having spent considerable time learning about implants *from* Morgoth/Lifedrain, I must say you realllly are dead on wrong there. He knows an awful lot about implants, buffs, math, and other useful things too.. Storyline details. How to PvP. He's a treasure-house of AO knowledge and I'd appreciate it if you'd at least show him the respect he deserves. Failing that, give the guy a chance and get to know him before forming assumptions.
Thank you
Zyxlquith
Ok who wants this patch? Is it people who are sick and tired of those people who are uber OE and kill everyone in PVP? If so nerf OE'rs in a PVP situation, 0-25% gas (PS does 50% gas exist?). How much of the population of Rubi-Ka actually PVP's anyway. I like the game play and I could care less about PVP. Leave the rest of us alone to play our game. One of the best parts of this game is the thought it takes to finally get that gun on with implants, buffs and a lucky level or 2. Don't screw a majority because a minority is complaining. You guys did a poll awhile ago and if I remember correctly the majority of the people polled did NOT spend their time PVP'ing.
As for IP reset I think it is the least they can do considering the crappy instruction manual that came with the game. Don't know about you but mine made good kindling for a fire.
lol
Whats the common group you see? Enforcer, Doctor, Enforcer, Enforcer, ...maybe an adventurer. What? a fixer wants to join our group? ROFLMAGFMFAO!!! Trader? Hmmm..might be usefull, but we best get another Enforcer, LOL. MP? Hellz ya they own d3wd, uberness. Agent? lol nerfage, bye. NT? lol they do sweet dmg but if they get aggro hes fuxxored, best get another doctor. Soldier, sweet dude, get him. MA. hell ya, they got ownagelast patch. Beaurocrat...sure..wait..our groups full, sorry d3wd. <---this is what the game has turned into. This patch will fix all that.
Enforcer, will no longer have a QL 200 hammer at lvl 50, a good thing.
Engineer, will no longer have a level 70 bot at level 29, a good thing.
MA's will be the same, a bad thing, nerf them down to the above standards.
Bearo's, never played one so I dunno.
Doctors, wont be affected, they heal.
Traders, buffs needed? NP man.
other classes I cant really say much for...on how the patch will effect them.
Flame away, but the fact remains if someone cant own a deep red monster..or humanoid, they seem to think they arent uber enough..or they are gimped. Thats what this game has turned into. I hope funcom isnt discouraged and implements this. Carebears and uber pkays alike will whine about this, but they will learn to cope, as long as they still ownz joo, under the new balance, everything will be cool for them. So many people said they would quit when FC did the pvp nerf on damage...no one did..or at least a very small bit :/. One problem I see with this patch though..(because everyone is twinked...and most are more then 20% OE) if this isnt done correctly the first time. I foresee tumble weeds blowing in the Omni Ent very soon, so do this right FC, or dont do it at all. Later
Maybe someone should start a poll on who think Drabin's a dork.
Count me in on the YES list!Originally posted by DoctorEarl
Maybe someone should start a poll on who think Drabin's a dork.
or at least on the list that says that Drabin should get new glasses...
I finally bothered looking at his list. not sure why I'm even on there.
doc cam, wanna start the poll? :P
OFFICIAL FORUM POLL (OE - corrected)
This is the corrected version. Oh Dogmatize, let's see there were 3 corrections. I placed you from the positive list to the negative list when I should of had you on the neutral list because your first post mentioned nothing about whether or not you were for or against. I moved Cryncyn (mispelled perhaps) from the neutral poll to the Positive poll and moved DrCam from the Neutral poll to the negative poll.
Like I said I am going by first poll message entries - (NOT 23 entries by one person) - if you want to slide to one side of the list just say Drabin, change me from this to this. As it stands - no other complaints except for 3 people - one of which was in the right slot the whole time.
(Positive) - Those that give a favorable remark or outright approve the OE part of the patch.(Negative) - Those that give an unfavorable remark or outright disapprove of the OE part of the patch.(Neutral) - Those that say nothing about the patch altogether, wish for further testing, or are neither for or against the OE part of the patch.
This poll will get bigger. This poll is the offical poll of the OE part of this patch for the first 68 (SIXTY EIGHT) pages of the thread. This poll is current and up to date.
(Positive) - 170 votes
(Negative) - 97 votes
(Neutral) - 111 votes
(Positive list)
Squick
Hoover
Eloy
Pangur
Kryos
MSag
Poteen
Intra
Drabin
Nightlord
MrTreatime
Erelius
Bionitrous
Psilock
n0th1ng
AIL leader
Stuckey
Blackwing
Corri_SOTA
Marthos
Terrorizer
Dr. Sent
Scorus
Omega
Sytrae
hideo2
onomastikon
ImaGideon
Szentisha
Katwon
Psilock
Jorl
Freedman
Darkbane
Magikha
Dark_Omen
Hextorr
Sarelron
Nalissa
Highttower
Edict
Kilrwavz
Nibiru
Paldorr
Thargon
Steroidjerk
dJOEk
Skybert
Deljin Blaed
Drenir
Mmore
Nakoda
Xephiroth
Templar Red
Pacifica
Psilex
Rawsan
Ionick
Shard
Fion
Muftak
Seoman
JohnMcClain
Ymodem-G
Akushin
Lichoon
Moondawg
Brad, STL/MO
Davedread
Cernix
Oldscotch
Snails
Siksi
Tekhead
Gigaquad
Netsapiens
Ponder
Puppetfinger
Charritty
Bully
Zuh
Qantaqa
Starbob
Fumar
Zargoslord
Thescotsman
Zwie
Tipai
Mikebond
General JinJinn
Whitedread
Gaspard
Doc against PvP
Chynn
Mirandia
Reppaz
Malkosha
Xyberviri
Spook
Lightining
ENF*isarugi
Lozer
VamphOzr
Camper
Skara
Bronto-Cowboy
nanomancer
Meka
Keisuki FD
Snublefot
Pencap
neurozic
Vrach
hexxia
hextorr
Lilith
CHILD
Silmaril
Chromatorg
Angelous0001
VIP1912
Croaker
Shadelore
Cheetra
Foul Ole Ron
Nikho
DeKida
Dogleg
MorphX
Sloth
Profusious
Striked
Exekius
Highway
Strikethree
DiVillian
Fotik
Canidy
D.Shaffer
Elria
Iceman
Nvrmore100
Killahsin
Cyberwiz
Tyger
RedSonja
Aimabel
Mimmi
Maephina
Dogberry545
Dorn B’Dinn
LucidTrance
ArAgOrN
Master Wong
Rexpen
Helise
AdvClown
Noq
Paganheart
EziSarious
Christopher
Yme
Troll
MrPendent
Ieungm
Thruthvang
Adolanabantz
Beastie
Crymcyn
Marleen
(Negative List)
Pantheon
Darkphoenix
Wompla
MuCephi
Xylon
Thegrimblade
DJuxtapose
BigStrongGuy
max-iic
Tindish
Dareus
Scumbug
Arila
Baxie
Munti
Tjessem
Slinki
Rolller
Morgoth
Omniscient
DukeLeto
Julia Pomka
Zyxlquith
Marc
Ford Prefect
ArticZ
Subject IV
Rankin Dread
Jakespeed
Ironphist
Peekaboo
Teccer
Gokudan
Aaeleji
Fongsayyuk
Zeroshift
Mechrabbit
Wutto
Pete1010
Lord Cyrik
Sdloner
Smack
Usananoman
Crin
Don Fiendieloni
Ethanmonat
Phelisha
Skatty
Stifelife
Shizara
Suede
Xandru
heart of evil
Tsk
Demoncleaner
Urshulgi
Blade / Silki X
Celestiness
thatdangelf
reznoir
Junglerot
mahdi
Felix7
mephala
Mrbunny
Valis
Zarfon
Barron
Stickyspoonz
Ravencroft
Melcommish
Postier
Furyferret
Denaura
Donzilla
Lord iCeDrAgOn
Uziel
Painsmaiden
Greybear
Leviathan
Gemfire
Jeek500
Exmax
KIRTAP
Zhubarb
Its-me
Entrap
Hafenbraut
Wirus
Seppo
Boogiebum
Dogmatize
DrCam
Silent
Anisotropic
Maitrize
Raysight
(Neutral List)
Starknaked
Cloud
Azzazzimon
Nitewolf
Valdus
Dropcid
Urshu
Defjam
Kirrana
WGMelchior
Evilglitch
ryu1313
Lord Nemesis
Takuan
RoboKa
Miriandel
Snarf
Besheba
Moodyman
Arcanian
Penguin
Arinia
Dscoper
Vandame
Zuleica
Fingers
Cbehrens40
Xtremtech
Orion
Alkanphel
grahamX0r
Cub
Cat
Selfished
Senator-jesse
Pneuma
Machievelli
Jackswift
Jentai
Halbundy
Ecce
Gavalon
Yme
MrGumby
Forth
daVinci
Thral
Halcyinv2
Utrilla
Eliteskillz
Ulala
[Crispy Chicken]
Skyxxis
Damion666
maxenhancements
killahsin
Tek
Matilades
Oshikai
Shandrilar
Anglais
Morloyck
Sensei
Stabber
Avatarius
Medwar
x-genesis
kijiko
cerbius-trader
Cheese
doctorearl
war
Cadelite
stercoral
nanogater
Spacegipsy
kaiousama
Glotock
Jodocast
Nzime
Bauxite
Bartleby
Nerdboy
Muni
Rentrenegade
Griemdall
Sadie
Vespucci
Maligant
Vicktor
Talonpheonix
Relic
Xylon
Hawx
LordHelmchen
Lanasia
Diu
Oniko
Metabolism
Spambastard
Maximilian
Xaeberane
Aurorae
Mara
Ripple of Soul
Ultra1
Turbulence
Carlsberg
Freedmen
Krui
Sernon*-)
Last edited by Drabin; Mar 14th, 2002 at 01:55:50.
this list was made because I wanted to see how many people were for or against. Even if the list is off by 10 percent even, the majority of people are FOR the OE patch in 14.2.
So do I care what Drcam thinks? Hell no. I just want to know where to put his sorry ass in the list.
Drcam goes in the sorry ass negative list.
The last word for me on this anyway.
This patch will only change the balance of the professions from level 1 to 60. Past 60, it will make no impact. Once you are past 60, twinking becomes less and less of an issue.
Case in point. My level 107 enforcer can self buff into a QL 200 hammer with ease. In fact, he can almost wield a QL 200 beam with no penalty. (Only need 3 levels).
My level 63 soldier can equip 130 Nova flow with no penalties. Before the OE, I would probably have around a 150 on. So I am only losing 20 levels of gun.
So by twinking your implants (which are not affected), you can still easily get on in most cases, above level 50, a QL weapon twice your level. That is still a large amount of OE that can be done.
So most of this OE woes hit at the low levels when your skills are low. But you all know, that it is so easy to level between 1 and 50 because we are so OE'd, it is almost a joke. With implants, OE will not go away.
Negative. ^_^Originally posted by Drabin
Okay the poll is finished and up to date and I made the corrections for those of you who asked me to swap you to pro or con and/or to add you to the list if I missed you.
If anyone wants to keep tabs on this or add to it later on please feel free to do so.
I just wanted to give FC and CZ a chance to see past the outpoor of responses and get an idea of who feels what.
Take care and enjoy.
Very negative.
My 2 Guilders
Docs will have their ass aggroed of cos they heal and we won't be able to pull the aggro off of them anymore with the lesser dmg outputOriginally posted by Charrity
Doctors, wont be affected, they heal.
Then again if they as well tune down the NPC's HP and or DMG, things will be just fine with this patch
Yes no more slayer uberness, too bad. If they fix mobs as well, and make xp worthwhile on yellows, I'm happy. If it takes me ages now cos I can hunt yellows for the same xp as it is now => Dang I'll be old and senile before I get to 200
But that's what Fc wants I guess, to leech some more out of our bankaccounts ...
Hunt kill kill mission kill kill token token kill kil hunt mission whatever, tends to get boring for 200 lvls at the speed of killing yellows only ... If they were to make the total xp needed (as far as I can see exponential increment) per level linear as well as the xp per kill on a yellow (linear now as far as I can see) for your level, it would be okay, but if they don't ... ouch ... lvl till you're old and retired, IRL that is...
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Shizaja 108 Engi
Last edited by Abrikoosje; Mar 14th, 2002 at 00:29:18.
Missed me I'm a neg guy too I posted way back like page 40 or so
i'm not neutral, i'm negative
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"I do Not believe in these spooky actions at a distance"
Albert Einstein
FC,
Just make it simple. Get rid of skill wrangles and substitute that trader line of nanos with a new line of nanos called, "Beggars can't be Choosers". The new line gives the target or team a small turkey leg and mashed potatoes T.V dinner which inturn attracts 20 blood red rollerrats that attack them instantly for it. After the target or team dies a note can be found in their reclaim terminal that says, "Stop Overequipping yer Twink, ya dink!"
I was just wonder i have a trader and isnt this patch going to make him useless because people used trader for wrangles and with this patch arnt wrangles going to be basically useless? How are the mobs debuffs going to work If i use an MP which relies on his pet and i get debuff am i going to be left hanging. I under stand they will finish current combat but what if ur attacked by more than one? How are implants and ncus going to be affected?
You really suck at taking polls and reading I guess, because in my first post I said I was AGAINST the OE patch, then I made a SECOND POST saying I was STILL AGAINST IT.
BTW, your poll means nothing since its not official and that poll actually = like maybe 5% or less of actual AO players. Ao needs to do their own poll and you need to stop with yours because not only does it take up like 3 miles of a thread, but its constantly wrong and not needed. Like it was said SEVERAL times before, let FC do the poll if they intend to. This is their game and if they actually care about their customer base they will implement one. If not they will just say "screw you" to the customer base once again and just patch whatever the hell they want as per usual.
Freshman Malcom "Raysight" Age
Deep Winter Faction
Thats the hands down truth. I want to see the "casual" gamer 3 years down the road stuck at level 110-130 because they need to kill 3 trillion more yellows to get to 200 or close.Originally posted by Scumbug
Listen up Kiddies,
This is a leveling nerf disgusied as a balance issue.
Caps on equipment means character strength is based only on level.
Predictable character strength gives Funcom total control over
how fast each and every player levels. X hours = Y levels.
It's long been obvious that the original brilliant people behind AO
are no longer making the decisions. I believe they relinquished
control right back at release when the game was forced out too early.
The beancounters are now pulling the strings. These people view
onlineRPG customers as junkies, desperate for their next level,
and they will do anything to stretch that process out a few months more.
They don't care what's fun. They don't even play this game.
If you think MOBS will be changed in any dramatic way you're dreaming.
Just like they refused to lower their HP, or shorten highlevel missions,
or 'fix' long camptimes on quest and dungeon NPCs.
It's all about making everything take longer.
You 'casual' players who wanted this nerf so you could compete
with 'hardcore' players are in for a rude shock. You will find
yourselves trailing further and further behind anyone with
more freetime than yourself, and there will be nothing you can
do to catch up or compete. All this patch does is make the
monotonous practice of leveling take 4 times longer.
for newbies who dont understand: at just level 100+ you need
2,000,000XP to level and yellow mobs give 5,000ishXP.
The only way you can avoid having to solo 400yellows in a row
is by getting in a team and fighting reds. But reds will now
salughter everyone because you can't do anything to optmize
yourself; without overequiped armor you'll die in 3-4hits.
without overequiped weapons you wont make a dent in MOBS
with literally 20 times your HP. This isn't going to change.
They may scale back mobs enough so that everyone can now
survive highlevel greens/yellows, but not enough to compensate
for this massive reduction in player power vs exponentially
harder mobs.
Lots of people will argue with me now,
but I'm not interested in arguing it now.
Just wait, and hope I'm proven wrong.
Freshman Malcom "Raysight" Age
Deep Winter Faction
my char is negative to change
mazzuolatore lev 83 enf
kelnow lev 74 eng
koppowaza lev 43 ma
canemorto lev 9 trader
after one year this modify?
no no no no
I really don't think it's fair to say that OE wasn't exactly a good idea.. Someone had to think of a way to do it.. But I'm glad it's gonna be nerfed.
Work you fools! Don't be lazy !@#!@
-=Boco=-
NanoTech
Squad Commander
Legions of Ashes
Level 15 (RK1)
there probably won't be enough people left to justify 2 servers if they dont do something to appease both sides.Originally posted by Angel2000
NO
dont change the servers as in OE on rubika 2
atm rubi-ka 2 is a nice and small community.
DOnt mess the people who started there up, if people NEED to whine about the OE patch and cant live with it, either go away or ask for a NEW server
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