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    Henry Radiman speaks to the Clan Leaders

    Recently Henry Radiman spoke to several clan leaders in the old Council of Truth building. Several witnesses commented that it felt like the glory days of the Council once again. In this reporter's view nothing could be further from the truth.

    The following transcript of Mr Radiman's speech was made available:
    Quickstart: I'll leave the floor to you, sir
    Henry Radiman: Today I stand here again, a year almost after the Council of Truth was disbanded.
    Henry Radiman: A year in which we have fought not only OMNI-TEK, but also each other.
    Henry Radiman: A year in which the idea of a united clan assembly was crushed under the pounding boot of the extremists and the warmongers not amongst us here today.
    Henry Radiman: So you might ask yourself, why did old Henry Radiman drag his bones back to these floors?
    Tinkertrish: yeah why?
    Henry Radiman: A vision.
    Henry Radiman: Not the ones that have been reported all around Rubi-ka and seem to herald the approach of a new era of prosperity or doom, depending on which one you wish to believe....
    Gasltymonkey: Vision Sir?
    Henry Radiman: No, none of those...
    Henry Radiman: But of a vision that was eradicated a year ago and through recent events was rekindled.
    Henry Radiman: Our latest actions against the clans have shown the need for us to try and set our differences aside and
    Henry Radiman: Yes
    Henry Radiman: Before you all start again about how this is impossible, I beg you, hear me out.
    Henry Radiman: JOBE...
    Henry Radiman: The need to reunite is JOBE.
    Henry Radiman: Why, do you ask?
    Henry Radiman: You have all heard the reports of the portal to the shadowlands opening.
    Henry Radiman: You all know about the claims OMNI-TEK has made on them, not to mention the replies some of our brethren have given . . .
    Henry Radiman: . . . regretable, but there is no way of reversing either.
    Henry Radiman: Most also know about the speech the esteemed Mr. Ross has given and the orders he issued that led to the skirmish in Broken Shores....
    Henry Radiman: Who would you give the better odds, NOT just looking at numbers...OMNI who, as they claim have repossessed the Portal and will move in as one company....
    Henry Radiman: or the many scattered clans all trying to carve out their little niches?
    Deepblade: amen to that
    Henry Radiman: And what of Jobe itself? How will they react to us?
    Henry Radiman: Therefore gentlemen, I tell you we MUST try and restart the Council of Truth and give it a second chance
    Henry Radiman: for it might be our ONLY chance.
    Henry Radiman: Now. . .
    Henry Radiman: Oh my god....
    Aeonath: What the...?
    Praxies: huh
    Eabn stares starteled
    Eugene23 is stuned
    Shinryaku: .......
    Gasltymonkey: what the...
    Deepblade: what the
    Ricck: huh
    Stephie69: waht the heck?
    Urida: oh my ...
    Deepblade: to arms
    Quickstart talks into his NCU, muttering something about safeties to stun
    Deepblade: should we help him??
    Henry Radiman: Who are you? What are you doing here?
    Henry Radiman: Oh my god!
    Henry Radiman: Preserve me.
    Henry Radiman: Its is YOU!
    Henry Radiman: You have returned to us from the past.
    Gasltymonkey: Sir?
    Gasltymonkey: Whats Going On?
    Quickstart: I'm not the only one seeing that, right?
    Dragonspy712: this could turn ugly
    Tinkertrish: i saw
    Stephie69: no quickstart...
    Sylverbane looks on grimly
    Stephie69: sir? waht is hapening?
    Gasltymonkey: sir?
    Aeonath: I see it too... But I'm not sure what I'm seeing.
    Aeonath: Step back, people...
    Dragonspy712: quickstart do you know if radiman left the building?
    Kayl: Is Mr radiman safe now?
    Quickstart shouts: leave the platform unti lwe know what it is! might make you sterile that ray
    Rkurtini: Everyon get back from the light
    Quickstart shouts: any scientists in the crowd?
    Aeonath: Radiman is safe.
    Aeonath: I saw him leave with a few others.
    Quickstart: Radiman is safe...he has been escorted to safe place.
    Quickstart shouts: Okay people..show is over....I have a decontamination team coming to take a look at this.
    I wonder where Mr Radiman was when the Sentinels were forced to use their soldiers to take control over Tir when Omni-Tek employees were flooding our beautiful city or when the Tir Accord collapsed?

    We are fighting for our very freedom here Mr Radiman. What is it that you are fighting for? Peace is surely not an option any longer.

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    Curious how Mr. Radiman goes to such extravagent lengths with eccentric words to unite the clans, yet purposely excludes clans who he calls "extremists".

    Quite the qualification to impose.

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    Time to look at the big picture.

    Fact: Omni-Tek's lease on Rubi-Ka is due to expire before long. The ICC control the lease.
    Fact: The Tir Accord is the only official document that gives Clan legal entitlement to lands on Rubi-Ka under ICC law
    Fact: The Tir Accord was rendered void when the Council of Truth disbanded.

    If the Clans wish to have a say in how the lease on Rubi-Ka is managed in the post OT era, they need the Tir Accord. Like it or loathe it, without the Tir Accord the Clans are little more than squatters under ICC law. Therefore the road ahead for the Clans must surely be clear to all. Bring back the CoT and with that in place concentrate on getting the Tir Accord reinstated. If the Clans can prove in the 50 or so years left on the lease that they can provide a stable, responsible form of self-government, they will be well placed to bid for the lease. If the Clans persist with anarchy, in-fighting and supporting acts of terror, chances are some other mega-corp will replace Omni-Tek.

    This is decision time for the Clans, and it shouldn't be me having to tell you thins. Do you want to keep acting like rebellious teenagers or will you claim your place as adults within the ICC?

    Savoy
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

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    In other words, Savoy, we should become the very thing we have been fighting against?
    Taren "Jynne" Suitt, Level 216/16 Eternalist
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    Intresting

    So the old man returnes to his broken down clans society? Intresting development indeed. The clans have been fighting among themselves more than they do with my corporation. I am an advocate of peace, I like to protect, not attack. It is my job as part of Omni-Pol.

    I am disappointed that we could not reach an agreement with the TIR accord but it is now void, a usless document that the clans wish not to recognize. The hope lies with Mr. Radiman to unite the clans back into the leadership they had before but this time it must be stronger and take everyone into account.

    Prehaps there is a way to coexsist on the desert rock we call Rubi-ka, but if the clans are unwilling to cooperate then the conflict will continue as if we where primitive apes without a brain..... how pathetic....


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    Jynne, its not about "selling out to the man", it's about taking a realistic and responsible view about your future and the good of your people. Like it or not, Rubi-Ka is not just another floating rock in the galaxy. Maybe on a less strategic world, the Clans would be able to live out their anarchic fantasies forever. However there is notum on Rubi-Ka, the only known source of notum in existance. Whether you choose to accept this or not, the supply of notum is a bigger issue to humanity as a whole than the right of self-determination of a few hundred thousand ex-colonists. The clans are not the indigenous species to Rubi-Ka, your rights under ICC law are very hazy. And before you turn around and say you don't necessarily recognise ICC law, do consider that it is only thanks to ICC law that the Clans exist at all and enjoy the benefits of insurance technology among other things.

    A decision over Rubi-Ka's future will be taken. Whether you choose to be part of it or not is up to you.
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

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    Savoy... I'm referring to the fact that the ICC stands for "Intersteller Confederation of Corporations" and that the implication of "being a member of the ICC" is that the Clans will have to literally become what we've been fighting - a corporation.

    I'm all for a united Clan planetary government. But forgive me if the idea of the Clans becoming a corporation makes me want to chuckle on so many levels. The irony alone would make "CoT, Inc" the greatest joke in the galaxy for years.
    Taren "Jynne" Suitt, Level 216/16 Eternalist
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    Originally posted by Jynne
    Savoy... I'm referring to the fact that the ICC stands for "Intersteller Confederation of Corporations" and that the implication of "being a member of the ICC" is that the Clans will have to literally become what we've been fighting - a corporation.

    I'm all for a united Clan planetary government. But forgive me if the idea of the Clans becoming a corporation makes me want to chuckle on so many levels. The irony alone would make "CoT, Inc" the greatest joke in the galaxy for years.
    If it ensures peace, liberty and prosperity for your children and your children's children, why the hell not? The 'old ways' have just brought you decades upon dacase of senselss bloodshed. Maybe its time to be a bit more open minded and try something new.

    Savoy
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

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    Savoy, as much as I do agree with you in wanting to take land and control for us back, and as much as it may be under ICC law, and what may have you... understand this as well...

    We're not JUST fighting for our land here, I think you miss the picture that we are also fighting for our lively hood. It's not just reclaiming our land but also stopping Omni-Tek period now.

    Having a CoT and Tir Accord does help with the ICC but you know I really don't give a damn what the ICC thinks of us.

    Fact: Do us clan members have to reunite? YES
    Fact: Do us clan members need to begin to assure our land control? YES
    Fact: Do us clan members need to begin to assure that the Shadowlands does not become another stomping ground for omni? YES
    Fact: Do us clan members need to stop the corporation from turning Shadowlands into another Rubi-Ka? YES
    FACT (and the most important of them all): Do us clan members need to stop squabbaling amoungst each other? YES

    Those above are the most imporant issues, that I feel the CoT would help resolve, more important than any ICC Law that we have some time to try to figure out.

    Also note, that to look "good" under ICC law, wouldn't that help make us have to follow other laws and other regulations that begin to turn into the opposite of what we are all about?
    Last edited by Nexeus/Tharkael; Sep 16th, 2003 at 16:56:14.
    Nexeus Fatale
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    Zane "Tharkael" Conmy

    - "The secret to "the list" is that once you are on it, you automatically become Timelapse's and Regulas' chew toy."

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    Originally posted by Tharkael
    ...but you know I really don't give a damn what the ICC thinks of us.
    Goodie. The Clans are now instigating fights with the rest of the galaxy. That certain relieves the pressure somewhat...

    Ammicus leans back in his chair, sipping his coffee

    Originally posted by Tharkael
    Also note, that to look "good" under ICC law, wouldn't that help make us have to follow other laws and other regulations that begin to turn into the opposite of what we are all about?
    I would like to thank the esteemed president of Vitae Covente for pointing out that clanners do not follow laws and regulations of any form or kind. That said, how does one intend to structure a society in absence of such basic, moral devices?

    It would appear that Henry Radiman is not the only Clan leader addicted to halucinogenic illegal stims.

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    Tharkael,

    Clans fighting for their livelyhood? Good heavens man, where have you been? On the ground Clan have OTRK forces both outnumbered and out gunned. We are just about hanging on in the south, and despite the posturing, there is just ins't the will or the power to take the north back. When last Novemeber OTSEC issued and ultimatium to Ares Pact forces to lay down their weapons, did they actually follow through? When last May Storm ambushed and killed a good number of Omni faction leaders, where the ciulprits ever brought to justice? Heck, did OT even mount a perfunctory retaliation strike at this act of extreme provocation?

    No, the on and off border clashes, raids and counter raids between Omni and Clan forces are not the big picture, not by far. Do you think should the Clans manage to expell OT from Rubi-Ka, the ICC will leave them in charge? Do you think that if OT manage to wipe out the Clans their lease of Rubi-Ka would get extended?
    No, my dear man, in the scheme of things the Omni - Clan conflict is redundent, a remeant of a previous era. The issues that really matter to Rubi-Ka relate to the post-OTRK era, and time is running out for the clans to get their collective act together.


    Savoy
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

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    Originally posted by Savoy
    When last Novemeber OTSEC issued and ultimatium to Ares Pact forces to lay down their weapons, did they actually follow through?
    It was the Council of Ares, dont confuse them with the Atlantean Pact please And we went to the OTSEC meeting peacefully, and were fired upon. Too bad I cant drag up the old posts about that.

    Benjamin "Fixerben" Bacarella - L212 AL10
    Haywood "Brawlking" Jablomy - L220 AL21

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    ((Note to Fixerben: Check the "Archive" section - it has all that old lubby goodness ))

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    Fixerben hands Savoy a Clan application form.

    Ok Savoy, Use that form. Then come over to the Clan side and create a Clan wide organization that will include all people. Including the Militants, Moderates, and the Meddlers. And keep all 3 groups happy. While at the same time keeping good relations between a Galactic corporation with unlimited resources to pound a treaty down your throat. Once you can do all that, I will call you Queen of Rubi-Ka, or whatever you want. But until then, Please stop complaining like its an easy task to accomplish. Beleive me, it isnt, I've tried. Maybe its time to try again...

    Benjamin "Fixerben" Bacarella - L212 AL10
    Haywood "Brawlking" Jablomy - L220 AL21

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    Sort of missing the point there, Ben. I am not saying OTSEC acts were justified or well thought out. My point was is that OTSEC's threat lacked teeth. OT has not been a credible threat to the Clans existance for a very long time, if anything its Clans who have enjoyed the upper hand.

    Savoy
    Dabblez - Rubi-Ka Universal Robots (RUR)
    We put the Art into Artificial Intelligence!

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    Sheesh so the old man turns up outta the blue and expects us to ...what?...kiss his hand?

    Where the heck was he when Silverstone and his band o' nutters were waltzing all over Tir and when Omni-Pol was treating the place like it was their trash heap or somethin'?

    The geezer's got a real bad habit of taking off when things start gettin' a little rough. And that ain't good.

    By the way where was good ol' Simon when the old man was giving his speech?


    Katelin "Kaetty" Russi
    The Independent Fixer

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    Originally posted by Ammicus


    Goodie. The Clans are now instigating fights with the rest of the galaxy. That certain relieves the pressure somewhat...
    I'm not trying to instigate anything with the rest of the galaxy, if I were, trust me I'll say something a bit worse. All I'm saying is that if ICC regards us now or not, it is of NO CONCERN as off this moment, the clans as a whole have other larger matters to attend to rather than how ICC looks down upon us.

    Originally posted by Ammicus

    I would like to thank the esteemed president of Vitae Covente for pointing out that clanners do not follow laws and regulations of any form or kind. That said, how does one intend to structure a society in absence of such basic, moral devices?
    Once again, you are wrong. It's not that we do not follow any laws and regulations, I did not say that at all. But what Clans are all about is being free, not being oppressed and not having to be lead aimlessly. Clans is freedom, it is the ability to control one self, and to look after one another. Not the ability to follow under a regime and do what they say. It's the ability of CHOICE. That's all we - ALL I fight for. If a Tir Accord gives us the ability to CHOOSE, fine so be it, but I will not do it with the pretense of doing it to appease some other corporation of the galaxy, I would so it because it appeases myself, and the people who believe in me.

    Originally posted by Savoy

    Sort of missing the point there, Ben. I am not saying OTSEC acts were justified or well thought out. My point was is that OTSEC's threat lacked teeth. OT has not been a credible threat to the Clans existance for a very long time, if anything its Clans who have enjoyed the upper hand.
    Actually I quite disagree with you Savoy, as much as the threat lacked "teeth" number wise, they have been better organized than the clans, they have more resources than the clans as a whole, and they do not get into the type of skimirshes that the Clans do. If anything, Omni has been behind but not for long. ALSO, note that Omni is always the first to move, just like the Shadowlands portal, they have been the first to claim it's rights and were the people whom funded this project. Had we not fought, would any of us clan members be heading to this other world now?

    Let me also not Savoy, for someone aligned with the Omni-Tek, you are very concerned about what is happening to the clans, and almost wish for us to prosper, as if you were one of us...
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    Zane "Tharkael" Conmy

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    We need the Council of Ares Back....

    Too many clanner are complacent, and have forgotten how to fight, Omni-Tek oushes closer to our homes everyday, and Radiman speaks with the do-gooders, and the care bear clanners. Let the fighters in on these processions, the fighters are the reason the clans have held onto what they still have.

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    And so we arrive at the fundamental flaw in your argument, Mr. Conmy, and that is, what, exactly, gives you the right to simply "choose" to ignore whatever laws you do not agree with?

    Let us assume for a moment the Clans do succeed in their perverse delusional dream of securing independance from Omni-Tek and the rest of the known galaxy. Naturally, you will elect a government, which will make laws and enact regulations. Assume a moment that you, Mr. Conmy, are the individual whom is entrusted with the presidency of this republic.

    Tell me, what would you do if 45% (a minority) of your electorate decided to ignore all of your laws, to wage war on your industry and your citizens, engage in the theft of patented technological information, and be a pervasive nuissance to you, your family and your friends?

    Odd how a simple paradigm shift can open the mind, isn't it?

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    Originally posted by Angelhunter
    We need the Council of Ares Back....

    Too many clanner are complacent, and have forgotten how to fight, Omni-Tek oushes closer to our homes everyday, and Radiman speaks with the do-gooders, and the care bear clanners. Let the fighters in on these processions, the fighters are the reason the clans have held onto what they still have.
    I dont think we are quite that desperate yet. If the CoT is going to reform and truly be Democratic then there is no need for the CoA. Except maybe to replace Silverstone's guards in Tir. I would love to see some better guards replace them. Maybe I could whip some of my Applicants into shape and have them partol. Maybe that could be the solution to our Silverstone problem. I would still want him represented in the Council, but he really has no place running a city.

    Benjamin "Fixerben" Bacarella - L212 AL10
    Haywood "Brawlking" Jablomy - L220 AL21

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