More the fool he.Originally posted by Sumokan
Just for fyi a EO member was told by a GM that using both pads even by a neutral is a exploit.
Even back on day one, we had MMD as a pvp area. And guess what? its over run by Omni and Clan. Now what would happen if we had an arena in Borealis? it would be overrun by Omni and Clan. As such there is no need for one. You want an arena overun with Omni and Clan go to Tir or Ent.Originally posted by Sumokan
A Borlis Arena was proposed a year ago before Notum Wars hit. Since it was apparent that neutrals lagged behind PvP experence. Also the arena would have allowed low level neutrals get more aquanted with the pvp aspect of the game thereby enabling us to better protect towers. Many new comers don't even know about the pvp areas. Also as I said it was before the whompa system was in place to Last Ditch and Hope.
The point I was making was that from the time your thugs took over Newland, attacks on local neutral towers, including our own where then massively more from Omni. If you don't believe me, as the FTA. That is the point I am making. You gave them the right to reign in neutral territory. And after the thugs came, the Clans who attacked all mentioned the thugs as a reason. Thereby the thugs are a major point in this, and the fool be who ignores that.Originally posted by Sumokan
Exactly what point are you making? Your base is attacked more by Omnis? I was speaking about the whole neutral communty. Also the clan has attacked neutrals way before the Merc arrived in New Land. If you buy into the fact that they attacked you due to the mercs you are a bigger fool then they are.
Actually we had a meeting to discuss the fact that a tower was going to be given to us via force. And the decission was rightly that we shouldnt accept it. It was wrong, and something we couldnt do...and we didnt do.Originally posted by Sumokan
Since you seem to be directing this at me and EO let me clarify some points. The Lions Den lied about attacking our towers by mistake. They wanted towers and decided it was safer to attack a neutral guild instead of Omni. They never offered our towers back at all we asked for monatary compensation instead which they refused as well. The only compensation we could get from them is that they will help us attack a Omni tower. We waited for over a month for a apology and none came. I spoke to the Omni org leader of "The Forsaken" and was told they broke there peace treaty. I asked Lions Den if this was true and they replied "they are Omnis we don't have to respect treaties".
I then used all that information to attack Lions Dens. Now for a little information that you might not know. It was agreed that IR was going to get the tower spot if the raid was successful since ya all lost a tower spot by Omni pol (which by the way you took from Omnis in the 1st place) in exchange for some aid. You may ask Yargo about this. About moaning well I guess I should have used "Axis of Evil" instead of saying "scum sucking clanners" since one is moaing and the other is not. Get yer facts straight, at no time the clan agreed to apologize or make the matter right. When the Axis attacked ya and ya said they broke a treaty I believed ya at face value.
But you do forget something here, and that was it was you who asked me to negotiate for you with the Clans. And it was me who spent almost two weeks running back and forth with the messages of the greedy demands you yourself put to the Clans. The GA4 they accepted and got, the apologys, everything. At the start of that week I was against the Clans due to how they acted. On face value they were in the wrong, which actually they admitted. But how they were treated was the problem in this which went to fuel neutral hatred.
Yes I am ex Omni....as are so many others. But I am open with that and do not hide it. The thugs you hired don't hide it either. They sadly still wear the OT logo. We do not, and do not wish to either.Originally posted by Sumokan
As far as grovling I really don't understand what I did to merit that. I contracted mercs that was ex Omni employees. Where ya not a ex Omni employee? I did not ask any Omni to help me in my raids.
I can not say if the tower was the 1st or not, but it did cause alot of actions to happen due to it. Alot of the rules that govern the IR came about through debate and through what had happened. And such was due to that. That happened very quickly and as such many didnt know, but what came of it was a set of laws such as the "shall not take a tower through hostile means", and the "defence only" rules. An organisation is the sum of its parts, and what rules it makes come from them. But rules can only be formed through the events of what happens, and as such this was quiet litterally a defining moment for the IR when so many issues came to be formed into rules.Originally posted by Sumokan
Attacked a sided tower 1st............................IR
Oddly enough, there was never an election in IR for president until I became leader. That is a fact which many ignore. Yes I came to the position of president via not being elected. But then again so had all the others. But those who followed were elected. And yet again this came through change.Originally posted by Sumokan
Took over a guild w/o elections..........................IR
If you are refering to myself, then its actually directed towards you and not EO. Yes EO takes the flak sometimes but thats more due to them being in the contract for the thugs. Nothing more. Our arguing is just that. Between you and me. Nothing to do with IR and EO at all.Originally posted by Sumokan
Allowed a member to publically KOS a entire neut org............IR
Yes we have people who backed the mercs. As a matter of fact we still have members who back the mercs. But I am not stopping them expressing there views. They are free to speak. Just as I am free to speek they are. We are all members of the same organisation. We are all citizens of Rubi-ka. That doesnt mean what I or anyone else says covers everyone does it.Originally posted by Sumokan
Has officers who funded and backed the mercs......................IR
Last time I checked the Newland Council was still there. I haven't overthrown a government as far as I can tell. Have I mentioned that they should listen to the populace, and the majority yes. Have I also said that if they don't listen to the majority they should be removed. Also yes. But I havent taken arms against them. Nor have I tried to remove them by force. As always, what I have said is exactly that...what I have said and meant as something which can be worked from for a goal.Originally posted by Sumokan
Overthrow the New land Govt.............................................. ...IR
If that means having a guard which is capable of shooting someone who attacks a neutral citizen or neutral property then Yes. If like you I would prefer to have Newland guarded by a guard who will either ignore a neutral being shot at, or actually assist the attacker then yes, I am wanting to allow these people to be stopped.Originally posted by Sumokan
Willing to leave New Land unprotected to preserve his neutral
status..........................IR
I didn't at the time due to the fact there was no need for a neutral to attack first. We didn't have a tower. We didn't own land other than Newland City itself. So at that time we had no need too. But situations can change, and now there is no other solution than to have bullets going all ways. How Rubi-ka has become a much more dangerous place.Originally posted by Sumokan
Does not beleive in able to attack 1st.........................IR
The differance is I havent sold out to anyone. I have, and still do use force when necessary. I do not beleive that wasting anyones life be that Omni, Clan or Neutral is a good thing...even if they can reclaim. More can be accomplished through diplomatic means and through a good case of sitting down and having a beer than through mindless slaughter over a tower or in a street. You seem to worship money, death and destruction over anything else. And I pity you for that. There is more out there than that and it is something which sadly you are missing.Originally posted by Sumokan
Well damn Nyadach looking at that you are the best friend Clan can have. I mean not too many people can spit at ya, walk on ya, and call ya a fence sitter and ya remain "lets be friends" attitude. I salute you for being a prime example of Uncle Tom or in this case Uncle Funcom. If ya want to call me a Omni in neut clothing so be it. But I rather be called that then be known as a coward willing to sell out to clan all in the name of so called. phoney peace.
p.s. and yeah, I do enjoy these rants...way too much unfortunatly hehe.