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  2. #222
    You can get a second account. You can fill your bank with junk bags, then get a guildie to help move it and sell it.

    That's a real advantage, right there. Those Specialist Commerce terms are about 50% better than the Omni advantage, and they're a Trader advantage.

  3. #223

    hm

    I personally would also like to see some distinct differences between Omni and the Clans. Though they don't neccessarily have to be huge differences, or even affect gameplay so much.

    For example, the dresscode idea. That's really cool, and can be made into a mainly RP thing. Suits could be created for each profession and maybe even for certain ranges of levels. The suit would be a back item, and wouldn't provide any benifits or protection whatsoever. Anytime that Omni's were inside a major Omni controlled city, they would be required to wear their suits. This wouldn't disrupt any gameplay aspects...only a back item, if one was worn, would have to be removed to put on the suit, and the suits would only have to be worn in cities, so omni's could take them off to go hunting or do missions or whatever.

    Also, making the clans more reliant on tradeskills to acquire items is a great idea. I think the stock of clan stores should be reduced a little, make the ql of the items much more erratic and the selection of items smaller, but on the flipside make it possible for clanners to construct any weapons or armour they need. This would help make tradeskills make sense, since the higher cost and time involved in manufacturing an item would be balanced by the fact that you might not be able to get the ql and type of armour/weapon/item you need otherwise.

    Just some thoughts. Though I don't envy Funcom having to deal with this issue. In the end, a lot of people will ***** and moan if the changes FC makes reduces their power or access to needed items at all, whether its a balanced change or not.

  4. #224
    Or let Omnis wear whatever the hell they want, but they always look like they're wearing an OT jumpsuit? Or they get an Omni-Tek Coat, which provides ACs only a little lower than a Decus coat but looks really cool?

  5. #225
    well im clan and have been clan for a long time and the selection of good is tne shops suck ass and its all expensive and if u want to sell something u get ****in pocket change back...i agree that armor for both sides is even but omni has way better advantages also they have the best spawning places so **** all omni cuz they are all stuck up *****es that r too stupid to realize they have better advantages and there is a reason for that they are a big ****in corp of course they are better if u want to have it easier be a ****in omni character jesus ****in christ if ones better dont complain be that side if u r still mad at least make a good argument.......****in idiots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    and what is even funnier is that u have made near to 2000 stupid ass posts jesus stupid ppl......u see there r normal ppl like the ppl u r arguing with and then there r semi intelligent ppl like me and then there r those stupid ass flamin faggets like u ba bye
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  7. #227
    Originally posted by Garzu
    Omnis got the UBER KICK ASS advantages. You all know what I talk aobut.

    So, give clanners some UBER KICK ASS advantages too.
    just out of interest garzu, what ARE you talking about? for those of us who are obviously too stupid to know

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  8. #228

    What Omni Advantage?

    My first 2 chars were Neuts, I asked people what was so great about Omni and they tell me that stuff is cheaper to buy when your Omni.

    So I made an Omni.............and noticed no difference whatsoever. So what Advantages do Omni have, or should I be shopping somewhere other than Omni Ent?

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  9. #229
    I believe the Clan advantage should be:
    a) a XP bonus (as was originally intended) - or
    b) a type of Armour that is Clan only.

    B) would have a added bonus - Omni will learn how annoying it is to do a Clan mission, and finish with loads of Omni-pol/Omni-desert armour, that you can't wear!
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  10. #230
    Originally posted by Xed LRK
    I believe the Clan advantage should be:
    a) a XP bonus (as was originally intended) - or
    b) a type of Armour that is Clan only.

    B) would have a added bonus - Omni will learn how annoying it is to do a Clan mission, and finish with loads of Omni-pol/Omni-desert armour, that you can't wear!
    Clan armor maybe, but I absolutly don't think we should get a xp or ip bonus, not many people would stay omni if it's easier to get xp as clan or you get more ip.
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  11. #231

    Red face

    You have to try it like I did, get your high dollar item, like a battesuit. Now go to Fair Trade, drop it in the terminal and see how much they offer you, then decline and leave the shop. Go to Newland grid terminal. Have someone help you transfer the suit to your Omni character. Now go to Omni trade and see how much they will offer you for it. Blammo - you will get 45-50% more cash.

    Oh yeah, this adds up!! All you trolls say big hairy deal, but when i am tryuing to save up for a Yalmaha and have 4 mill as Clan, I know if I was Omni that I would have about six million credits. This matters folks, for implants Yalms, and those 400 ql125 nano rechargers and treatment kits. I can live with a 10 or 15% difference, but 50% is too unbalanced, to coin the phrase funcom likes to use to nerf a profession.

    So once again, what would you say if ONLY pet classes got 50% more cash selling items then any other class??????????? Do you think Funcom would jump in and fix that?

  12. #232

    Post

    Originally posted by Whaddevah
    Defildae, have you ever tried hunting out on Longest Road? A little near the end is Dead Forest. The shades there are lvl 70-85 easy. And if that's not enough, there are the Bileswarm Drones, Workers and Defenders that are a deep, ugly red to my lvl 85 character. That should keep people happy!
    Yes i have. And closet place to save near there is the Omni mine. Plus this area is a long, long, long way to run to.

    Go Omni, and hunt, you have at most a 2 min jog, then join one of the 4 or 5 groups out there and have some great xp.

    You do not play an Omni character, or you would laugh at this comparrison of yours. No Omni even bother going to VW to hunt, much less run through 3 zones to get to Longest road, even if there is a save term near by.

  13. #233
    seems the clan advantage is that we are 'the good guys'.

  14. #234
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    Really, the reason why Clan advantages are mostly guild only makes PERFECT sense. What the hell is one damn person going to do? Solo Omni-Tek RK by itself? Clans are heavily encouraged to group, however Omni-Tek, you're simply an employee and go where you are needed.
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  15. #235

    Question Clan skills

    R people's main complaint about what is supposed to be the Clan advantage (it is what was originally advertised, so it SHOULD be put in) that it would give an unfair advantage in PvP?

    How about at least just starting with implementing the Clan advantage for Trade Skills? Omni being the large corporation has a big advantage in economy and manufacturing. The clans being a collection of smaller communities should have an advantage in cottage industries via trade skills.

    Then you can have more high level objects for Omni in stores and a larger diversity of things for Clans to manufacture. This would also lend itself to a corporate vs rebel look for each group since there would be a lot more diversity among clan tailor made objects.

    So how about implementing trade skill advantages for organizations?

    P.S. - I've never tried them, but do the org advantage and disadvantage for sale in Athen work like they're supposed to?

  16. #236
    Nope, they were part of the old org system, which has since been replaced.

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  18. #238

    Took a look...

    ...and it looks pretty decent, but perhaps this is a style thing; It doesn't seem very sci-fi to me. Perhaps a little more techologically oriented and it would sail, as well as some stats on it for different levels, technical info, things like that. And maybe a bit more bulk to it. We all know we like our armor to make us look bigger, right?
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  19. #239

    oki

    yea its not sci fi at all but this is going to be a game that is a blend of sci fi and fantasy mind you.
    also i was thinkng that clans are ment to be chivalrous and knightlike thus i made knight armor.
    still making it bulky is ok with me just as long as there is a version that benifits casters Like me
    i was thinking how about puting the alreadly existing yalmaha environmental shaders on the armor that would look soo cool

  20. #240

    Exclamation

    Frankly I dont see why clan should have any specific bonuses over omni. Currently omnis has some lower level omni-only armor that is semi good (omnipol and elite & tank/battlesuits which no one really uses even after 14.2 upgrade - with elite being dangerously flawed due to extremely low chem AC). At higher levels almost no one uses those types of armor and thus OT is left with an useless "advantage". As is we should look at the ballance of omni/clan...currently there are more clan players and much more high level clanners around. Giving Clan an added bonus would serve to unballance the sides even further, unless omni got implemented real usable equipment advantage. Just my two cents on the subject.

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