Yikes, check out the helmet

**Xephydes** · Nov 10th, 2003, 19:53:59

:O

**Xephydes** · Nov 10th, 2003, 20:00:10

Actually, check out a potential dream armor config with the new "named ql 300 armor" instead:

A nice little setup

**Trilic** · Nov 10th, 2003, 20:06:27

xeph can you post the name of the helmet please, I have to look on the Auno db, cause AODB is blocked here at work o.0 DOH!

**Xephydes** · Nov 10th, 2003, 21:21:35

Helmet of Hypocrisy Nice stuff =)

**Xpie** · Nov 11th, 2003, 07:37:55

...robots in disguise..

**Xephydes** · Nov 11th, 2003, 09:12:02

lol

Nostalgic comments, reminds me of all the broke Transformers I have up on the attic

**Xpie** · Nov 11th, 2003, 09:49:31

So when is it possible for an MP to get 1750 CL?

**Delano** · Nov 11th, 2003, 15:06:13

Hot Stuff!
(Looks better and has nicer stats then our tier3 armor). Looks like I have to speed up to get to Pandemonium to get my hands on this stuff.

**Xephydes** · Nov 11th, 2003, 15:23:29

Actually, I think just about only our tier 3 shoulderpads are worth the camping ,but something tells me this armor won't be easy to get either

1750 comp lit is steep though, not sure when we can get it.... Any number crunchers want to try?

**Trilic** · Nov 11th, 2003, 16:23:04

1750 CL, not bad for a trader...but for us...hmm..

But if I was to make a guess, with heavily implanting CL, and using CL things that you can find....I would say around lvl 210ish maybe less, maybe more....just my guess...

**_____________Demogog** · Nov 11th, 2003, 17:36:44

Hehe a helmet that makes me look like one of my meatballs! Meatwad will be sooooo jelous!

**DiddiDave934** · Nov 11th, 2003, 19:07:44

Well, there the new Azure in all its glory

**cov186** · Nov 11th, 2003, 23:29:22

Originally posted by Xephydes
1750 comp lit is steep though, not sure when we can get it.... Any number crunchers want to try?

This isn't the full number crunching, just some notes.

By using the nice database at www.aodb.info, I did some research.

FC has some rather unpleasant designs in mind for us. Let's have a look at how the MP is to "gear up" for the high CL requirement. Patch 15.0 brought us SL and 14.9 was sort of a set-up for SL, so I started with 14.9.

Of the items that are from patch 14.9 onward, that add to Comp Lit, and are not NODROP, you get...

Zero.

Chosen/Faithful MP armor gives a bonus to Comp Lit, but it's NODROP.

Exploiter armor isn't NODROP, but it's Fixer or Bureaucrat-only armor.

Smuggler's armor isn't NODROP, but it's Enforcer or Trader-only armor.

Superjolt? Fixer-only. MTI G04U? Trader-only.

Now, actually, there is one item. It's called the "Technocrat Merit Board" and has only a UNIQUE tag, not a NODROP tag. Seeing as this fits into the neck slot and gives the exact same CL bonus as a 1000-token board, I can't really include it because it won't really help anyone who has a 1000-token board.

Adding in NODROP items is a bit sketchy because some nice items might be on a timer, require a quest, or ask you to defeat the Penultimate Lord of Pandemoneum with a pair of leet dolls. So numbers can be run on it but I'm not sure how "possible" it'd be to achieve.

Finally, don't forget that a certain amount of CL will be required to keep this armor out of the Over-Equipping realm. As nice as that helmet is, it'd be rough to keep out of OE without continuously being equipped with CL implants and/or CL items, and if we need CL items to keep this helmet on... what's the point? Okay, scaring people at the Ent BB or Tir FT. What else?

I don't have enough data to work with.

**Xpie** · Nov 13th, 2003, 13:33:04

Originally posted by Covenant

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Finally, don't forget that a certain amount of CL will be required to keep this armor out of the Over-Equipping realm. As nice as that helmet is, it'd be rough to keep out of OE without continuously being equipped with CL implants and/or CL items, and if we need CL items to keep this helmet on... what's the point? Okay, scaring people at the Ent BB or Tir FT. What else?

I don't have enough data to work with.

Symbiants

**Bobv** · Nov 14th, 2003, 01:18:54

woot power rangers that cast mokies!!! what more could one ask for!

**cov186** · Nov 14th, 2003, 06:00:35

Originally posted by Xpie

Symbiants

Symbiants would nicely solve the problem of requiring something implanted in Computer Literacy to keep them from going OE, and even toss in a little benefit in added INT.

I'm not sure that symbiants would help us get enough CL in the first place though - refined implants and NODROP items of unknown availability seem more likely. What worries me is that the process of getting the armor on might interfere with returning to regular implants/symbiants, because those symbiants sure have a high Treatment requirement. If the best way to reach that Treatment is with newly introduced wearable items, then it's going to be rough.

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