Aliens Invade: Ross Speaks

[Harme]

While its true that some omni knew about these aliens, some clan and some neutral did too thats not the point...

I for one agree, And X-Com and all of our forces have been prepared for this very moment for months. Its time to set aside clan and omni and move forward, or we face total annihilation.

My forces have already proven they are capable of bringing down their ships, and we did it by using the same thing that the clans would have suggested.. guerrila warfare. Some people may not like it, but this is a dirty war, and its time to get dirty.. If the fact im working with clanners and neutral alike to fight these things bothers you then thats just too damn bad. Biquer all you want, argue about who wronged who, and talk yourselves into dust... But the time has come to fight.

[joshuacrime]

As usual, Jacob Stroud is dismissive, illogical and bent on war against Clan even though the very existence of our race is threatened with complete and utter destruction.

Oh, where do I start?

Do you actually think that an alliance between Omni-Tek and the Clans is tenable? Trying to incorporate your anti-authoritarian guerrillas into our disciplined command control structure would be a recipe for disaster. Fighting these invaders requires that our defending forces act with perfect order and unity every step of the way. There is no time to work out all the fine details of a military agreement, let alone sort out all of the "good" clans from the "bad" clans from the "OK" clans.

An alliance between enemies is always possible by those who are forward thinking enough to see it. It's happened so often throughout human history that there isn't enough space in our lovely salon here to list them all. For a nice quote, the Holy Qu'ran gives the most succinct example of what I speak of.

"I against my brother. My brother and I against my cousin. My cousin and I against the stranger"

I'm so terribly sorry that Omni is currently even more harried by the events that have transpired by the arrival of these inhuman bastards. Please throw no blame towards Clan with respect to the "readiness" levels of this planet to repel such a naked aggression. The aliens clearly have far more technological advantages than we do, but it's comforting to note that the Shadowlands have given us an edge. I wonder, though. Would we even need that edge had we not meddled in that ancient war there and climbed to the pinnacle of it's structure, defeating all that got in our way? It's a rhetorical question, but it's an interesting take.

As for you, Jacob Stroud, your pithy, miniscule, unenlightened self-interest does not surprise me in the slightest. Omni first, all others suck wind. But I knew all along that people like yourself, wanna-be demagogues and dictators, would oppose any alliances. Honestly, a topic like this is a nice subterfuge to bring those who truly desire peace between our factions out, as well as the warmongers.

To continue.

- Recall many of our special forces units from the Shadowlands and put them in areas that are in danger of an alien assault. Those forces combined with Omni-Pol should provide a solid first line of defense.

This merely shows your complete ineptitude at military strategy and sound tactical thinking. Not surprising. Most technocrats know little about what it is they send others to do for their own self-interests. You exude this characteristic. As expected. Since the aliens restrict themselves to urban areas, special forces troops are the least capable for this duty. Large, heavily equipped and heavily supplied military formations with the unique and specialized training in urban warfare are what would be required here. Special forces troops specialize in reconaissance, commando operations, sabotage and force multiplier operations (creating armies from local populations). Since the alien assaults resemble urban assault, your first suggestion is not only completely unsound tactically, but wasteful of the kinds of troops you are willing to sacrifice.

- Concentrate more OTAF forces in 2HO in order to increase our defenses against a large-scale clan invasion or threats from the territories. Withdraw all ground forces from the northlands, with the exception of Bow Point and Avalon.

- With 2HO reinforced, Omni-Tek will be in a secure yet besieged state. At this point we will have time to find a long term defensive strategy, or possibly even an offensive one. One challenge we would face would be in finding a way to incorporate Newland and Borealis into our defensive plan.

As above, your perception is so far off base, you're going to need a window in your stomach to see where you are walking. Get it? Since the aliens are not fighting in the countryside, boundary thinking is not valuable. Concentration of troops in cities WOULD be, but your forces have much to cover, do they not? There is a lot of industrial base down there that pumps out the lifeblood of this planet into the coffers of the OT capital accounts (and into the shareholders pockets by proxy). Your troops are going to be spread too thin for such a grand scale redistribution of your forces. Which leads us, finally, to:

- Leave the clan to look out for their own. I know they will immediately start screaming about how we "left them to die", but if there is one thing on Rubi-Ka we can be sure of it's that the Clans will find a way to adapt. We simply do not have the time or resources to look after the Clans now.

All of the above "strategic initiatives" require more military power than you own. And yet, you want to "leave the Clan to look out for their own". That's OK, we already are. We didn't ask for Omni-Tek help to defend our cities. Clan, when confronted with war, can organize into quite effective military formations, and as we continually uncover more of the alien technology, we will have precisely what we need to defeat them completely. No, what is needed to completely defeat the aliens, should they ever gain a foothold on this planet and change their tactics, is the complete cooperation of all armed citizens of Rubi-Ka. But, seeing as how you would rather not have any form of an alliance with Clan, you would prefer that we all die rather than push the invaders off the planet with far less casualties on both sides. But, that's OK. We know what people like you care about. Money. Power. Control. That's all you want. And you don't care about how many people will die, on your own side as well as ours, before this is accomplished. If it even ever is.

If the rest of you more reasonable, flexible Omni citizens think this is how OT should react to the current crisis facing us, all I can say to that is, see you in the afterlife. We'll all be there. And then perhaps you will want to take it over as well and suck it for all it's worth too.

[Xhairs]

Actualy Mr. Stroud, you are wrong. There is no need for an alliance, there is no need for negotiations. What is needed is for OT officers to take on an active tactical and strategical command. We will not have time for micro managment from Omni Prime or at times even our local HQ. Take command, communicate with your peers, supperiors and subordinates, and most important of all communicate with the Clans. Clans and Omni-Tek has worked together before, and both times we kicked the invaders of the plantes.

As you say Joshua, OT is static, Clan is guerilla. Let the Clans be the hammer and Omni-Tek the anvill. What ever get´s caught between them will surely regret it.

This is for humanity people, not a squabble about who is right or wrong. We are the first and best line of defence, because what will stop them from going through all of humanitys other planets when they have passed Rubi-Ka, where Nano-tech and resurrection tech is working at it´s peak? Not much says i.

[_____________Mihalix]

Your right! Stroud clan guerilla warfare have show its efectivnes time and time again! For the greenies it will be hard to addapt agiainst the variety of tactics whe can hit them whit! And than there will be omni whit its own ways! this just might work! I suport this alliance. It would be at least interesting to see the results of this alliance. It just might work! Whit our other missunderstandings whe will deal later! And about boss' Ross what he did was the logical thing to do!(Im a clanner and it hurts to say!) A leaderless corp. was the only thing that whe would need here! But about the fact that whe where only informed about the invasion when it started was a bad move! At least whe could have preperd for it! Other thing you can not blame us that omni did not gived the warning earlyer! That thing what ever was it crashed in mort! Clan teritory! You lied about it and said that it belonged to omni corp. Maybee it did but if not that was agian a bad move lieing about it!

[Jacob Stroud]

Xhairs, it seems that our disagreements are minor ones. I wasn't trying to suggest that the war be waged from Omni-Prime. In fact, I believe that the particulars of our battle plan are best left to the military commanders.

However, I stand by recommendations and apologize if they were not clear. While we need to try to disengage from the Clans, we cannot let our defenses down for them. If we were to concentrate ALL of our resources into fighting the aliens then Silversone would have a 10,000 strong army moving down the Stret by the end of the month.

Furthermore, there is a big difference between the Clans being powerful warriors and them being reliable allies. As you said, communication is absolutely key if we are to win this battle. Not only do the clans have communication and coordination problems amongst themselves, they are resolute in their desire to not even speak with Omni-Tek at all. You know better than anyone that this is the Clans' weakness. Working with the Clans to fight these aliens will prove to be more of a liability than it will be helpful.

That's not to say that the Clans won't fight the aliens on their own or that I would discourage such a thing. I'd say good luck to them and congratulations on doing something useful for once. However, the best policy is to keep tham at arms length.


((OOC to Kranden: 2HO is Omni-Tek's 2nd Headquarters Outpost. According to what info I could dig up, apparently it's "the most hectic Omni-Tek military outpost on Rubi-Ka" There is some better info out there, but the pre-release map has a lot of good background info in one place. Then again, for bonus fun read the description of Newland ))

[Naefen]

I dont understand why some of you suggests that clan warfare is so much more diverse than Omni Tek`s different strategies.
Omni Tek have specialisation troops designed for any and all threats in the universe. Do you seriously think Omni Tek dont master guerilla tactics?

It is a huge war that has fallen upon us from the skies. To defeat this new menace it is imperative that the clans and the neutrals rally to Omni Tek.
I now thinking like that will upset many but realistically it is better than Omni Tek joining 1000 clans in rallying to 1 clan.
The "oneness" of Omni Tek makes it a stronghold for the resistance.

Death to the invaders!!

[joshuacrime]

I dont understand why some of you suggests that clan warfare is so much more diverse than Omni Tek`s different strategies.
Omni Tek have specialisation troops designed for any and all threats in the universe. Do you seriously think Omni Tek dont master guerilla tactics?

It's not more diverse, it's more in what we are best at. I'm quite certain that Omni-Tek can field special operatives that are good at these types of things, but it's one thing to say you're good at it, it's quite another to say that you have to live it every day of your life and if you suck at it, the cost IS your life. Dabblers in these kinds of warfare will never be as good as those who have to live it and breathe it all of their natural lives. Please bear in mind that the type of warfare Clan has had to specialize in is not one you would choose to enter into. No, we would prefer to be on the side with the Juggernauts, the massive waves of troopers and whatever other devious little nuggets you have saved up.

It is a huge war that has fallen upon us from the skies. To defeat this new menace it is imperative that the clans and the neutrals rally to Omni Tek.
I now thinking like that will upset many but realistically it is better than Omni Tek joining 1000 clans in rallying to 1 clan.
The "oneness" of Omni Tek makes it a stronghold for the resistance.

I don't honestly see why we should rally to you. Like Clan would ever "rally" to OT. No, we will ally with OT if it is needed, but for now...we are doing fine for the moment. The Aliens currently attack valued targets first, and that is currently the city structures, especially the command and control facility. Since there are so many, the current tactics work just fine. When the Aliens actually start to build bases and perform more static land based assault tactics, some different strategy would likely need to be used to counter it. For now, it's naval commando assault from them, and until such time as that changes, there is no need to reform that which is already taking place.

Be nice to get an intel dump on what it is that they are up to and why they are here bashing us. For that, I would give much.

[Aerinyi]

People need to stop pointing the finger long enough to read between the lines here; Ross did not leave of his own free will, he was apprehended and forcibly removed by Omni Prime. I realize most Omni-Tek personell won't openly agree with me here on a public grid forum, but all indications point to it. The fact that a possible connection between the Unicorns and the Dust Brigade has been uncovered should have you people doubting them, and doubting Omni Prime. Think what you want about me, or my political allegiances, but at least take some time to consider what I'm saying before you dismiss it out of hand.

It's high time we start spending some time thinking about our planet and our race here. We can beat the hell out of each other on our own time. In the face of alien attack we should be pulling together and tolerating each other long enough to send these extraterrestrial invaders to hell where they belong. Ross realized this, and it's in all our best interests to follow suit.

[Naefen]

Possible connection between Unicorns and DB??!!?! It is simply outrageous to even think about the possibility for that to hold ANY truth whatsoever.
There were a lot of questioning why the Unicorns were seen so often before we learned the Aliens were attacking. The fact that we have learned this should have made it clear to all of us they were preparing for the Alien attack.

I also see that it is very "popular" explanation on the Mr.Ross situation that he was "taken" away. Why on earth isnt it more likely hes on a meeting or something??

But, in the end, I agree with your call for us all to fight the Aliens together.

[Marisha]

The claim that the weapons energy signatures of the Unicorn Company and Dust Brigade are similar has yet to be verified. Given that both reclaim and permadeath technology was developed by Omni-Tek for use on Rubi-Ka alone, it would be unsurprising if the signatures were similar. Ultimately, it proves nothing, as any permadeath weapon outside official Omni-Tek use is either a knockoff of an existing design or an illegally acquired model.

There’s a similarity between the energy signatures of Clan and Omni-Tek insurance terminals and Whompas, but nobody suggests a conspiracy there.

[citadel535]

The Dust Brigade is extreme clanners! No doubt the sentinels will soon stoop to their level. I spit on any mention of it being tied to Omni-Tek.

We must never forget what our main objective is and to secure the Source. We can not afford to leave it open to this new threat. I myself am concerned as Rubi-Ka is the only planet upon which I can live my life as a nano breed.

We have little information on these aliens at the moment except that they are strategically attacking our homes.

[Keldros]

The Dust Brigade is extreme clanners! No doubt the sentinels will soon stoop to their level. I spit on any mention of it being tied to Omni-Tek.

Meldaeyn, you of all people should know better than that! Think back eight months, when the ICC had warning of an impending Dust Brigade attack on Borealis and set up fortifications. You were there, I remember seeing you in the crowd.

When the ICC and citizens of Borealis braced themselves for a Dust Brigade attack, who started killing the ICC soldiers? Who started attacking neutral defenders? Who killed noncombatants simply trying to leave the area? Omni-tek employees in every case.

Now, would you care to explain why 94% of the Omni-tek employees I met that day were assisting the Dust Brigade if the two organizations share no ties?

[joshuacrime]

Perhaps not structured ties, Keldros, but a short marriage of convenience. If you let actions speak louder than words, then OT's actions during this attack are quite telling. But then again, we aren't quite certain who bankrolls the Dust Brigade. Or why OT would send their hounds into Borealis and kill the ICC troopers. That's quite interesting. Wouldn't mind hearing the OT evangelists explain that one. I'm waiting...

But as for the Aliens, hmmmmmmmmm. Reports from the crash sites of the newcomers is quite telling, also. It's clear that the Unicorns want no competition in the game of "getting all the Alien goodies", as the Clan surgeon healing the ICC troopers defending wave after wave of alien attacks mentions that the Unicorns only stay long enough to get something they want, killing anyone that gets in their way, including other humans. And then they bugger off. Perhaps Omntron will come out with a new item in the "Daily Bull****" column that says there are no Aliens and these attacks are merely Clan or Dust Brigade terrorism. That would be a hoot!

[joshuacrime]

The Dust Brigade is extreme clanners! No doubt the sentinels will soon stoop to their level. I spit on any mention of it being tied to Omni-Tek.

Horsefeathers. Prove it. Show me unequivocal proof that this is true. On the contrary, I think Keldros makes a very interesting case against your claim. I'm still waiting...

We must never forget what our main objective is and to secure the Source. We can not afford to leave it open to this new threat. I myself am concerned as Rubi-Ka is the only planet upon which I can live my life as a nano breed.

Now, before I get ahead of myself, some clarification is needed here. Securing the Source was something that was already done, and done by the Beast. Not a perfect system, and it would have worked too if it hadn't been for us meddling kids. (I love Scooby Do, don't you). Now that we have broken the cycle, surely the Source (whatever the hell THAT is) needs to be protected again. And by whom? Omni-Tek and the Unredeemed? I'm going to stand back in awe of that statement for a brief moment. There. All better now. I can find nothing more horrifying in my imagination than that thought right there.

No, I'm hoping like Hell that the Aliens put something back there to guard it from US. We (and by we I mean humans, and not you and me) are mere children in the universe, and we have broken something that was beyond us and our ability to understand it's implications.

[Keldros]

Perhaps not structured ties, Keldros, but a short marriage of convenience. If you let actions speak louder than words, then OT's actions during this attack are quite telling.

Perhaps not structured ties, but the ties are still there. A few well-known Omni employees were working with the Dust Brigade to kill neutrals. We're not talking about small, unknown organizations either: Adrastus II, HUGE Inc., Peace$Love Inc., Russian Alliance, and Knights of Old are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head. Disciples of Omni-tek seemed to be split, with recruits supporting the Dust Brigade while Xhairs was fighting against them.

One who is an executive in HUGE, Inc. openly announced that she wanted to work with the Dust Brigade if it meant she could kill more clanners. Seeing how she's still an executive eight months later, I would assume that is official company policy. (Adrastus may or may not still have ties to the Dust Brigade, but at least they've kicked the only member who admitted he was working with them.)

I'm still curious why Omni-tek hasn't labelled these people as traitors, and even more curious why ICC hasn't investigated the incident.

[joshuacrime]

Well, this news does not surprise me in the slightest. People like Seventshadow are zealots. Trajal ranks right up there with them. Most of them do, in fact. I find little redeemable (pardon the pun) about any of them. Their actions merely show that they are simple ruthless automatons that kow-tow to the corporation and it's leaders goals. In my area of the planet, we call that "ass kissing" or "boot licking" or "apple polishing". Lacking the basics of humanity, they blaze a path of destruction, mayhem, lies, murder and thievery everywhere they go. All on company time.

I'm not so certain why you are so surprised, though, Keldros. You've been around the block. You know how they do, playa. The more you read their intentions, the more it's plausible to assume that they are in fact funding the Dust Brigade and directing their activities to scare up more reasons to go after Clan holdings. And it further goes to show that once they get something to sinke their teeth into, they go at it full hog until nothing is left but a smoking carcass. I'm sure that most of them would read this and say to themselves "Damn right, we do!" and that would be the most telling of all.

But it certainly isn't a surprise to me.

[subnaut]

Pardon my late entrance. I also dream of a day of unity on Rubi-Ka where all citizens, omni, clan, and unalligned alike can coexist peacefully. However, I find it particularly telling of the omni perspective here that after monitoring this nefarious alien force for years,

Omni-Tek has been aware of this pending invasion for some time

they wait only until it is "too late" -- until they can no longer handle it on their own --

and we have been taking steps to prepare for the defense of the planet.

to even alert the other coinhabitants of the planet.

((They haven't been taking steps to prepare the planet, they've been hopelessly over-expending their resources to try and counter this force on their own because their too proud to recognize the fact that they can't handle it without the support of those they've -- in their avarice -- long since cast aside))

And sure, we probably wouldn't have believed that lying sack of filth (for indeed have we not heard enough lies form him already), but I am troubled for what this means for the unalligned, who so often support the omni cause tacitly. Would Ross really be so stupid as to alienate (pardon my pun) their allegiance as well.

And then, the turn from bad to worse:

Philip Ross: This message was triggered to auto run if any of these enemy ships breach our outer planetary security defenses, as I could not keep the population ignorant of this danger.

Ahahahah, so my best personal assurance of you "preparing for the defense of the planet" is a pre-recorded, automatic, message? After all the doubts as to you even existing any more, the greatest time of need is met by a stale, triggered announcement?

Philip Ross: It is with a sad heart that I find myself off planet speaking to the Board of Directors on Omni Prime about the continuing defense of this planet we all call home.

Um, save your excuses, buster. You are obviously far too busy looking out for our safety to concern yourself with alerting us to earth-shattering space invaders. Your hubris might have just lost a war before it even began.

Heh, lucky for Rubi-Ka, we Clan are pretty used to rallying against all odds on little or no notice. Alright guys, Ross blew it again, guess we're going to have to go save the planet

[Daimoness]

Should I even be surprised that Omni-Tek first tries to "handle" it themselves, and only when it blew in their face they had no other choice but to make it public.

If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style.