 2 friends : an adventurer and a MA
both are over damaging me and moreover they have healing capabilities!

obviously ...i have to add a bump to these posts from high lvl soldiers

a gamer angry with his character is a gamer who oftens stop playing RPG games for a while

[___________Obergeist]

A soldier is only as good as his weapon. However, when every one else can use a soldier weapon and keep their own unique talents... well...

[____________Meligant]

Originally posted by Obergeist
Ninja bump. If you can't beat the phat lewters, you might as well join them.

Syn, Changes from 12.50-12.51

Soldier mirror shields have had their damage returned aspect changed.
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imho about soldiers and sucking... we're incredibely linear(too predicatable) and mediocre(not great at what we're supposed to do).

eg 200 Fixer with 200 AR implants and a Faded SMG self buffed with a CHS has a 852 Attack Rating.

200 Soldier with 200 AR implants and a Faded SMG self buffed with a CHS has a 992 Attack Rating.

A soldier has exactly 140 points more in attack rating using a AR base weapon. That may seem like alot, but in reality... it's not.
Just look at the results for the Fixer and the Soldier here.

Wow... we'll have around 200 more crit damage.

*note*I'm not looking for a nerf on Fixers, simply using them in the above example since they have the highest possible chance of getting FA that high

Another reason why a Fixer is superior in today’s "titles only" PvP world....insta-grid escape! Someone explain to me how a fixer EVER loses in PvP? Fixers, Traders, and Docs make the perfect combatants for the crappy "dueling" PvP we have now. I signed up for WAR God D*m it! I want the “TOTAL CHAOS” of war around me. An environment where an engineer can send in his bot and hide. An agent can sneak up and try for a “good aimed shot”. Etc….etc!

As for soldiers,
1. Our "taunts" are really only "target changers" that 5% of the time cause the mob to attack me. bug? nerf?
2. Too many of our weapons are 66/33 resulting in lowered attack ratings and our "challenger" equivalent was nerf ages ago.
3. Many of our "class defining abilities" like Full Auto are 100% reqs on our weapons where the AR cluster conflicts with the FA. WTF?
4. TMS and RRF don't stack! Hey don't get me wrong. It's nice to have 75% damage reduction + bracers (if you have them) but after the 80 seconds are up guess what? I now have NO SHIELD AT ALL! Not to mention I just get rooted and left alone at 50meters during this time of the battle.

...I’d list more like Burst Nerfs and others but I just don't have the energy today to list the 100s of down sides to soldiers and how easy we can be defeated in PvP. Who would have thought that are nemesis would be fixers, docs, and traders?

As for the high level PvM game.... yep that about sums it up.

[______________Sredni]

bump

Originally posted by Clark "Garzuperman" Kent
NTs will get boost first, then perhaps the sol, seriously, the NT first now, thats already been descided, and can be documented several places.

Vile nt, go spread your propoganda elsewhere.

[Tjohei]

..so I can't follow this thread I started once. But I do would look in when I am on an Internet cafe

I am glad that so many soldiers (and also some other professions) did use this thread as a way to speak up. And tell FC about some of the soldier’s problem. The one thing I feel is sad, is the totally lack of answers from FC’s men on this message board. I do feel it is strange, and it seems to be happens systematically. Would be nice with a statistic on which boards they do be most active in. I am sure it is not the soldier’s board they spent their time.

On the Ethernal and the rest discussion. I would say that I do know that Eth can be a little hard to follow now and then. But I have a son at the same age, and I do feel I can communicate well. Therefore he newer have had been a problem for me. And I have no problem either with teaming or communicate with himJ. But I can see that some players now and then get provoked when he is at his most annoying modus. But in general he is clever on what he is doing, and he do the things on AO with a huge amount of good brainwork. But it is not so smart to go in to a thread on a profession and tell they work fine, when there is a profession discussion ongoing in that thread. But all can speak freely of course!!

I do feel the soldier is one of the best team players in this game. We can go in front when there is no major healer around and there is no enforcer to take the lead. And we can survive with heals the rest of the team support us during the fight. But if we run in to a room, and the rest of the team is not following us, we have serious trouble in a common team mission. Sometime we meet the terminals, and other times we get a last second rescuing from a teammate. I don’t feel there is a problem to get a team as a soldier. The one who devote him/here self in to a soldier, I feel is not the type that is a ninja looter. When I was in lower level, my God how often I did see the terminals, because of a looting healer!! The unexpected just did happen, and one or two additional mob did show up. And the major healer did fell a sleep with his healing job and started to ninja loot instead.

When I look in to this game I am a little confused. The soldier was as I have been told the basic profession the other profession was built out from. And as the game was progressing, the other professions were mended. So they could become more unique and patched on. As the particular profession weakness did get more and more visual during this games lifecycles. All that seems okay for me. My problem is that when patch after patch do not consider the soldier at all, and we grows less unique and weaker compared to the other. Then I get a little angry. We were not intended to be the nano-skill masters in this game. But we is the intended to be the loyal fighting-class.
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In the manual - Soldiers:
Adept fighters and loyal servants of whichever cause they believe in. Operates as guards, patrolmen and warriors.
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And deeper inside the manual:

"So you want to be a REAL fighter, huh? Good, good! Well, don't just stand there looking like a wet noodle, let me tell you all about the good life of a Soldier! First thing you will do is train. We are mean, lean fighting machines and we must always be in ready, alert and in prime condition. We are able to train in just about every weapon type we choose...well, the ones that matter anyway! Hur, hur, hur. Are you listening to me, cadet? Good, good. Ranged weapons are the way to go and we do not hesitate showing off our expertise on the battlefield. Give me a target, and I'll obliterate it! You will be trained in the art of nano technology to further boost your body to the ultimate level. You will use this technology to boost your health, increase your damage output, improve your armor, taunt enemies to attack you and even deflect damage back onto your attackers through the use of a shield. Use it all! In my book, the only good enemy is a dead enemy. Don't just stand there catching flies in your open mouth, get moving! Be useful. Be strong. Be a Soldier! Hut, hut hut."

Overview
The Soldier is the master of firearms, and the pillar of any combat squad. He has a huge potential for dealing damage at long range, and the health to withstand being on the receiving end. The Soldier is lacking in most other fields though, but with the use of the proper nano programs he is so effective at dishing out damage, that anything else becomes insignificant.

Strong fields
Health

Ranged combat

Some trade skills

Navigation

Weak fields
Close combat

Nano formula skills

Key skills
Body development

Operate Heavy Weapons

All ranged skills except bow skills

Ranged initiative

Tutoring

Vehicle Ground

Nanos
Damage deflect shield

Damage buff

Armor buff

Health buff

Healing

Ranged weapon buff

Taunt

Speed buff

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I do feel that much of the soldier’s profession idea from the start have not been followed up. And that the strength we once had has been increased compared to the other professions fixes during this games lifecycle. And when one asks for questions from FC, on how we should plan the future for our class, none of the official people on this message board is giving us feedback on such matter. If I personal did know what I know now 6 month ago, that this would be the situation for soldiers. I might have chosen another profession as my main character or I have just simply deleted my account at once.

So I have no hope on any result this time either. But I am now about to travel to Crete for 3 long weeks. I would not think on Cosmik, CZ, Gaute Godager, Funcom or Anarchy Online at all. Just spend the time with my close family. Drink some good wine and have good meals on a restaurant. Get tanned and maybe a little drunk a day or two. But NOT one thought on this matter. Why, since I do post and write that much? Because the disappointment I feel on this matter is just a little **** in the huge ocean. So I wont ruin a holiday on that J

Aimabel – Soldier RK2

[thresholdrpg]

It is really quite simple.

Numerous other classes are as good or better than us with weapons. Yet they also have many lines of unique nanos and abilities, whereas soldiers have none.

[Tjohei]

http://forums.anarchy-online.com/sho...886#post591886

[____________andertec]

1- I built my soldier almost up to 200(197) for war, not pvm, but pvp.
2- Chose soldier over a fixer and a trader because it was a combat profession and I wanted to be a combat specialist.

Bottom line, if I would of known at high levels that anyone could equip soldier guns with about the same results, I would a picked a much more interesting profession to start of with.

Started playing another profession, hope its still as interesting a profession when I get this guy passed 150!