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  1. #21
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  2. #22
    I have recently reviewed the decoded contents of one of the three intact Slayer Droid memory crystals recovered before the Omni-Tek recovery force was neutralized. It shows a series of very disturbing images. As the recon team prepares to enter the wreck, the private on point is torn asunder by an unknown attacker. Another, the rear guard, is nearly decapitated, his blood smearing on one of the bulkheads. The survivors began to open fire blindly into the wreck in hopes of scoring a hit on their unseen adversary, but have no luck. They begin to fall like wheat before a harvester. The second before the video blacks out and turns to static, only one trooper remains, and is then impaled by what appears to be nothing but thin air.

    After losing contact with the recon team, a search team was immediately dispatched. When their Prowler flew above the crash site, there was no sign of life, only a large contingent of clan members who appeared to be dropping left and right, horribly mutilated with no obvious attacker. Seeing the severity of the situation, the Prowler team requested backup from the 354th Guards Division based outside of Omni-1. A company of soldiers as well as a Juggernaut platoon was dispatched to search for and evacuate any survivors. They were also to contain any threat and, if necessary, destroy it, as the clan forces in the area were not capable of doing so.

    When the soldier approached the crash site, they were engaged by clan forces, whom they promptly dispatched with little difficulty. They began to search the wreckage, and found the aforementioned memory crystals before being ordered to pull back by their commanding officer to combat the next wave of clan forces. By that time, many of the unseen assailants are believed to have escaped. At that point, the rescue team was forced to flee the area after a long fight. In the rush to evacuate, a small number of Omni-Tek personnell were accidently left behind, and were massacred by clan terrorists.
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  3. #23

    Maybe that is how it went down on RK1...

    ...but on RK2, it certainly did not. It would be interesting as a study to see exactly waht happened in each of the realms.

    As far as I can see, gathering more intel about what occured, it would appear that there may have been an Omni force dispatched before the Clan force got there, but we were not told by the Clan Borg Hunter squad that this was so, only that there was a crash.

    We can forget that there was any kind of Omni prototype ship here, that's just sheer nonsense and making excuses for what the Omni Pol troops did. This is a CLAN zone, not an Omni zone. I would expect that during the cease-fire we have going on, we don't go invading each other's territory with military force. Raids are to be expected, but this...this was out of bounds.

    And if the Omni troopers would have just calmly approached instead of doing what they did, I think you will find that the Clanners would have been more than happy to assist in the recovery/assault/protection of the ship and the area around it. Hell, we KNOW Omni has better labs than Clan does, we would not have even minded that Omni took the technology recovered back to Omni-HQ for study, provided that Clan was present and was able to see all relevant data. After all, salvage rights pertain here.

    In addition, I keep hearing about how this was a Black Reet Down situation, which on RK2 is sheer horsefeathers. The recon force I was a part of was 90% clan. Omni fighters showed up to join us on the march to the site, and no fighting occured between us. We were on the ground at the crash site for a full 15 minutes before the drop ships showed up. Those drop ships could have scanned the area and saw that there were no survivors from the original crew and just sent a small force to recover their bodies. But no...Gunga Din, here we come! Bah, more lame excuses.

    And...if this WAS an Omni prototype ship/weapon system that was being tested here...if you all have something that powerful, expect all out war with Clan AND Neutral any time soon. No one should have the capabilities I witnessed during this attack by the unknown forces. It's like being able to launch nuclear weapons completely undetected and destroying everything before the enemy can even react. Once the enemy knows you can do this, the enemy will go at you full bore and try to remove that piece from your arsenal, or you may as well pack it in and give up. Clan would never do that, so I don't think the ship was Omni at all.

    We'd all love to know who it was or where it came from or why it was there...so many questions unanswered.
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  4. #24
    I see Sentinels has taken complete control of the area.. wonder what they will find out.
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  5. #25
    Expect a response from my office about this incident soon.
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  6. #26
    The Omni call the Clans terrorists.....
    What are people who slaughter scientists trying desperately to discover what made all the Omni and clan members die suddenly, and mysteriously.

    At 200 hours, a mob of Omni miscreants attacked and killed the Clan affiliated researchers at the crash site. Instead of trying to cooperate and find out exactly what was on that ship that caused this...virus or plague....they were silenced.

    If they are only interested in killing people trying to find out the truth...what is Omni-Tek hiding from the rest of us?
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  7. #27
    The other half of the story I'm sure of is that Clanners killed Omni personel arriving to investigate the crash site as well. Telling a half-truth to mislead is worse than lying. Complaints of 'well the other guys started it first!' don't hold much weight here as there have been too much mis-reporting by both sides.
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  8. #28
    I was present at the crash site gathering data to take back to my lab. When I detected 3 Omni employees approaching, 2 in green cloaks, one in full OmniPol armor, I attempted to open up a dialogue, but before i could speak I was insulted, taunted, and told to leave....when all I was doing was gathering data.

    I returned to the ship then to see the other omni employees standing over the mangled corpses of the sentinel guards and the Scientists they were charged to protect....only after I saw the last of the clan scientists being attacked did I attempt to engage one of the Omni. Not before.

    I felt dizzy, and weak after I cast my first offensive program....when I regained conciousness, I was in Tir, at the reclaim terminal.

    Omni seems very keen on preventing any information on this crash to be let out. Almost as if they were cleaning up a mess they caused...

    Reguardless....its still unknown exacly what was on the ship, and what made those people die. If Omni and clan are going to fight and squabble over this site, then it should be turned over to the ICC's jurisdiction, and left to them to bring to light the truth of what really happened.
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  9. #29
    Its funny for a rescue mission talking about saveing injured crew why is there no mention from omni or clanners of seeing omni medical staff on scene I'm sure if a buncha medics showed up on scene with a light escort of say a squad of guards the clan forces there would have allowed them to pass. Also seeing it was a space ship and reclaim terminals only work on rubika then there would be bodies. But I doubt if there were bodies they were human. I personally think that this was a unknown attacker who was at first reconing the atmosphere when omni probably shot them down.

    (ooc HELLO SLITHERING NOISE ONE OF THE AI GUYS LOOKS LIKE A SNAKE/WORM THING DUH AND THOSE BIG SPIKES ON ITS HEAD ARE PROBABLY SOUND GENRATORS USEING ULTRA SONIC NOISE FOCASED INTO A POINT TO BECOME LIKE A BULLET THE SIZE OF A FRISSBEE!)
    Also 8 juggernaughts isn't a recon team its a assult force I bet those were not there to recover omni pol bodies but something more......... Probably something not from this world or any humans have ever seen...... if this slithering monster they heard was under omni control we would have seen it already cause we know how much omni likes its toys. But that wasn't a recovery team that was a containment team.
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  10. #30
    Well, some think that what ever it is that is causing this is a boobytrap set up by Silverstone.

    Quite frankly i find that hard to belive. Silverstone does not like to be sublte unless he realy has to.

    And i also think the reason behind the extreme intervention is the same as you have stated. You don´t want us to have this tech, and we don´t want you to have it either, because can you look me in the eye and honestly say that Silverstone would not use such tech if he had it? I _know_ the most militant Omni-Tek people would use it if they had a chance.
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  11. #31
    (IC) As is obvious, the pinpoint accuracy and the sheer lethality of the attacks suggest weapons or nanoprograms that have never been unleashed before upon Rubi-Ka - or the previous victims never survived to tell the tale.

    If Omni-Tek has such awesome weapons, it'd be pretty foolish of them to place them in a scout ship and fly them about in hostile territory, when conventional weapons will have similar effect (vehicle weapons vs. personnel is not conductive to good health). While Omni-Tek has many facets, that of pure stupidity is not the most common one of those.

    While analysis is still pending on the wreckage and debris found, the weapon effects reported are new. Nothing like those effects have been seen on this planet before. In itself, that is a remarkable thing.

    We simply don't know if the ship is from an hitherto unknown race, or of human origin, despite the claims of some parties that it is an Omni-Tek ship. The investigation will, hopefully, reveal more clues as time passes.

    The slithering noises heard cannot be explained without a fine-combing of the crash site and surrounding area. Did anyone find tracks of the apparently invisible entities that were lurking around the crater, to hopefully gain clues as to their nature?

    As for the mental voices, I have no explaination for those. I'm an Engineer, not a meta-phycisist, after all.
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  12. #32
    Originally posted by Kzak
    We simply don't know if the ship is from an hitherto unknown race, or of human origin, despite the claims of some parties that it is an Omni-Tek ship. The investigation will, hopefully, reveal more clues as time passes.
    Omni-Tek is a multi-system corporate body. We manufacture numerous products on numerous worlds. Different worlds will have a different design flair, and different worlds will have a different mineralogical composition, depending on the particulars of the planets formation.

    The number of wheels at the crash site in the wreckage points to a design philosophy used by the Tupolev Design Bureau. Due to the physical realities of their world of manufacture, the Tupolev’s have a bank of wheels running the length of the fuselage, to facilitate landing in areas where airstrips are not available. The TDB rejects VTOL technology as being unreliable and wasteful on fuel, unlike the majority of craft you see here on Rubi-Ka.

    I saw a Tupolev transport one once when I was a merchant marine at Port Hector in the Dakota system. It was a very impressive craft, and I was struck by the particulars of the design. I only wish I would of remembered to grab my camera before I ran out to the Aerodrome.

    Originally posted by Kzak
    The slithering noises heard cannot be explained without a fine-combing of the crash site and surrounding area. Did anyone find tracks of the apparently invisible entities that were lurking around the crater, to hopefully gain clues as to their nature?
    Or, it could be the sound of the fuselage cooling after loosing aerodynamic integrity in the upper atmosphere. I don’t believe we need to jump to invisible entities at this point.
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  13. #33
    Last I checked, Hope was still guarded by ICC peacekeepers, not to mention Hope is connected through Whompahs in Last Ditch and Newland Desert. So... since when is this clan territory?
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  14. #34
    Originally posted by Marisha

    Or, it could be the sound of the fuselage cooling after loosing aerodynamic integrity in the upper atmosphere. I don’t believe we need to jump to invisible entities at this point.
    I am trying to hold the possibilities open and not jump to conclusions. What is definite is that there was *something* slaughtering people left and right, completely unseen by all the people gathered. Thus, it's not so far-fetched to say that something unseen is not visible, aka invisible, right?

    Unless, of course, fuselage and debris cooling has been known to indiscriminately slaughter a large force of armed individuals without any visible clue whatsoever, in which case I will naturally retract my statement and look with wonder upon the new strangeness of the universe.
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  15. #35
    Originally posted by Kzak
    What is definite is that there was *something* slaughtering people left and right, completely unseen by all the people gathered. Thus, it's not so far-fetched to say that something unseen is not visible, aka invisible, right?
    Radiation from a damaged power core is largely unseen by the naked eye. On the other hand, whatever deep scanning device that was installed on the reconnaissance craft could have been damaged in the crash, and the resulting uncontrolled deep scan technology could have been responsible.

    Or, it could be demons. Obviously, demons are responsible.
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  16. #36
    Originally posted by Marisha

    Radiation from a damaged power core is largely unseen by the naked eye. On the other hand, whatever deep scanning device that was installed on the reconnaissance craft could have been damaged in the crash, and the resulting uncontrolled deep scan technology could have been responsible.

    Or, it could be demons. Obviously, demons are responsible.
    I'll leave the matter of demons for the meta-physicists to discuss.

    My engineering background and long, long experience with tecnology suggests that if there was a damaged powercore, the radiation leak would have affected everyone in the area simultaneously, and not kill first one person at the front, then a second person at the back, and so on. Such radiation would also have been detectable by the sensors carried by most science-minded people, and I haven't heard about any such reports.

    Similar with deep scanning equipment, with such an impact that the spacecraft made upon the Mort desert, it's unlikely that fine technology such as deep scanning sensors would have survived in any state even closely resembling operational. Ditto, if such radiation was strong enough to harm people, the trace emissions would have been detected all over Rubi-Ka. Again, there have been no such reports.
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  17. #37
    Originally posted by Sean Connery
    Last I checked, Hope was still guarded by ICC peacekeepers, not to mention Hope is connected through Whompahs in Last Ditch and Newland Desert. So... since when is this clan territory?
    A few points you need to be corrected on.
    Yes....Hope is connected to Newland desert, and in turn Newland itself through the whompa network.
    As far as I remember, Hope "guards" have always been neutral Prison Guards. Not ICC peacekeepers.

    And as for whos territory it is....I advise you next time your in Hope, to fly due west to coordinates 1920 by 1235, Turn to the Northeast...and take a good minute or two to admire the sight before your eyes.....and remember it.
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  18. #38
    Due to secresy i can not give too many details, but an Omni investigative team went up there. State of the art scanning equipment, top of the line personel, enough hardened guards to scare of even a Duster dropship. There was very little to no radiation if i understood the Techies babble right, but there must have been some interesting readings because the one we actualy managed to haul out of there alive was all up in flames over it. And that slithering sound... it was no cooling wreckage, that much i can bet a months combatpay on.

    What ever it was there it drew the interest of the Cyborgs, but they kept their distance. I could smell them out there though. Burnt blood on heated circuitboards. No mistaking that smell.
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  19. #39

    with the Cyborgs...

    Oh, wouldn't that be a lovely pickle. Seeing as how the Sentinels HQ is right down the block, it stands to reason that they are taking charge of security of the site. If anyone can take care of security around there, it would be them. I have no qualms about this, despite what faction my own particular org has (misguidedly, I might add) sided with, namely the Sentinels. I personally don't like the Sentinels, and if there is one thing that we do NOT need in this, it's more of the same "he said, she said" crap about who did what to whom and when between our factions.

    I think it's quite plain to me that whatever or whoever these attackers were/are, they hold no love for any of us, be it Clan, Omni or Neutral. All were being killed on that day, and I witnessed the entire event unfold. I reported only what I saw with my own two ocular symbiants, and I can tell you it's the honest truth. Why would I have the need to lie? It's apparent to me and anyone there that this is a MAJOR threat and it affects all of us. Not just Clan, although Hope is most certainly a Clan zone. If you don't believe it, try to use insurance at any of the stations strewn about the zone. You'll find it's for Clan only.

    In any event, the Cyborgs are a real worry, since they are such a maverick in all of this. What would happen if, say, the unknown attackers were to side up with the Cyborgs? The mere thought makes my skin crawl. Every time I see a cyborg, I kill it. On principle. Because I know there is no rehabilitation, no hope of reclaim of these souls. Lost and forever gone to humanity, they abhor us and seek our destruction. Given what I saw at the crash site, I think that even though these new attackers weren't Cyborgs, you can treat them as such.

    In closing, I think it behooves us all to at least try to get along a bit more than we used to, despite all the finger pointing and bad blood between our factions. We have a new player, and it wants the sandbox all to itself. One nice thing about a war is...eventually it ends. Not a bad place to start something like that, in my opinion.
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  20. #40
    Upon reviewing several secuity pictures and reports of this after my inital comment and seeing some photos of the crash site here is my conclusion.

    1. This vessel was in a free fall since hitting RK automosphere and far to much of it survived to be made from any known materials.
    2. These attacks were pinpointed assults from something that made it through the crash intact enough to be able to fight back was not any known breed. Seeing it had to survive the impact of the free fall the tempetures, and then be able to mount a pin point attack on several humans (from what I understand omni and clans were killed) enough to scare omni enough to send in a containment team of several juggernauts and many soldiers. The fact that both clanners and omni troops lost there lives shows us this was either a malfuctioning combat droid being transported, a illiegal genetic experament, or something never seen before. The robot theroy would make sense if a leg or arm was smged in the drop cause of leaking hydalics or pressure from it power core escapeing, and would make sense why it survived the drop with only its program being damaged makeing it unable to define friend or foe. The genetic weapon could have been a reptile creature with ultrasonic weapons either gentically grown in it or added in later makeing sense why these sound burst could decapatate soldiers from a distence, also seeing such a creture would be one of a kind omni would want to seize it quickly so that they would not be fined for such a genetic atrosity, finnaly seeing the creture would be in transport it would be kept in a armored stasis pod with probably dapners to make sure this thng didn't wake up and would easily make it survie and then when it did wake up it would be mad (come on when u wake up from a long sleep ure not happy either!) and last something else if this was a omni vessel like omni claims I don't think omni piloted this thing in, but something else, something that didn't have a biology that would be effected by the impact and heat, or it could be a highly advanced creature who was inside a high tech survival suit.

    What ever this thing was it should be feared by all sides seeing to my knoledge no side officialy captured or destroyed it which means its out there on the lose, if it is a bot we will see it soon killing, a animal we will see maybe sooner or later will find its den, if its not these 2 and something else I doubt we will find it cause its gonna watch us and sum us up anyone getting close enough to view will be killed before they realize it or the thing will just evade them. No mater what this thing must be caught and nuetralized for the good of all the people on rubika sides should not matter this thing should be killed and destroyed 100% if hostile, if it is intelegent we should detain it for questioing and see why it wishs to harm us.
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