Originally posted by Luxxan
With rules like that it's perfectly understandable how all of this happens. I honestly don't know if Crazypostman was fired upon or not, because there was relative chaos near the speech platform, but I do know that he proceeded to beat down all clan people within his immediate area soon after the initial attacks.
I'm not sure what kind of outdated NCU you people are using, but as far as I knew, standard issue NCU makes it quite obvious who the person attacking you is, so there is never any doubt who the actual aggressor was. Not to mention that obvious visual cues should tip him off. The fact that I, and most other clan delegates, were still sitting, unarmed, waiting for the violence to abate, should have been a good indication that we weren't the aggressors. Or, at the least, after he had attacked us, and we only attempted to flee, that too should have clued him in.
If you admit that you're likely to have problems with members, then why are you so adamantly refusing to admit there may have been a problem with this one? If you had handled this properly from the beginning, gotten the facts from whatever sources you trusted, and taken action on the members responsible as quickly as possible, the respect afforded to your guild would have increased as opposed to the massive decrease in respectability you are now suffering.
First off, if a clan member is attacking ANYTHING within Omni territory, that is a lease to remove ALL clan element within the area with excessive force.
We defend Mr. Ross and any threat that is immediatly present. Crazypostman was doing his patriotic duty IF he was fired upon first. OR if he witnessed ONE clan member making any offensive move.
We have targeted the rebels that would see this Amnesty fail quite some time ago.
What sort of actions would you have me take?.. Let me ask you?
What if the actual event YOU where presented with was so sorted you couldn't get the same story twice?
What then?
If I hold internal trials. If I hold internal probes, all will lead to NOTHING.
What I require is a solid account of what happened. And the public AND the press is not supplying me with this.
I might remind you that I was not present for ANY of these activities. I left the zone in disgust when the gunfire broke out. As it is our standpoint to see this Amnesty work.
I might also remind you, it will do very little for me to punish my members internally untill I have solid PROOF it was a certain person, or certain person(s)
Untill then, I must do my job as a leader, and support my guild as if everyone was completely innocent.
Innocent untill proven guilty.
I am not casting doubt on the fact First Order had members present. And I'm not casting doubt that First Order had members participating in SOME kind of gunfire. The reasoning for the gunfire is a MYSTERY to myself, and obviously you.
Please recognize that.
What you have to realize, is I will NOT run rampant through my guild and punish people haphazardly. Instead I require solid PROOF of what actually happened, as my eyes did not witness ANYTHING.
The only thing I witnessed, was Dark Carnival taking two shots at Snarf before anything had happened, at which point I instructed my members to remove me from the area should anything else erupt.
Which they did. I even announced my disgust, and the fact I was leaving.
Check your logs.
Please ALSO keep in mind, for several weeks beforehand we had a planned event to join FORCES with the clan the day after this happened.
The raid on the Cyborg Barracks took place at 19:00hrs EST. We joined forces with clan members in Tir, and took the Cyborg Barracks together.
Together... working towards defeating a common enemy.
First Order's interests are simply Mr. Ross's interests. And as such, if a member of First Order is found to be breaking said interests, that member will be punished by either Mr. Ross. Or ourselves internally.
And I assure you our punishements internally are more then adequate.
So please halt your accusations before you know the entire story.
And as well as that, please keep in mind this "conference" .. where the "crowd" was to pose the questions was a SETUP.
Check your logs.
The line of questioning from the TAG reporter was not from the crowd. As the questions came far too quickly, the answers came far too quickly, all material was unfounded... and designed to damage us.
So you might ask yourself this.
What part does TAG play in our Amnesty? .. To help us?
Or to hurt us.